>driver license in Europoor: 2000euros and several months of ed

>in Burgerland: 50bucks and a week

Why is there such a big difference?

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Because driving is a de-facto right in America vs a privilege in most other countries.

I was in Turkey where I saw lines around corners of guys 25+ years old waiting hours to just get a chance to try for a Drivers license.

we get the Roundabouts DLC i hear that's not a thing in the US of A

Nope. We got them popping up all over.

Because Americans have engineered their cars and road network around requiring the least skill possible for the last 70 years. Actually I illegally drove for a bit there myself on vacation before even getting a license in Europe. Piss easy if you understand the core principles of how an autotragic gas pedal, brake pedal and steering wheel work, a chimpanzee could do it.

because roads in america are structured for ease-of-driving meanwhile roads in EU are just paved horse paths from 200 years ago.

There is a reason why there is a somewhat large difference in fatalities per kilometer/miles, especially when you consider that countries like Norway and Sweden offer generally more difficult/dangerous terrain in form of heavy winters, mountains, valleys, lower road quality and collisions with moose

>slovenija that high
what the fug

is russia not on that list because the person making it couldn't stop laughing?

>Germany and Sweden numbers from 2013

Well, expect them to be around Burgerland level by now.

No, it's because the table is sorted by fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers, and that figure is missing for most countries since it requires further statistics on driving habits on top of the mere death toll.

Those 2k+ and now add another 1k $ im about to pay the next two weeks for 2 really fucking idotic useless courses that I have to do within 3 years after getting the license. If I dont it your license will be nullified and you can start from the beginning.

Holy fucking shit I hate this stupid jewish country. No wonder people 30+ still live with their parents here

I was surprised to see Belgium and Japan up there

Brazil, sure - fucking huehuemonkeys with absolutely no infrastructure, safe cars or anything
South Korea - they all just want to die
Czech Republic - see South Korea
Spain - their traffic is fucking HORRIBLE

I sorted by fatalities per kilometer/miles, and that info isn't available for Russia so it isn't there.

Buuut the other numbers are, and it is as you expected

which country?

switzerland

Belgium is a shithole in general, going from France or Flanders to Wallonia is like going from Germany to the Czech Republic.

Japan sacrifices safety in order to maintain compact size. Their kei cars literally have cardboard thin doors.

Because in yurop they actually teach you how to drive

we're slowly starting to unlock it rn

Does it vary a lot from city to city? Here in poortugal I had to wait until I moved to Lisbon for college, in my home town it was close to 1k in lisbon it was around 250 euros

How the fuck is Finland higher than Denmark?

Because Americans take their freedom for granted.

>Finland
>empty
>lots of remote country roads through forests
>cold winters

>Denmark
>relatively dense population
>built up infrastructure
>mild weather

Also Finland has older cars on average

Its mostly the same everywhere

and lets also not forget; 93% of the white male population under the age of 24 pretending to be a rally star

Yep, friend broke the bumper on his dad's BMW yesterday when we were drifting on the parking lot of a gas station yesterday

t. Finland

How old is the car park of Finland on average? The Danish is around 10-12 years, because you get raped financially as a car owner, even after they lowered registration taxes.

I'm just surprised, because from what I've heard, Finns actually learn how to handle driving in adverse conditions. Danes just learn how to rythm-brake and do controlled slides. Over one 4-hour lesson.

We've recently unlocked the Roundabout DLC, considering there's a metric fuckton where I live.

Oddly enough, the traffic diamond DLC got bundled in with it. One of these things is being built near me.

It seems Denmark has the oldest car along with Finns. The average car age in Finland is 11,9 and EU average is 8,2.

eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/average-age-of-the-vehicle-fleet/average-age-of-the-vehicle-8

Average age of Danish cars is 8.92 years and Finnish cars 9.69

Denmarks is 8.5 according to the last survey in 2015, with Finland 12.7 years.

>traffic diamond
what is this fuckery

What the fuck does that accomplish?

Is it meant to be a traffic calming measure?

What the fuck, was the person who designed that a spastic?

>at night everyone is just gonna cut to the right and go down the diamond the wrong way

freedom
specifically more personal freedom, even to the determent of others.

its not better, just different

>200 years ago
try 2000

>a fucking bongland simulator
WHY

This. The mayor of the city I work at has an hardon for roundabouts, there's one in every single street intersection. Iirc current count is ~120 in a small

everyone here drives like fucking garbage so imagine

>comiefornia
>turn 18
>34$
>take test
>no school
>no theory test
A lot more shitty drivers here
But atleast I was able to tackle all the togues here when I was young and didn’t have bills to pay

Its impossible to live in murka without a car.

>pay 2000 euros for driver's license when you are 18
>drive your parent's car for a few months
>move out to school
>realistically own a car when you are 25+ after school
And cars are fuck expensive and even if you own a under 1000 euros shitbox you have to pay another 1000 euros for insurance, winter tires, etc.

You only need two sequences per intersection instead of four because now both left and right turners can just yield onto the main road.

Because North America Build its city's around cars and automotive transportation. Where Europe had to adapt its citys for basic roadways

Why.jpg
i dont know what the fuck that is, but it looks shit as fuck. you're literally driving on the wrong side of the road.

>be from the slovenian caliphate
>went to the highway only twice when doing my A2
>instructor told me that, if I'm asked by the commision guy, where i drove on the highway, to tell him about some long ass trip

Driving these is so fun to me for some reason, especially when you hit all greens.

The fatalities per 1bn km per year fucks us over a bit because we have a lot of cars that don't do many km per year.
Couple that with the drunk drivers and shitty roads and you end up looking bad.

Shit, I'm a euro and this is fucked up to me.

>one guy goes in the opposite lane
>everybody else follows suit

Because 50% fuck you tax on new cars. Then politicans wonder why people drive their 20 year old cars to the ground instead of buying new ones.

Oh and accessories are taxed 50% too so even Mercedes Benzes are bought with cloth seats and manual AC.

Car dealers demonize imported used German cars which are cheaper and have higher trim levels and no rust. Used car ads have huge SUOMIAUTO!!!-texts like it's a good thing that the car was originally imported to Finland, poverty spec cars which have been rusted in the road salt.

Hey, awesome. I bet it's all those people getting VW up and the like for their first "car" that's inflating those numbers. But nice to be wrong.

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numbers in germany are steadily decreasing. fag.

Listen up brainlets, these are actually good.

>cost a fraction of a full clover
>take up a fraction of the space of a clover
>are cheaper to make than a clover
>are proven to be safer
>have easy to follow lights and arrows
>only have to ever yield to one lane when merging, just like a normal on ramp

Picture a standard intersection, but with one way roads, and the normally right angle intersection squished.

I drive through one of these every day and even my 85 year old grandfather doesn't have a problem.

Side note: US has one of the highest rate of killed in road accidents per capita.

Someone posted this already with proper data, I'm going to run over myself now...

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They're not meant to replace clovers though, only regular traffic lights but with fewer sequences.

Is this from the Isle of Man?

>50bucks and a week
Sounds like when I got my AM license at age 15, went to 'lessons' for a week, slalomed through a set of cones (This was the first time I ever sat on a moped) and they sent me on my way.

Long story short: I almost got hit by a car on my way to school, when I swerved I almost hit a fucking tree. I was nowhere near ready for actual traffic.

So the DMV pumps out manslaughterers?

Finns go fast. Danes, like most swedes are cucked by dense traffic

Basically, but no one is ever dragged to court for it because realizing you actually have to pay attention on the road would unsettle everyone else in their accustomed comfort of drinking coffee and writing phone messages behind the wheel.

>Estonia full of aging crap
Seems correct

Danes cant go fast.
We literally have the worst laws when it comes to fast cars, you cant improve your cars horsepower above a fifth of stock, unless you wanna pay tens of thousands of kroner in """taxes"""
I nearly got in trouble because my NISSAN FUCKING PATROL went over the limit by 10hp.
S-socialism sure is great guys
W-we are saving the planet
Please kill us quickly

I paid overall 2500€. That is:
>600 € for mopeds (AM category)
>800 € for cars (B category) + 125 € for the emergency braking course
> 170 € tractors (F category)
>800€ for middleweight motorcycles (A2 category)

FUck this jewing.

wew lad
paid like 600 for B cat and 400 for A cat

Is that only the driving part or all other things included (medical check, first aid course, theory and tests)?

Only good thing is that I passed all of it on the first try.

those kinda things are great fun at 3am when the place is deserted
practice those flicks
I like the idea of European design and American size

Shit, a bridge is being rebuilt near me right now and all traffic is redirected over another bridge. So what previously went over 2 bridges now goes over one.

>connection from bridge to city is established over 2 roundabouts
>they are both 2 lane ones
>people can't into merging
>lots of T-bone accidents

That's everything excluding medical check (think under 20€ total) and first aid courses weren't required. This was years ago so maybe it's required nowadays, no idea.
I must say at the time I lived in the middle of nowhere where these things are more expensive. Just did a quick search and if I did it today I would have paid around 600 for both categories lol

We don't have those in Europe.

Oh, and remember, danebro. A turbo, even stock from factory, counts as the full legal hp increase available.

That's where?

Poortugal. Wages are shit so it evens out lol
Makes more sense to consider the average wage and price ratio

>600€ for AM
What the fuck?
I don't know how much it cost when I was 14 but it seemed really cheap.

Did you do the tractor test before practice was mandatory? I really regret not doing it then.

It was cheap before the introduction of AM/A1/A2/A. Before all that, it was called H. And you could get it at 14 years yeah.

I know a guy who paid 800€ for it.

Oh, and I did the tractor test 6 months after getting my car license. So the only practice for me was driving around some cones for two minutes.

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Holy shit. You can get a nice Tomos Alpino for that money.
My dad didn't even need to drive around cones. The group just had a few hours of lectures and had the exam at the end.

I'm really not looking forward to paying for the CE and A licenses I'm planning on doing in the next years

>Holy shit. You can get a nice Tomos Alpino for that money.
Or wait till A1/A2 and not be a retard like me. Hell, we as kids didnt't even know anything about motorcycles back then.

>My dad didn't even need to drive around cones
My dad has a full motorcycle license and truck driving license. Yet he never drove anything more serious than my 250 YBR or 70hp tractors.

I don't know whether people in Europe have become such retards that you have to tell them everything, or did the EU turn into leeches.

Base driving school cost - 400€
Medical check - 25€
First aid course - 25€
Slippery driving course - 40€
Night driving course - 40€
Exams and license itself - 92€
Final stage course (advanced slippery driving and eco-driving) (has to be done in 2 years after getting the license) - 100€

Total - 722€ (If you don't fail any exams nor take any extra lessons)

That's still lot considering Estonia's wages. I'm from a rather poor family and it's more than my parents' monthly income. It took them 9 months of saving and I payed a bit out of my own pocket as well.

>I don't know whether people in Europe have become such retards that you have to tell them everything, or did the EU turn into leeches.
A bit of both but more likely the latter

Are you from Milton Keynes?

hello. fellow estongian
For me it was over 1k because I failed the exams a lot

In burgerland, I paid ten dollars and it took me one day. I walked in and took the paper test, then the driving test in my car, and they printed out a license for me and I was good to go.

Dude what? Its like 300 euros, you study the traffic laws signs etc in your free time home or driving school pc that you don't have to attend. Do a 30 question exam and do 1 obligatory driving class with an instructor telling you what to do while on a public road. If you can drive without stalling and doing everything then you book an exam which you drive where an instructor tells you to go. For 15 minutes he looks if you respect the laws, use the car safely and that's it.

10.6 per 100,000 versus 5.4 per 100,000.
almost double the ausfags

KEK

you cunts are horrible drivers, everyone knows that though. this is nothing new.

>only 18% of you can drive manual
>you're ranked 32nd in the world for personnel freedom

the absolute state of america

KEK

>Am at 15, a1 at 16 and a2 at 18 master race

see
you rank 32nd for personnel freedoms sweetie. but keep believing your government when they tell you you're #1

Finland has more rural terrain and mountains. And far harsher winters.
Denmark is LITERALLY flat.
Its almost a mystery that Norway(bomb resistant snake roads) and Swizz(extreme mountains) even make it to the top tier of that list.

You say that as if terrain somehow accounts for the retardation of a country's citizens. Have you ever met a big-city Dane? Every time I talk to someone from Copenhagen, I regret that the Commies never gave us a nuclear love tap, just to keep things fresh.

>bongland

Not even close, Sao Joao da Madeira in Portugal. Though I did google for that, and it is an impressive amount as well.

>dad who wants to see his kid drive: 0€
>Books: maybe 30€
>test itself: 70€ or something

Next summer were going to that road in Romania that had on top gear. I'll have bought a miata by that point

No, but when you go deaths per billion kilometers
You get a statistical situation
Where people don't get to experience harsh winters inside Denmark, and uneven downhill terrain.
Nice terrain = you don't get accidents in bad terrain

>$50 and a week
No, not quite.

I maintained a 3.0 GPA in HS and took drivers training for free. One week of theory and 10 hours of behind the wheel time.
>Had a car before my license

I remember very little of my first shitbox
>Blacktop road
>Learner permit
>Though I was Earnhardt
>Drivin' fast
>But I didn't see the ditch
>Took out a mailbox
>Then a fence, then a barn
>The police came and called my father
>But I met the farmers daughter
>And when the judge asked me why I did it
>He threw the book at me
>When I told him 'cause the chicks dig it!

Eastern Europoor here, I started my driving course in like late July and I'm still not done (mostly because I failed my driving exam this Tuesday like a complete retard), fuck this shit. Not to mention that by now I've paid like 430 euros which is a lot for a poorfag like me. I fucking envy burgers.