Why German cars are so unreliable?

Why German cars are so unreliable?

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Because they like to over engineer stuffs.

>Design vehicles around a fuck load of over engineered electronics
>Weak point of your vehicles is electronic related

You can't invent this shit...

They invent overcomplicated solutions to non-existent problems that only serve to increase points of failure.

germans believe in planned obsolesce. they have too much invested in large capacity car factories. if they made reliable cars the economy would suffer.

so they simply have great marketing for a product which is not really better, but appears better enough to some to buy. this is called prestige.

>permanent drive to be on the bleeding edge with development which CAN mean overcomplicating things to achieve neat but relatively unnecessary improvements

>a country with strict as fuck mandatory inspections, meaning they're used to maintain their cars autistically while this is not common in burgerland and therefore their cars fail quicker abroad

>germans believe in planned obsolesce.
Who the fuck does not in the industry?
Seriously, name some

Honda

so that's why there are crunching and failing manual transmissions in the civics since at least a decade and they do jackshit about it even though people complain like mad about it for YEARS.

Skimping on materials to cut costs and more mandatory safety, MUH POLAR BEARS environmental equipment that just introduce more failure points and other consumer driven shit like displays everywhere. The meme that Japan makes reliable cars is mostly dead at this point.

>overengineered
You probably don't know what overengineering means.
Ofc it doesn't mean making something good and then fix its design flaws and end up with a turd product.
In order to iverengineer something, it means that you made something useful and reliable and then you proceed on bettering it.
What the Krauts have been doing is drop a tone(metric) of steel on 4 wheels, then a tone of plastic/wires/leds/e.t.c. and market it as the next best thing after tiger II.
They never made cars using lean production and design.
Their cars were expensive due to the shitty production and overloaded features.
They cannot make cars that need just spark plugs and oil change. They don't know how to keep their shit last for decades.

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>ameriturds underengineer their products
>still unreliable and inferior to german ones

makes you think

But they know how to make little engines produce a more than modest amount of power without guzzling a fuckton of gas.

Americans never felt the need to make their cars better because we have had the privilege of extremely cheap fuel for a long time.

That’s because American philosophy is quantity over quality

That's probably the most retarded thing I've read this weekend

>comparing a $80k car to a car that costs over $250k
>acting like it is an achievement the more expensive car is better and faster

You must have an extra chromosome or teo floating around you retarded faggot

But it's true. All american cars were getting bigger in the 60s while the european cars were getting smaller. Americans wanted huge gas guzzling V8s that were capable of producing lots of power in an age where small displacement motors could not artificially create similar amounts of power with turbochargers and variable timing. The only way to make power was to have more displacement and the gas economy in the states allowed this lifestyle. If you look at the sudden increase in imports in the states, it directly correlates to the gas crisis of the mid 70s and around the same time, the introduction of mechanical fuel injection, variable cams, and turbochargers. American car manufactures didn't reciprocate to the increasingly expensive gas prices because their market was still there but instead more for the upper middle class instead of the general middle class and up. This is why japanese and german cars did so well in the states and now they're more common than american cars in america.

tldr: yurop would have landbarges if their gas was dirt cheap too

T. Tyrone who has done zero maintenence to his 20 year old 5 series

You are right but how does that have anything to do with American's never feeling to make things better? There were plenty of race cars produced by American manufacturers to show off their craftsmanship. You can't throw a blanket statement about performance with no statistics and blame it on some bullshit american privilege. I would also say European imports were never cheap only Japanese ones were.

Toyota and american companies. Americans believe in unplanned obsolescence.

Well sure american performace vehichles that are privately used for racing and shit were up to date, but the american domestic market has always lagged behind in auto Innovation. Hell, we couldn't make cars that could compete in europe up until 10 years ago.

That being said, I think Ford is really trying to become a global brand right now and they're really getting their shit together.


Also
>German cars
>Expensive
Bugs and Busses sold like hotcakes over here.

thats because Americans prefer supercharging. NA corvettes get reasonable fuel efficiency and I wish that european went back to NA because right now the only make turbo engine that redline at 6k and need to throw gas in the exhaust to not sound like shit.

this to be honest

>Americans believe in unplanned obsolescence.
Because they break if planned or not?

Yes

They forgot their history lessons when inferior and poorly made machine can beat them while being more reliable.

This is so bullshit. Automakers cut costs by making not using the best materials possible. There's nothing inherently wrong with that because people want to buy new cars every several years. In a universe where people needed to keep the same car for 15+ years, cars would be more expensive and more durable.

Overengineering means to design a set of features for a great number of use cases, or at a greater strength/precision required. If your car can make waffles or is designed to withstand being hit by a semi, it is overengineered.

BMW doesn't need to make a reliable car. People buy BMWs because they want to have features that make them stand out, even if they're just swallowing marketing hype.

>all those (You)s

like shooting fish in a barrel

Ford /is/ a global brand right now. Meanwhile GM is trying to manage without government handouts.

you have a readout in the car that tells you the oil level

but the 250k Porsche beats every other 1M+ „hypercar“ which is even more impressive

Whats the bargain here now bitch?

>Reading comprehension
I was agreeing with you idiot

does the readout also show you a picture of the oil too?

is the readout in the engine bay as well, so you can check it where it actually makes sense?

stop defending bad engineering practices

They are reliable. The problem is the owner. Many don't follow the maintenance schedule, use the proper parts, fluids, etc. and expect everything to be fine.