>Brony I don't pay attention to shows for little girls so I have no idea what you're talking about
Jace Baker
Ixtab is sex.
Andrew Thompson
>Infinite >Sonic OC Here youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98 Just to know that the edge has finally returned to Sonic, and unlike certains fans, I am happy and cannot wait for it
Jose Gomez
"You offer a tribiute by sending a monster that is already on your field to the graveyard" >"on YOUR field"
Luke Young
Vendreads have all their current cards on YGOpro now
Super secret tec
Gabriel Reed
The Living Tombstone is a open pony enthusiast, you'd know it by only glancing at his channel
delet
>being a sonic fan i know we are typing on a yugioh thread but cmon have some standards
What's that one monster that returns to the hand after being tributed for a monster?
Wyatt Edwards
Yes, except there are plenty of cards that special summon to the opponent's side of the field, or let you tribute your opponent's monsters, such as Kaiju. In those cards, they have text that specifies exactly where or what you're supposed to tribute is, ie tribute your opponent's monster, or special summon to your opponent's side of the field.
Decode Talker also has such a clause, stating you can tribute a monster its link markers point to. The card text supersedes the ruling, just like with Kaiju.
Thomas Richardson
Are we still ignoring the fact that rulings have already been made in the OCG regarding this?
Gavin Myers
The OCG rulings are wrong.
Isaac Ramirez
Bet you missed the nip text.
>Decode Talker also has such a clause Nope. "a monster its link markers point to" isn't a clause that allows you to tribute opponent's monster.
Adrian Kelly
Except it has an arrow that points up. Saying that it doesn't count is like saying you can't tribute an opponent's monster to summon a Kaiju.
Anthony Richardson
Kaiju specifically said opponent's monster. Not "monster in the field".
And Decode Talker specifically says anything it points to. What's your point?
Logan Ross
Fantastic argument.
Jaxson Powell
Yep. No clause specifying opponent's monster.
Cooper Davis
The definition of tribute, without anything else, is that you tribute "your own monsters that are already on the field". Anything else needs extra clarification, like Kaijus. So Decode Talker can't tribute the opponents monster
It's a basic mechanic you retard. It's like chaining maxx "c" on pendulum summon, you can't do that either since it's a game mechanic and doesn't start a chain
Jonathan Gutierrez
It does, though. It specifies any monster it points to.
If Decode Talker only had arrows pointing up, its text would still read exactly the same.
It has extra clarification. It clarifies "anything this card points to".
Thomas Price
Icarus Attack's winged beast clause is equivalent to Decode's this card points to clause.
Would you let your opp tribute your ruri for their icarus attack, shun?
Blake Nguyen
Where?
Jacob Butler
...
William Bennett
Icarus Attack doesn't have link markers and text that says you can tribute anything it points to.
Michael Bailey
page 5 of the link in my post
Hudson Foster
That's page 5.
Jacob Stewart
Still doesn't say MY monster.
Levi Baker
By that logic I could tribute my opponents tribute summoned monster for summoning Ether / Erebus
>You can Tribute Summon this card by Tributing 1 Tribute Summoned Monster.
>by sending a monster YOU HAVE on the field
Carson Roberts
been trying to get back into the game since about a week ago and built this deck since i always loved volcanics, however i'm very terrible scrub and sorta don't know what i'm doing half the time, especially when it comes to deckbuilding what should i change or remove to make this work? i've done about 10 duels on percy with it but every single time without fail i either draw two or more shells or two or more scattershots, clogging my hand
yeah i know volcanics are shit now but still
Nicholas Hughes
Then can someone post the damn link so this retarded argument can end already?
Brandon Brown
That's not enough classification. It must specifically says "opponent"
Kayden Diaz
>By that logic Nope! Because there's nothing in the text you quoted that would suggest you could do such a thing.
The reason it's different for Decode Talker is because it has a Link Marker that specifically points to the opponent's side of the field. There aren't different kinds of Link Markers, and certain Link Markers don't arbitrarily not count.
To suggest otherwise is to just pretend one of Decode's Talker's Link Markers simply doesn't exist for no explainable or justifiable reason.
Wyatt Jones
It does, it suggest that I can tribute a tribute summoned monster. It doesn't say it has to be mine.
Henry Parker
According to page five of the rulebook, you can only tribute monsters you control. This is a defined game mechanic.
For cards like Kaiju, Lava Golem, Decode Talker, etc, they specifically have a clause that specifies you can tribute something you otherwise wouldn't be able to according to the game mechanics. There needs to be an explicit definition.
Ether unfortunately doesn't have that explicit definition.
It exists so that it would be a Link 3, so that it can gain 500 Attack if your opponent summons a monster there, and so that your opponent can summon from the ED there.
Jaxson Sullivan
But Decode Talker has a clause that explicitly says you can tribute an opponent's monster, unlike Ether.
Tyler Morales
>Decode Talker has a clause that explicitly says you can tribute an opponent's monster Nah. Point me where it says "opponent".
Colton Cooper
But its strong because while the opponent CAN use the extra ED slot, its vunerable to DTs ability man.
Evan Smith
Your "arguments" are getting stale m8 >he spends his weekend pretending to be retarded in a children card game forum
Jack Perry
Its """"clause"""" is as non-specific as Icarus Attack. If it said "any monster thus card points to, including your opponent's", or even just "any monster", you'd have something resembling an argument.
Camden Anderson
The Link Arrow pointing up and the fact that there's no text in the effect to suggest that specific particular Link Marker arbitrarily doesn't count as a Link Marker.
Carter Williams
All I can hear is that it's not explicit enough. So no, you can't.
Adam Smith
Topologic Bomber Dragon's effect doesn't specify an opponent's monster. Guess that one doesn't count either, huh?
Brayden Edwards
So how good are the Supreme King Dragons in Code of the Duelist? Even from a casual standpoint? Which one is the best? Are any better than their counterparts?
Gabriel Fisher
There's also no text that arbitrarily decides the established gameplay definition of Tributing, only allowing you to use monsters you control unless it specifically says opponent's, doesn't apply.
Bentley King
Destroy isn't dictated by game mechanic to only allow monster you control.
Isaac Ross
>summon Cannon Soldier >tribute all my opponents monsters and inflict 500 damage for each
Top secret tek nobody knows you can do it!!!
Cameron Green
What do you guys think of the ddd armageddons? Are they viable pre link?
Nolan Richardson
Monster Reborn also doesn't specify your field. Guess that one doesn't count either, huh?
Jason Jones
Just to let you guys know, the japanese version of decode talker specifically says "you control".
"このカードのリンク先の自分のモンスター1体をリリースして発動できる。"
Zachary Gomez
Wrong part of the effect. >If another monster is Special Summoned to a zone a Link Monster points to, while this monster is on the field: I can't Summon to my opponent's side of the field and it doesn't specify Opponent's, so just like Decode Talker, I guess its effect doesn't count!
Jaxson Kelly
they're all pretty good, though i'm not sure which one is best. they work best in pendululm magicians (except odd eyes fuck him)
Brody Morgan
Fucking Tewart.
Jack Wright
Unusable by some definitions under MR4. Overlords have some janky decklists but they're notwhere near good.
If you're playing imaginary MR3, they're kind of insane, just like Pendulum Magicians.
Henry Taylor
Mate, do you even know the difference between activation condition and cost?
Kayden Mitchell
Of course it does, because otherwise would be fucking retarded.
Caleb Lopez
>effect >post text before : Opinion discarded.
Parker Wright
Of course it does, because if it didn't specify that, you'd be able to tribute your opponent's monsters.
Nathan Smith
I think PSG is mediocre and degenerate but the ending is cute and the song is good. I could have posted the song from another source and most people listening would make no link whatsoever to anime
why are you so eager to start drama
Gavin Long
Is he worse than normal OEPD? With my friends, we don't care about banlists or anything. We just don't play broken decks like PePe against each other unless the other person is using a broken deck.
Juan Lewis
Reminder that KoA changed how all Traps work in the grave instead of fixing the text on Palezoics to be optional.
Jaxson Wilson
>Amorphage
Daniel Wood
explain
Juan Fisher
What?
Jaxon Stewart
Nah, that guy just said "Paleo works that way" without explaining anything after he got told that activating a trap card's effect isn't always optional,
Joseph Brooks
how long until konami has to errata this shit because people are stupid?
a bunch of players don't even bother reading the cards, now even if they read they will try to tribute the opponent monster
Brayden Bennett
Okay, here's the OCG Rulings page for Decode Talker: db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=4&cid=13036 >『その発動を無効にし破壊する』モンスター効果を発動する際に、コストとして、このカードのリンクマーカーが指し示す先に存在する自分のモンスター1体をリリースします。(「デコード・トーカー」自身がエクストラモンスターゾーンに存在し、そのリンクマーカーが指し示す相手のメインモンスターゾーンにモンスターが存在していたとしても、その相手モンスターをコストとしてリリースする事はできません。)
That says you cannot tribute an opponent's monster to activate its effect. The end.
Christian Johnson
b-but we must shorten the text!
Gabriel Morgan
After players kept asking if Paleozoic grave effects were mandatory, KoA said that all Trap effects in the grave are automatically optional, rather than fix the only instance of them being worded to be mandatory.
Noah Turner
OCG =/= TCG
Evan Howard
>it's ocg so it doesn't matter, show me the tcg rullings >links are out and KoA didn't posted them
first one will be the answer of tcg players
Jaxon Bennett
muh rampart blaster
Tyler Jones
>at worlds tcg players are allowed to tribute the opponents monsters, ocg they arent