Give me a quick rundown on the foxbody

Is that you NEWFAGAY? You forgot your trip again.

I don't disagree but fairmonts are rare now me virtually impossible to find parts for a maverick

Needs a LS to be viable.

Been detripped for a week fucktard.

>>DONTbuy a 4 cylinder to swap a v8 into. because you have to swap everything and cheaper to buy a car with a v8 already in it.

usually repowered with chevy LS and they are slower than the ford v8 powered ones...

usually by now full of rust unless old lady owner (unlikely) or unwanted model (mercury capri, fairmont)

still not as unloved as the 2nd gen mustangs and parts are starting to become availible through mustang restorers.

ASC maclaren hardest on to find. and worth good money when you do. the foxbody was the first mustang to get the saleen treatment

v8 is 302 windsor.(outside the usa) everything is availible for them including up to 363 ci strokers (aftermarket block) superchargers you name it: if you can google it, its availible for the engine. the bigger brother 351 isnt a bolt in fit as the 302 wider but the cylinder heads interchange.

its may not be the best ford but its not the worst
>>that was the taurus: you must never buy one.

>tampa

pls, we really don't need ANOTHER mustang at car meets here WE HAVE ENOUGH

>fucktard
Thanks, Merry Christmas to you, too

You monster

youtube.com/watch?v=Uf1ShwOousI
Eat shit

They were cool and good when they were cheap but now they're all meme taxes and beat to shit muscle cars that eat timing chains.

caranddriver.com/features/1983-ford-mustang-gt-we-drive-an-original-10best-cars-winner-feature

>0.76g
>7 second 0-60
>unnerving to drive hard
>horrible grip
>wet noodle chassis

It’s a shit car

cheap fun.

>Had 1989 Foxbody
>White
>Junkyard find, bent frame
>Had big ass turbo in it
>Just messed with the wiring, got it to start
>Replaced spark plugs, changed oil, etc
>Drove it softly for a short while
>Get to drinking a bit, decide to cruise
>Start going 160mph, stop looking at speedometer after that
>Engine lit on fire
>Put it out with dip spit
>Adrealine rushing
>Walk home, grab truck, pull it back home

Traded it for an excellent truck and sold my old truck. Whatever.

>using 1983 as an example
What a fucking douche.
>1993 cobra.
>5.6 seconds 0-60
>0.86g
All with factory 1993 tires.
And pretty much everyone that's replaced their intake is making more power than that car.

That's Happy Holidays to you.

>Has to cherry pick the best Foxbody they made

There is nothing impressive about those numbers even in 1993.

>nothing impressive.
Your are a colossal idiot.
>1993 BMW 325i- 0-60 in 8.3 seconds.
Actually can't find a BMW under 6 seconds until after 2000.

zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/bmw-0-60-mph-times/

>1993 camaro z28- 0-60 in 5.5 seconds
>1993 Honda accord lx- 0-60 in 10 seconds
>2015 Subaru impress wrx- 0-60 in 5.1 seconds
Just a random assortment.
Lurk more before you post again, bus rider.

>compares a Foxbody to a family sedan
>Still loses

Wow the Cobra is garbage.

You're dripping with butthurt.
The fox was the most HP per dollar.
It took most manufacturers 30 years to catch up to it.
Go ahead and post 0-60 times for some late 80's,early 90's cars.
I'll wait.

Cheap fun with abundant parts. And the Mustang isn't the only one.

It's slow but can be made fast-ish relatively inexpensively if you can turn a wrench. Start with a V8, don't try to swap a v6 or i4.

>muh 0-60
>has to cherry pick metrics to defend the garbage
>slower than like every big Japanese sports car of the time despite being built purely for straight line speed
>handling is so awful even the fanboys refuse to even consider bringing it up

Foxbodies are ultra shit.

And why you making up performance figures anyway? Look at what's on Ford's own website for a 1993 Cobra.

0-60 mph: 5.9 seconds (Road & Track)
60-0 mph braking: 140 feet (Road & Track)
1/4-mile @ MPH: 14.5 seconds @ 98 mph (Road & Track)

I think the only reason people like Mustangs are that they're too poor for a Camaro.

Cobra MSRP : $18,505
Camaro MSRP: $16,779

Wowsers nvm, paying more for a slower, worse handling, and uglier car.

They're cool cars. Not everything has to be about performance. I guarantee more than half of the posters in this thread have never even been on a track or drag strip.

(I haven't either)

I've been on a drag strip twice and if you wanna count karts then I've been on a few tracks.

I will always stand by my opinion that they're shit unless you dump thousands of dollars into them. Even then I wouldn't want one unless it was a 4-eye.

get some subframe connectors and 3.73s you can't not have fun. 86 was last year for 4 eye and first year for fuel injected. A lot of header swaps go through the steering column and the area right below the rear seats will have no metal. But you will slay made poon.

Even in domestics at the time that isn't true, the turbo Daytonas had it beat in price to performance.

You have to understand how badly the 5.0 was aging and the fact they Ford wanted to push the probe.

The Fox Body is the pinnacle of American engineering during the Malaise Era. The 5.0 produced a whopping 140HP, which had unmatched specific output of all domestic engines until the arrival of the GM LS1 in 1997.

>a whopping 140HP
dark times indeed

Absolutely sexy

>dont swap a i4 to v8

Holy fuck l did it in a weekend. Do your research.

>usually repowered with chevy LS and they are slower than the ford v8 powered ones...

because a higher horsepower motor that weighs less makes the car slower than a lower horsepower boat anchor.

They're pretty safe cars in a crash

>1987 dodge Daytona 2.2L turbo- 0-60 in 8.2 seconds
>1993 dodge daytona IROC R/T- 0-60 in 6.2
seconds
How does it feel to have your argument BTFO?

Post times of Japanese cars of that era.
>handling so awful
False statistics from bus riders like yourself.
Mustangs do very well on track, but you have no knowledge of the world other than initial D so you missed it.
Pic related.

>Posts a heavily modified Mustang about to get lapped by nearly stock Camaros

Lol

>too poor for camaro
>mustang is more expensive
Nice mental gymnastics chevycuck.

>Mustang fanboy is actually incredibly stupid

Lol no surprise there.

>heavily modified
You might want to educate yourself on the class rules, dipshit. ALL the vehicles are virtually stock.
>about to be lapped
Damn you're pathetic. You must have a very sad life.

I posted fact after fact, you've only posted cringeworthy butthurt.

>Gets all his info from random 0-60 site instead of actual reputable sources
>Doesn't even know rules for what he posts
>Likes Mustangs

Lol

2.3 turbo lima swap is infinitely easier

Non 4-eyed foxbodies look better than the later models.

this guy gets it. just make sure you have a mustang with a TFI ignition 4 cylnder from the 80's

This, it's a pretty extensive amount of work and not worth it at all since you can get a original 5.0 car for a good price.

...

nasaproracing.com/rules/camaro_mustang_challenge_rules.pdf

Spec class racing, dumbass.
Educate yourself before you post again.

And go ahead and prove the 0-60 times I posted are incorrect.

I still haven't seen anybody post times from that era of other cars....

Wow a Supra is a whole second quicker and can actually turn and stop.

1993 Cobra

Performance
0-60 mph: 5.9 seconds (Road & Track)
60-0 mph braking: 140 feet (Road & Track)
1/4-mile @ MPH: 14.5 seconds @ 98 mph (Road & Track)

>0-to-60 sprints in 5.6 seconds.

It really is slower than a family sedan.

And yeah if you read those rules you learn modifications are allowed, the Foxbody is allowed more than F-Bodies too. Not thati t matters cuz the only SN-95s and F-bodies are worth a shit in the series.

>inb4 muh price

F-bodies were cheaper than the Cobra but better in every way. That's right the normal Fox GT was so shit they had to use a Cobra for comparison and it still lacked.

Got it mixed up, anything past 1986 for foxes look like shit. There's your rundown.

Meanwhile the 3.5 M30 was making ~180 in Germany

Christ the 80's were such a shit time for American cars.

It did get bumped up to 225 after like 1987, but the notion was the V8 was dying so little development went into new ones and the old ones had to be choked to death to meet emissions.

>1993 Toyota supra turbo msrp- $39,900
>1993 ford cobra msrp- $18,980
Your argument is BTFO again.
"Modifications" that are allowed are trivial.
Like removing interior pieces.
Everything is spec'd to factory engines and suspensions.
If you don't understand the difference, you're an idiot.
And you have to post a $50,000+ BMW to get comparable 0-60 times, pathetic.

Lol called it

>DIS FAWXBODY IS UNBEATABLE BOY
>It's a slow piece of shit
>YEAH BUT I CAN AFFORD THAT ON MUH LOW BUDGET SO ITS GUD

lol fucking Mustang fans

Retard still doesn't know the rules either, I'm about done watching this thread I feel bad for picking on someone with double digit iq.

it was 190

Its far from unbeatable, but nothing in its class can compare. Thus why it became a standard.
Every argument ITT trying to prove otherwise has been disproven.
As for the NASA rules, engine and suspension are to be stock configurations, hell- they only allow a 3 year+/- retrofit of factory available options. EFI systems, carbs, cams, intakes are only allowed from a "factory" list of approved part numbers.
You obviously don't understand factory spec-class racing.

All you can do is post non sequiturs ad nauseum.
Go ahead and post a legitimate argument, for once.

>It's the retarded user who ignores everything but types paragraphs despite his not ability to read

Once again an empty post. Is that all you can do?
Its like talking to a doorknob.

>Its like talking to a doorknob.

Tell me about it, been what I've had to put up with this entire thread. Only difference is I think a door knob is better reader and doesn't ignore everything.

WTF are you talking about E34 M5s and e36 M3s would consistently hit 60mph in under 6 seconds. With an ECU tune you could even make an E28 M5 or an M1 do it...

The dude is a fanboy, it's best to not even bother. If you confront him with facts that contradict his beliefs he'll ignore them or say they don't count.

oh ok

Cool but slow and the sellers are asking boomer prices for them now.

1993 M3 BASE msrp price- $35,800
1993 M5 BASE msrp price- $60,700
You might as well argue that an aventador is faster than a civic.
You are pathetic. You have zero argument.
Post late 80's/early 90's cars with an msrp around $20k.

>posting vehicles that cost 2x-3x more.
>"but these were almost as fast!!"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Those M cars might be more expensive, but at least they won't kill you when you try to use the steering wheel at speed

>these vehicles were faster
FTFY

also he said you can't find a bmw before 2000 that would hit 60 in under 6 seconds and that is completely unequivocally wrong

Good base for a "build" but you have to spend a lot to make it handle well and even then it will be blown out by a S197 with basic mods. Very hard to find in decent shape.

Then post 'em.
I haven't found one.

Not a real ponycar.

Found a 1993 Foxbody that's V8 and manual for $2,600. Only problem is it's a rebuild. Should I still go for it?

It's a 25 year old car.
Its difficult to find one in factory, low miles condition. And if you did, they're way overpriced anyways.

Less than 3,000 pounds on average.
V8
2+2
How exactly does it not qualify for pony class?

M5. That took like 3 seconds of googling and I don't even know shit about bmws.

Only the special snowflake M5 is under 6 seconds.
>1993 M5 sedan- $60,000+, 6.2 seconds 0-60
>1993 M5 Bavarian Professional Touring model- $94,100, 5.3 seconds 0-60
>1993 Mustang Cobra- $18,980, 5.6 seconds 0-60
Hahahahahahahaha
Holy shit
Hahahahahaahahahahahahaha
You had to find a nearly $100,000 car to compete with a sub $20,000 domestic.
That is beyond pathetic.
Go ahead, post again- this is fucking hilarious. Its like the gift that keeps on giving. You just proved how badass the mustang is, thanks.

>HURR U CANT POST ONE
>NO NOT THAT ONE IM STILL RIGHT
You're a fucking retard

Wow, this dude is still damage controlling over his favorite sports car being slower than a family sedan.

>Posts a $100,000 special snowflake model that sold less than 5,000 units.
>SEE, LOOK- ITS FASTER!!!
Jesus you are a sad, sad person. Having to dig that hard to beat a $19k car that was marketed to secretary's and little old lady's.
Just a reminder, 1990 was the first year that a base mustang with a V8 broke the $10,000 price tag.
LX mustang, 5.0, power everything, 5speed, dual exhaust and a limited slip differential for under $10k.
And the only thing you can post to compete is cars that were 5x-10x the cost?!

Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

Counting fucking go karts....Pathetic

Not as pathetic as being slower and having a sense of superiority lol. Bet you drive a Mustang.

Since when is 5k boomer prices?

>>guys I’ve ridden in a go cart before I’ve totally been to a track

>guys I rode the bus once I'm totally a racecar driver

Mustang fanboy detected.

Opinions on F-Body camaro z28?

Fun car
Acceptable in factory trim.
Excellent aftermarket support.
Any shortcomings are easily updated with the help of your UPS driver.
Like most domestics, watch for rust.
Avoid purchasing one with low oil pressure unless you are ready to drop in a crate motor.

A ponycar isn't supposed to look like a regular compact or whatever. A ponycar doesn't blend in. It's supposed to spit in the face of conventional design. It should defy things like utilitarianism or aerodynamics. It should have jagged, powerful edges that scream out "LOOK AT ME, YOU COMMUNIST FUCKS, HERE I AM!" A foxbody isn't a Mustang. It's a Tempo with a V8. It's no ponycar. It's just a simple sports car, trying to make you believe that it's part of a legacy and not just a compact that goes fast.

Ponycars are sports cars dipshit. Just because the Foxbody looks like an Escort doesn't make it not one.

Mustang started like this then got fat and ugly in the late 60s-early 70s.

Whoops

Let me guess, you're like 19?
Most popular cars in pony class sanctioned races
>pinto
>Vega
>mustang II
Protip:
Use a pinto because
>#1- factory had a 2 barrel holley (one primary barrel, one secondary barrel) on 2.0&2.3 engines.
>#2- you can remove more sheet metal from a pinto than a Vega and still have a solid chassis.

Pony class was always about having a fast shbitbox. You found a cute little car and either shoehorned in a massive engine, or stripped it down to less than a ton (or both).
Shelby
Yenco
Saleen

The first Mustang looked like a more stylish regular compact of the time as well, though. Your entire argument is built off of a bad premise.

Mustang was built on the falcon chassis.
Some fresh sheet metal and they sold a million in 18 months.
Pic very related.

Same car
From grandmas grocery getter to pussy magnet just with a splash of paint and set of wheels.