>Complains about brands dying >Has never bought a new car in their life What did he mean by this? The people who seem to complain about new cars and some brands going away or changing seem to be the same people who will never buy a new car even if they like it, what gives?
accept the cards you chose.
Eli Thompson
>he doesn't wait for the deprecation
80k new vs 15.8k used, wonder what's the more sensible option? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Adrian Butler
>buying cars you can't afford General rule of thumb is if you can't afford to buy a car new you can't afford to maintain a 2nd hand one.
Christian Ward
I bought a 2010 Accord coupe for $8000 USD with 50k miles. The newest model is nearly the same, and costs about $24000.
I'm not retarded enough to pay 3x the price for 50k miles. I've already put 50k miles on it, if I bought it new I would have effectively devalued the car $12000 in a single year, more than what I paid for the used one.
Jaxon Nguyen
It's more sensible to make the money so you can afford a 80k new car.
Ryan Hughes
>has a shit job >has to leach off some business mans sloppy 2nds kek
Liam Bailey
A smart and wealthy person would never buy a money pit like that. Car's don't loose 75% of their value because they're good.
Landon Turner
If brands would cater to our demographic we would buy them.
Oliver Jones
>Buy new car >Expensive as fuck, depreciates as you drive it off the lot >Pathetic warranties >Can't do any maintennance with voiding shitty warranty >DIY maintennance is made prohibitively difficult through proprietary parts and excessively computerised controls >Can't see shit thanks to pigfat pillars due to safety requirements
Someone should make a car that uses common parts, minimal electronic bullshit, nice big spaces for DIY maintennance and offer a decent warranty.
Kayden Taylor
They look like shit?
Justin Howard
perceived resale value also factors into a lot of people's new car purchases
Nathan Green
>car payments >break-in periods >forced into boring mods by warranties >depreciation >recalls
I will take my $5k shitboxes tyvm
Mason Turner
Not when your demographic has like $5,000 to spend on a car.
Luke Walker
Is there a small hybrid 4cyl coupe with a targa top that makes 200hp with 40mpg on regular octane available from a reliable Japanese brand that isn't $30k?
No? Don't give a shit at all. I don't want a SUV, or a pigfat gutless shitbox, which is all that's available.
Jason Johnson
>Young people can barely afford to make ends meet, let alone save for a house they will never be able to afford >Why won't you spend 50k dollars on a shiny car?!?!?!?!
Car manufacturers need to start producing cheaper cars or they are fucked when boomers start to die. Almost no one in my generation will ever buy a new car.
Connor Davis
People buy new cars so they don't have to worry about or do any maintenance... Even a shitty manufacturer can make a reliable car for the first 2-4 years. You take it in every few months for an oil change and that's it.
$5k is a lease on a new shitbox. You probably spend more than a monthly lease payment on Taco Bell and video games.
>coupe >tagra >hybrid
Are you trying to be an attention whore or a jew? Pick one.
Aaron Collins
I could relatively easily spend $25,000 on a car. That's not too hard of a price point to hit considering what we want out of a car. Hell fucking over9k gaylude bought an $80,000 alfa 4c. Which is a car I'd heavily consider if it fucking had a manual. My current cars value around $70,000 so I could sell a couple and buy a 4c if they were worth it, but they're not.
Zachary Peterson
Manual is outdated garbage bruh
Logan Green
If I'm buying a $30k car it's going to be both a toy and a DD.
$30k is simply too much for something that's "just a tool" or "just a toy". It has to fit both roles if I'm going to buy it.
Juan Butler
If you believe that then why are you complaining that my demographic won't buy new cars, when that's one of the main reasons we won't.
Isaiah Reed
Your demographic doesn't deserve to have a new car when you're so backwards in your ways.
Hunter Bailey
Prices have not really changed uleh. if anything they have actually got better. A base model VB commodore cost about $9,800 in 1980, that is about $40k in 2017, about what an SS commodore cost.
James Edwards
The only people that actually care about driving the latest shiny new shit are self absorbed boomers who reverse mortgage their childrens inheritance to afford that shit. No one else cares about whether the car is new or a few years old.
Levi Gray
new cars look fucking ugly and complicated and kind of gay with the interior
Aiden Wilson
Whole lotta poor people in this thread
Kevin Powell
No dude remember they all make six figures and save for a house like they claim in the other threads
Wyatt Torres
Even if they don't make 6 figures, who would blow 20k+ on a fucking car when a house is way more important?
Nicholas Long
Whatever helps you deal with your existence.
Austin Rivera
for reference VB sle 5 litre v8 was about 15k or 65k in todays money
Robert Clark
>VB that's a vh
Jackson King
>if anything they have actually got better.
Depends bruh.
A 1987 Z28 was $15,208 which is $32,507.30 today. A new 1SS is $37,000.
Elijah Phillips
Everyone who is sane. Wtf do you want to do with a house and half a million in debt in your 20s?
Noah Carter
touche, point still stands though. cars are cheaper than they were for baby boomers, in other words baby boomers actually made it so things are cheaper for us than they were for them and everyone still complains about it and now they blame baby boomers for it. >tldnr baby boomers made the world better and cars cheaper
Jacob Butler
Not being vain enough to give a shit about whether or not I drive the latest shiny shit is actually great. Try it sometime.
Nolan Garcia
lol I sold my car and don't give a shit about much of anything.
My point still stands, whatever helps you deal with your existence.
Josiah Allen
You get a hell of a lot more car for your money with the 1SS, should probably take that into consideration.
Luis James
Subtle
Hunter James
Old cars are just better, mate
Easton Jenkins
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Tyler Williams
I could post pictures of new cars wrapped around shit too, what's your point?
John Green
Is that two cars or the ute split in half?
Bentley Young
two cars yes
Gabriel Cooper
biggest load of bollocks I have ever read
Jackson Cox
Thank you OP.
>everyone calls the people who buy new performance cars stupid because muh depreciation, muh get it used >very few people buy new performance cars >everyone then wonders why manufacturers are waiting longer and longer to refresh their performance models, and then killing off those models in favor of crossovers
It's almost as if attitudes like yours have made performance cars unprofitable. Money speaks the loudest, and you're pretty much screaming for the death of sport cars
May your future be riddled with CVTs, 0 visibility, 1.2 liter turbos, and 3 ton crossovers. You're getting exactly what you've asked for
Gavin Reed
Be that guy that buys a car for 5k then complains about having to spend 1k+ on it every few months then.
Levi Gutierrez
Because your typical car enthusiast is poor as shit and can barely afford a $3k Civic Notice how everyone here frames buying a new car as a terrible thing?
Jeremiah Murphy
>new accord is nearly the same lol no it isn't
Connor Cook
What sort of car are you talking about? Because I drive a cheap, used car and I barely spend a $1000 on maintenance a year.
Jackson Sullivan
How many car enthusiasts actually have the money to buy new cars? The only new car I could afford right now is a Dacia, and I'd have to finance even that.
Joshua Peterson
>1k+ every few months
If you brought a total piece of shit and did zero due diligence then yeah sure. Otherwise it might be 1k over a year.
Julian Davis
Most people finance new cars, it's pretty stupid to spend something like $20k on a Civic all at once, whether or not you have that $20k on you If you have good credit it only costs a couple hundred dollars to finance the car which frees us that $20k for something else, emergency fund, down payment on a house, investment, etc.
Aiden Ortiz
Just because I could buy a BMW 7 series for as little as 7000€ it doesn't mean that the dealer will treat it as a 7k car, au contraire it'll fuck me to death just to do regular maintenance and just fuck my corpse when something big has to be done.
Then you'll say "muh diy" but realize that for production shitboxes if you do things yourself the manufacturer doesn't care and they won't waste much time into making it difficult to you while with high trims models they'll do whatever it's possible to spill money from you as "you had the money to buy it, you'll have the money to maintain it". I also have a shitbox I bought for 2k€ and for me and I spend
Ian Evans
I should have said drivetrain and size. New engines and transmissions are improved efficiency wise, but basically the power peak is the same but 500rpm earlier, autos are now gay CVT. Interior I could give less of a shit about as I've literally stuck a phablet on my dash and suddenly my 2010 has 2017 media functions.
Can literally buy a lightly used 8th accord and a lightly boomered c5 Corvette for the cost of a new accord.
Austin Wood
sports cars are dying because roads are jammed up, young people aren't interested in cars and people simply don't have the money it's not because 4chins autists buy used
Luke Rivera
>live in pizzaland >gasoline costs 1.50€ per L I T E R >"user why don't you buy a 400hp guzzler? you want sport cars to die?" typical Veeky Forums mentality
Brayden Richardson
This
And if you're in an area with less traffic and roads you can speed around on - the city is poor so roads have potholes and in general shitty bumpy patch jobs to fill holes and cracks.
I'm weary about buying a Corvette because it would easily be destroyed just driving it "funly" around town and having the suspension dip on a shit road and break the oil pan, then burst into flames and burn me alive
Hunter Green
Well I don't really have the money to buy a new car. If I wanted to I would absolutely buy myself i nice rf nd miata or a 370z something fun, but shit man, its too much
Also its way cheaper to buy an na or nb miata for 1000-5000 dollars
Lucas White
That is my fetish.
Kevin Baker
Unless you're a BMW mechanic that can service that thing on your own or are buying it as a track/project car, you'd be an idiot to buy that.
Joshua Garcia
I mean like I'm not saying that I dont want to, because I would gladly finance to own a nd miata or any fun car from 20,xxx-30,xxx, but I just dont have the time or a job to do so, being a full time 19 year old student.
if I worked at least an 8 dollar job for 24 I can make 960 a month which would get me enough for the nd miatas average monthly payment for around 400, leaving me with 560, (although my math could and probably is wrong)
but like I said, I'm a full time student with no job currently and it would be much more money saved if I got that same job or any other job that payed as high as 12 an hour for 24 hours ,getting 1440 a month and spending it on a cheap car like an na miata.
James Martin
Baby Boomers were substantially richer than following generations are or will be though.
Ian Jenkins
because >australia in the shitter >nobody can afford anything due to >cost of living >massive debt >stupid taxes out the ass >dumb import policies >average wages stagnating
Why would i want to work a shit job for a shit 20-50k shitbox?
Holdens before the VF2 HSV's dropped like a rock
Gabriel Cruz
>live in oregon >lots of nice backcountry roads that are in reasonably good shape >a dirt road is fine too >buy new miat >many funs are had
Easton Perry
If I don't like something I'll complain about it regardless of my ability to fix said situation.
Grayson Sanchez
Because they're all plastic fuckin electronic chink trash dumbass
That and I dont even have a license.
Julian Mitchell
>posting old poor people cars Yeah, sure.
Jeremiah Walker
Becuase I'd rather have 3 older cars that cost the same as one new one, and are easier to work on.
Cooper Hernandez
>poor people cars I didnt post that to solidfy my point but I dont think you know what that even is do you?
You're looking at about a million bucks + for one of those exact models there m8
Joshua Perez
You are so good at humor.
Connor Brooks
Okay, so this is bait.
But just incase some dumbass reading this thinks you are right, there is a big difference between shitty 80s accordion bumpers and 70s classics.
I'd rather one of these to be honest, because those cars aren't worth that to me.
Aiden Watson
Look at OP's picture. This whole thread is a bait.
Camden Hill
Not him but i am OP, how is it b8? it is a car everyone bitches about being gone now but no one actually bought.
Brody Ward
Sorry, didn't meant to troll. I'm european and to me that looks like a hotroded Opel. Also you should specify that what you wrote is about the specific car. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people that will always prefer older cars. Or simply anything different that you aren't into.
Xavier Howard
>104,000 miles >$16,000
Isaiah Williams
Because I can't afford one being an Eastern Europoor making 500-600 euros a month
Jordan Collins
I bought a 2005 lesabre for less than 5k. It only had 45000 miles. It has every option but a sunroof, and the way I maintain cars it will run until the sun swells up to engulf the earth.
Jordan Stewart
How the fuck can you even live without a job while being a student?
Thomas Baker
the vf commodore? the last one rolled off the production line like a few months ago and people have been bitching about it on Veeky Forums ever since.
Cooper Peterson
But I did buy a new car, and even exactly the one you posted, with a 6 speed manual.
Jeremiah Bailey
Would you have paid extra for a hsv if they were available?
Chase Turner
It all depends on the type of car you’re buying. Some cars hold their value very well. Interest rates are very low on new cars, especially is you have 0% for so long and 0.9% after that. So if you are financing for say 3-5 years and have good credit, you will end up paying the same for new as you would have paying a 3 year old car. And it will still have value when you trade it in. So the cost of new vs used is basically the same on a lot of cars.
Brody Sanders
I go to a community college, relatively doable
Christopher Brooks
Probably not, seeing as the SS already has the HSV magneride that an AUDM Commodore SS-V Redline doesn't. I could probably throw a Whipple supercharger kit on it for less than the extra cost to get into the GTS anyway.
Jayden Sullivan
Looks decent. It looks like that those side intakes on the bumper are actually going somewhere.
Leo Cruz
The entire used car market would disagree with you there, slick.
Logan Ortiz
>Chevy badge
Wyatt Long
My dad makes over 450,000 a year and he drives a 2005 Toyota Tundra. He bought it in 2006 when it was used 18,000 miles for 14k less than when it was new. The truck recently just hit 100k miles and it still drives absolutely perfectly so he has no reason to trade up.
Smart people don't buy brand new cars. They wait a year or two for the biggest depreciation to pass and then pick it up for significantly less. Depreciation in dollar amounts generally follows an inverse exponential curve. First couple years it takes the biggest hit. Buying a new car and then selling it a couple years later just so you can get the newest model is one of the dumbest things you can do.
Aaron Johnson
Someone's gotta be dumb so that "smart" people can buy used cars. This is trickle-down economics at work.
Logan Powell
I literally just bought the Holden grille kit. Gonna put it on soon.
Christian Ramirez
Cat for scale.
Logan Russell
But at what point does it become worth it? Some cars don't depreciate that much after 2-3 years and you pay more maintenance on them. Am I supposed to just buy up to 4 20 year old shitboxes and hope they all work just fine?
Zachary Cruz
>hasn't actually driven the cars I forgot those old 8th gens had radar guided cruise control
Sebastian Brown
I live in poortugal, a country that encorages the use of old cars
Jordan Moore
The vents on the bonnet are functional too. Well, half of them are. They're a little longer for looks.
Charles Diaz
Because I hate drive by wire, fuck the onboard computers policing my driving.
Drive by cable>wire
Bentley Brown
I really wish I could have bought one of these new, but I'm 22 and just finished uni. It's going to be at least 2 years before I can afford a brand new car.