Are we entering the age of American cars?

Are we entering the age of American cars?
>Saleen
>Hennessey f5
>Lincoln navigator
>Aria FXE
>Ford GT
>Future Escala derived Cadillacs
>Mid engine corvette

half of those are specialist tuners, the other half are nigger tier and a mid-engined corvette is just wrong

The age of American cars ended in the 80s.

We're certainly seeing some real effort for American automakers, and some awesome tech refinement is improving ride quality and handling to better than its ever been. Well tuned MR suspensions are pretty incredible.

There was never an age of American cars and there will never be an age of American cars because to qualify for "an age of" it needs to dominate the global market, and the global market is far too different from American offers. Detroit has only ever built cars for itself.

I got to be honest. I like how Cadillac makes Batmobiles.

>Muh the interior and the exterior are made out of plastic
>muh some parts that could be made out of plastic are still made out of metal

>Detroit has only ever built cars for itself
I’ve always wondered what the executive parking lots of the big 3 are mainly composed of. My guess is the majority of their own management even drive euro or jap because they know the product quality is garbage

at some point in history the majority of cars even being built were from the US (even before WWII the first Global mass car was the model T)

That's because at that point large parts of the world outside of the US hadn't adopted the car, let alone mass car ownership yet.

>Saleen
It was only good back in 2003 through 2009

>Hennessey f5
*snore*

>Lincoln navigator
*snore*

>Aria FXE
*snore*

>Ford GT
*snores harder*

>Future Escala derived Cadillacs
Not gonna happen, ever


>Mid engine corvette
Might die at 6 miles.

I'm afraid American car makers think they're actually making good cars because Americans still buy them because they think American car makers are actually making good cars. It's a vicious cycle.

>V12

unf

Ford and sadly Tesla are the only good American cars.

>Tesla
well that certainly makes it easy to discard the opinion on anyone claiming what is and isn't "Good" as Tesla is bottom of the barrel in quality.

i see a lot of trucks and suvs on the ford world hq lots
it's hard to tell what the other cars are because it's skewed
obviously some are mustangs since there are stripes and some convertibles
they probably have google hide some of the parking spots because there are some spots where only bits of a car shows

so probably high end trucks/suvs and aston martins

I said sadly. I know it's shit but from the innovation and trying to be different is refreshing.

>Google Ford HQ
>Get ISIS picture for the town.

I would consider Ford a "good" American auto manufacture if they stopped being deluded and realize that the Ecobust engine is the worst engine ever developed by them with the help of Mazda.

That's why they sit at the bottom of the list of consumer reports because of that damn engine shitting the bed before 100,000 miles.

No
Enjoy your pickups for couple of years before japs and yuros dominate this niche too.

it isn't innovation though and its what every normie says. there were electric cars way before Tesla and they aren't any different from the electric cars being made now.

>Ignores all the other things they done to make a socially acceptable electric car.
>Confusing innovation and invention.
Don't talk to me anymore you basic bitch.

Dearborn has been under mudshit occupation for a while now
hopefully it gets cleaned up soon

kek

>all the other things they done to make a socially acceptable electric car
Name them, i'm generally curious.
>socially acceptable electric car
They pretty much made a meme out of electric cars like Apple made a meme out of smart phones even though they weren't doing much innovation.

they were the first one to offer a non utterly shit range
and they still are the only ones with a sufficient quick charge network for longer trips

>They pretty much made a meme out of electric cars like Apple made a meme out of smart phones even though they weren't doing much innovation.
so in other words they are super successful and normies love them so much they'll pay any price asked

Cadillac is literally ceasing production of all their sedans because they don't sell. Johan is a fraud and needs to be fired

i love that americans circle jerk over a car company run by a crook and a thief, and he's not even good at it.

hennessey is about as scummy as VAG yet you defend VAG :3

Saleen is just a tuner, their "new" car is German.
Hennessey is a shitter and the F5 will be a disappointment.
Who cares about this?
Wow a another shitty LS powered kit car tier "supercar"
Ok, at least this is decent.
Once again who cares?
This will be great if it ever comes out.

Nah, shit's going on just the same.

The last remaining member of the american car age was the panther platform.

>their "new" car is German.
fake news.
>A hybrid AWD hyper car with patented chassis designs is "shitty" but a V6 turbo turd from a manufacturer that actually has access to better engines and doesn't want it to even be compared to anything out of fear of getting BTFO is "decent"
well, glad to know how high your standards are at least.

So instead of a rebadge it's a ripoff. Also
>Saleen is a Chinese company now
lmao

This makes Saleen look like a cheapass Chinese company lol

Lexus was a rip off of Mercedes and they were (and still are) superior lol.
They will be in the future sadly with their upcoming models having more chinese involvement. it won't be like Volvo where the Chinese own them but the company gets to do whatever it wants. Steve Saleen is a cuck though and it was his dream to import chinese cars and he basically wants wong's chinkpink in his butthole.

>lexus
>superior to mercedes

The s7 wasn't made by saleen either

The problem with the new saleen is the fact that it doesn't have a ford v8

Better build quality, better reliability, lower cost of maintenance. everything people are criticizing Cadillac for Lexus actually has in spades... don't tell me europeans don't actually value quality and its just a fad they hide behind to pretend they are being objective when shitting on things that aren't from their favorite badges?

>no heritage
>no emotions
>ultimate boredom-mobile
sorry but these things far outweigh the slight advantage in build quality they might have
and that's why most europeans don't even consider lexus when buying a car
no one's gonna judge lexus based on their build quality because no one has ever sat in one
or would consider walking into a lexus dealership when looking for a new car to buy

>better reliability
>lower cost of maintenance
those don't really affect people buying new cars

>a V6 turbo turd from a manufacturer that actually has access to better engines and doesn't want it to even be compared to anything out of fear of getting BTFO is "decent"
Not him but ever since I read Adrien Newey's comments on why the Valkyrie has a giant V12 instead of a turbo'd V6 or whatever, i've been really annoyed with Ford choosing to put a V6 in the GT

As for the FXE, I hope they succeed because there seems to be a stigma against boutique sports car companies using LS engines. Also kind of wondering how they're only projecting 210 MPH out of their setup but whatever.

>"""slight""" advantage in build quality they """"""""might""""""""" have
joj
>no heritage
>no emotions
>that's why most europeans don't even consider lexus when buying a car no one's gonna judge lexus based on their build quality because no one has ever sat in one
or would consider walking into a lexus dealership when looking for a new car to buy
Yes, i had suspected europeans were dumb and that would confirm so and its why it almost comes off as a shitpost when they are lecturing anybody on quality only to turn their nose up when faced with the best of the best. the fact that even Maserati with their dodge parts is beating Lexus in sales in europe home of the we-know-quality-when-we-see-it is a fucking insult.

is it gay to love a woman with a penis?

...

>we-know-quality-when-we-see-it
did you even read my post?
I'm not criticizing lexus' build quality
just pointing out that no one sees it because no one's even looking at it
since they are lacking much more fundamental features of any upmarket car

all pussy shit.
real american car

Nah I think American cars only got good in the last decade

Where is the 800bhp turbo ls?

Would be dope to have one in a mr Vette

That's exactly the reason i was claiming euros were dumb. they buy cars for very dumb superficial reasons.

>people buy luxury goods for dumb superficial reasons

It's always been an age of American cars.

Funny because mazda turbo engines are good.

Ferd must have done cost cutting or something to make them so shit. New fords are easily the worst cars on the road

I hope so, if we get back to American automotive dominance it may help a lot of things.

When American cars are built for highways AND windy mountain roads, then we'll enter a golden age. For now, they're just freeway bombers with few other redeeming qualities.

>look at the new Audi A8 if you want to see how a luxury car should spec out

hhhhhhhhhhhng

>Saleen
It's a fucking rebadged 10 year old German car
>Aria FXE
Another Asphalt 8 shovelware car.

Everything else is fine.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

>no heritage
>no emotions
>ultimate boredom-mobile

>>Saleen
pathetic attemp
>>Hennessey f5
(((scammer)))
>>Lincoln navigator
Nice overpriced rebadged Ford
>>Aria FXE
literally who
>>Ford GT
Another generic fast car
>>Future Escala derived Cadillacs
More FWD SUVs/Crossovers coming while RWD sedans being phased out
>>Mid engine corvette
Not corvette at all... just another European-wannabe supercar
American cars, not even once.

Lexus is just meh to me. Not superior to Germans. Sorry.

I'm not the same guy claim lexus is better but
muh heritage, muh passion, muh feel are too fucking funny

>dat pic
hideous

japanese people really don't know how to design beutifull, sexy, classy stuff except if we are talking about hentai

>New fords are easily the worst cars on the road
Their 5L engines hold up really well aside from the water pump issues. Their flagship ecoboost engines on the other hand is both a joke and a lie, it's rare to see one with super high mileage even if it's been maintained well.

>implying 1946 to 1980 wasn't the age of American cars

agreed, but from my european point of view I would say that the age of american cars was up until the 90s becouse americans still had top of the line cars like cadillac fleetwood brougham, lincolns, buicks and good reputation when compared to most euro or jap cars. Too bad american cars fucking sucked in late 90s and early 00s. American car companies didn't restore their broken image from those days.

>implying American cars didn't steadily get worse from 1960 to 1980 apart from a short power war around 1970

>entering
we entered the age of american cars around 2009-2012

>cts-v gen 2
>ford coyote motor
>1LE camaro
>boss 302
>ZL1
>Z06
>new full size cars
>LS everywhere
>tesla
>raptor
>392 mopars
shit has been cash for nearly a decade my guy

us cars died in 73. we didn't return to any modicum of dominance until the 90s, and then faded away until the late 2000's