What went wrong?

Why can't those chinks build a proper F1-engine?

>busrider:thepost

What would it be like if China really did enter F1. if its anyone who can pull of the autism required for F1 engine development and the cost effectiveness its the chinks.

What do you mean? Butthurt Honda-soyboy?

>if its anyone who can pull of the autism required for F1 engine development and the cost effectiveness its the chinks.
Not really. Despite memes, engine development is difficult.
Making a 1.6L with an overly complicated thermal and kinetic hybrid system that must produce 900h, last at full stress for 5 races and then also be cheap requires a certain skillset that is not found in China. European (mostly UK based because that's where all the teams are, other than Ferrari) engineers do not want to move to China. Hell, the man responsible for the design of 8 cars that brought it's driver the WDC refused to move to Italy even for a massive amount of money. Sometimes, money is not enough.

And who the fuck would want to move to China, for fucks sakes?
>What would it be like
A waste of money. A humiliation for the Peoples Republic. When is the last time any good engineering came out of China?

When is the last time any good (race-)engineering came out of Japan?

90s.
Honda dominated F1.
R32 dominated touring cars.
Impreza and Evo dominated rallying.
Their street cars were cheap, light and most importantly fun.


But recession came and went in Japan. Then came again. That has forced Japanese auto companies to drop focus on developing new technologies in motorsports.
Which is why we haven't seen a noteworthy Japanese car since the R35 in 2007.

>90s

Toyota sucked in F1 AND LeMans. Honda sucked in F1. Rally is dead.

>Honda sucked in F1
Honda won 4 consecutive championships and their engine powered the most successful Formula 1 car of all time, the Mclaren MP4/4.

Better than anything amerifat, even Ford had to outsource their engines to Cosworth

Honda in the 00's sucked and they suck now.

>being this autistic

Didn't they get into F1 to develop, test and refine some magic alien space engine tech? Something to do with homogenous ignition or something, afaik.

I'm sorry, six consecutive championships as engine manufacturers.
86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91.
All that research went into their engine development during the 90s, which is we got VTEC, yo.
>Honda in the 00s
Well, it was Mugen who supplied the engines. There was no Honda F1 team until 2006.
They were pretty shit, but then in 2009 a miracle happened and they won the WDC and WCC.
At this point Honda was no longer part of F1 due to pulling out because muh obammy crisis.
>they suck now
Yeah, they do.
But nip tech did win the Le Mans, 6 consecutive F1 titles, 12/14 rallies between 1990 and 2003 and then there was the Group A R32 which blew everything.
Like I said. 90s. Retard

So you, just like the japs, live in the 'glorious' past?

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>then in 2009 a miracle happened and they won the WDC and WCC.
That was after Honda sold the team to Ross Brawn. They were using Mercedes engines.

Not only that, but the car that Brawn used that year wasn't even the car that Honda had designed; It was like a test-hack specifically built without a hybrid system just in case the car Honda of Japan was making didn't work and they needed a quick Plan B to get out onto the track.

honda was dominant in the 80s with williams and mclaren. Honda was only good in 1990 and 1991 in the 90s. Renault and ferrari dominated the 90s

>Making a 1.6L with an overly complicated thermal and kinetic hybrid system that must produce 900h

>and then also be cheap
you dense motherfucker, at $2million per unit these engines are anything but cheap. whole fucking drive "make engines cheaper" is actually making them more expensive, because they have to make something that lasts 3000miles AND sustains 4.5 bars of boost AND has 18:1 compression ratio AND get combined 7.5mpg while having >940hp AND for 2018 pistons must weight not less than 300g.
fucking retards like you and FIA

gotchu senpai

>300g

Fuck me that's a tiny engine.

>3000miles
>4.5bar
>7.5mpg
>940hp
>300g
Post only when you decide on a unit system.