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Yeah, but was it worth it? Don't you spend more in war?
Nathan Taylor
Never
Liam Perry
Doing a protestant Italy run in EU4
Should I do it as Florence or Milan?
Jonathan Walker
Pinochet wasn't spanish
Jackson Lee
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting
Lucas Diaz
we have two new threads and the old one isn't even at bump limit great work fellas keep it up
Colton Sanchez
Florence
Gabriel Roberts
Milan, the florentine are scum
Evan Kelly
Milan
Logan Lee
Thanks
Oliver Hughes
>protestant Italy
Jose Edwards
>protestant italy KYS
Jaxon Williams
Based
Ian Brown
The AI just tried to land two armies from naval invasions to ignore my forts to the North. Quite cute imo
>You didn't take Quality, Culture and Humanist - most strongest ideas in this mod. Quality is not as strong when you have forts and play attrition wars. Leadership however is the strongest so I took it, followed by Admin for merc maintenance and overall cost reduction, then Trade for money, fort for defense and so on. I didn't have the mana required to waste on anything else sadly
Yes, definitely. I maintain all my forts for far less than they should cost
Connor Jones
t. catholicuck
James Fisher
Hold up, are you using a mod? I'm really digging the graphical style, what's it called?
Kevin Ramirez
Why do people love Admin ideas so fucking much Why are mercs infinite?
Where was your fleet? How you steering trade w/o light ships?
Luis Robinson
>I maintain all my forts for far less than they should cost >paying full maintenance on forts why
Juan Peterson
Nice false flag Robbie, calm down now
Noah Perry
M&t
Juan Rogers
Okay, so I've just united all of the Iberian Peninsula under a single Christian ruler, yet now I kind of lack the urge to continue playing this save - sure, I could just continue building up my lovely Golden Square, getting involved in foreign wars and all that, but it just feels... Hollow, you know? Like it's a whole lot of Speed 4x with my only real interactions on the outside being marriage.
So... What do you recommend for my next campaign? I'm entertaining the idea of a Byzantine run since I haven't actually played the Empire in two years, but I'm also kind of toying with the idea of playing Russians or the Polish.
Josiah Perez
Saladin or any muslim really, they are the most fun to play as
Grayson Reed
I know it's a little late to give you advice (XVIII century lol), but Humanism and Policy of Tolerance OP in current version of mod.
Tyler Foster
Protestant Italy
Luke Jackson
>29 posts >11 posters really made me think r&i
Landon Turner
>playing bloatmod
James Rodriguez
I decided to walk out before my manpower starts dropping too low. 300k casualties is more than satisfying to me, along with the huge chunk of land I took up there. The AI also paid for everything I spent in the war plus 1k
M&T
>Why do people love Admin ideas so fucking much Inflation mana cost reduction, merc maintenance reduction, state maint. reduction, land maint. reduction, fort maint. reduction, inflation reduction per month AND -0.10 corruption. All of those ideas are excellent
>Where was your fleet? How you steering trade w/o light ships? No fleet because no coasts, and I'm not steering trade from trade nodes which I don't have provinces inside
>why The Ottomans attacked me twice earlier at random times so I decided to just let them sit like that. Now that I decide when the wars happen I can mothball them
>but Humanism and Policy of Tolerance OP in current version of mod I'll try them out in the next campaign, thanks
Jordan Allen
>Protestants in EU IV.
Anthony Hall
humanism is good in any version of eu4
Henry Adams
They are the most OP religion by far Plus protestant countries are the best IRL
Kayden Gomez
Try Theatrum Orbis Terrarum, it's look much better.
Camden Moore
>Inflation mana cost reduction, merc maintenance reduction, state maint. reduction, land maint. reduction, fort maint. reduction, inflation reduction per month AND -0.10 corruption. All of those ideas are excellent Yeah but economy ideas makes you more money
Brayden Ward
desu typus is the best and only needed eu4 mod
Xavier Campbell
what CKII mod do people use to add other nobles' sisters/daughters to their harem as sex slaves?
Oliver Stewart
Wrong
Justin Robinson
Game of Thrones
Jose Moore
Dark world
Jordan Gomez
Probably Dark World by loverslab
Cameron Ortiz
Ok guys I've got a question: Playing Vic 2 with HPM as Wallachia, went down that nationalism and imperialism, united the provinces and took western Transylvania with the help of Russia. Now, AUS-HUN allied Otto and Two sicilies and declared on my. How TF do I beat those fuckers (Note, I don't have almost any forts, the ones that I do have are all lvl 1's). Also, any tips for improving the economy? I tried to get the socialists in power (it's getting there) but I'm a bit confused by the factory system. What factories should I build?
Juan Cox
thanks guys but does this mod also let you add other nobles' sons to your harem i'm not gay just wondering haha
Kevin Kelly
>that >good are you fucking blind?
Christian Smith
Can we all agree that hoi4 is worse than 3 but better than DH?
Jaxon Moore
DH is better than HOI3 so uhh no
Joseph Fisher
One word: Russia
Luis Russell
Ottos is very good country for looting. With heavy restricted looting (5% disc - OP) you can take 10 000 ducant of loot.
Dylan Clark
>What factories should I build? Profitable ones, like car, clothes, consumer goods, stuff like that. Military goods are only good for your army. Try to build according to your resources.
Jonathan White
Yes
William Ramirez
>ou can take 10 000 ducant of loot. Nice balance gigau
Daniel Gray
Ally Russia or Germany,
Benjamin Carter
>looting that much money late game I thought M&T was supposed to be historic?
Jordan Flores
Wrong DH is shit
Aiden Hernandez
Yes
Wyatt Gray
The problem is that HOI4 is unfixable, having the National Focuses be the backbone of getting things in motion doesn't leave much to improvement.
Joshua Hughes
that much gold pays for like 3 buildings, its balanced considering what you need to do to get it
Asher Watson
>having the National Focuses be the backbone of getting things in motion doesn't leave much to improvement. why? I thought they are pretty good
Caleb Hernandez
Restart and hope that the Crimean war ends with you uniting Wallachia/Moldavia. Otherwise, restart since this sets you back more than 10 years easily.
Angel Perry
>M&T >Balanced lel
Carson Kelly
I can't take this money to treasure without huge loss of stability. So they go to my provinces.
Adam Brooks
sounds really cool is it a good mod?
Adam Ramirez
So looting and keeping the money makes your country unstable? What the fuck
Connor Robinson
lmao epic keks my dude. 20 upvotes to you, for the win!!
Adam Williams
fuck off, you would never get to build these "mere 3 buildings" without war. war is supposed to be financially devastating and something worth avoiding, not a looting fest, gigau practically made all nations into ck2 vikings effectively turning m&t into trash that encourages even more blobbing than vanilla
Cameron Hill
fuck off back to your steamgroup nigger
Oliver Cruz
This
Daniel Foster
>soldiers spend years fighting in enemy territory >finally break into somewhere, rape and pillage >haul all that shit back home >king decides that he deserves a massive share of the shit you just spent months breaking into a fortress to get despite doing fuck all in the war
Evan Adams
>soldiers don't work for the king >they don't have commanding officers or anything like that
Alexander Anderson
>When your family in CK2 becomes big enough that incest starts happening on its own #JustCrusaderThings
>encourages blobbing >when you can't loot land you own What did he mean by this?
Jaxon Davis
>trash that encourages even more blobbing than vanilla
Have you actually tried to blob in M&T? It's not as easy as it seems
Parker Martinez
It's not *my* (king) money, it's my soldiers money. They would be really upset if I take away more than tenth of they prize.
Jack Russell
>war is supposed to be financially devastating For the losing side, just lmao loot everything and then demand tribute/reparations
Eli Miller
yeah i'm sure if hitler told his troops to loot more they would get enough billions of gold coins to hire another army group and win the war. if you declare war somwhere and occupy (=loot) a couple of provinces, you might as well annex them after if you can afford it to maximize your gain. see the persian user for reference.
Noah Sanchez
>arguing with the M&T drones that think bloatmod is perfect
Angel Young
>encourages even more blobbing Blobbing? No. Looting? Yes. How else I can develop my Milan?
Zachary King
The loot pool is 'owned' by the soldiers who looted it in the first place, if they get the keep it then they take it home after the war is over and spend it in the local economy, improving provinces. If the king decides to take a lion's share of the loot then the soldiers get uppity. It's a perfectly reasonable system, I don't play EU4/M&T but I like it a lot.
Juan Carter
>bloatmod
Buy a PC that's not $300
Eli Rodriguez
t. gigau
Jayden Gonzalez
>Protestant >warmongering Like pottery
Lucas Kelly
Explain how it's a bad system.
Nolan Edwards
Did you see how much buildings cost in this mod?
Matthew Garcia
>yeah i'm sure if hitler told his troops to loot more they would get enough billions of gold coins to hire another army group and win the war.
literally has nothing to do with your original claim which was looting isnt a normal activity and doesn't happen during war
>if you declare war somwhere and occupy (=loot) a couple of provinces, you might as well annex them after if you can afford it to maximize your gain. see the persian user for reference.
stupidest post I have read today
annexing land requires manpower, resources, communication lines etc to make sure the previous owner doesn't take it back. Why bother when you could just steal his shit?
This is the real world, you don't get a popup when that guy wants his castle back. He just marches in and takes it.
Elijah Nelson
Maybe it's because you're not supposed to get all of them?
Chase Wood
Looting destroys buildings and kills population off, so you want to raze the shit out of countries you aren't taking and avoid looting the ones you are.
Luke Ross
Hi gigau Lurking the thread again?
Jordan Harris
>88 posts >20 ips REALLY made me think r&i
Nolan Ramirez
...
Jonathan Kelly
kys trash, your bloatmod is shit and will always be shit. unless i play somewhere isolated like scotland or spain you get random 10 sec freezes whenever 34958 modifiers need to be updated.
Adrian Thompson
>34958 modifiers Excuse me we call these "pops" in M&T Thank you
Andrew Sanders
>somewhere isolated like spain
Blake Wood
>somewhere isolated like western europe
Alexander Reed
>your original claim which was looting isnt a normal activity and doesn't happen during war i never claimed that, but i guess m&t kids need to lie to defend their trash bloatmod
>This is the real world, you don't get a popup when that guy wants his castle back. He just marches in and takes it. so now you're on a mental breakdown and can't even speak normally
Chase Smith
>3.2 GHz heh
Wyatt Edwards
spain, bordering 3 countries, is isolated compared to byzantium or austria that border 10-20 countries.