Should you just forget about women and do your best to gain wealth and financial success, if you're undesirable to them ?
Let's say you want to earn wealth and financial success by becoming an Accountant or a GM at a (4 or 5 star) hotel.
Secondly, you'd just go to escorts (for sex) instead of having a girlfriend or wife.
Lastly, let's say you will give your siblings your wealth just before you die (to help them out).
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Duh!
Fuck yes
>Let's say you are trying to
Interesting idea but seems kinda empty.
You are assuming that women will leave you alone as soon as you focus on yourself.
What happens is the opposite. As soon as you start to value yourself, your career, your time more than other people you'll be surrounded by people that want something from you. Especially women will be attracted.
The question is if you can keep your focus. Most people fail to do so.
This.
No. When you become rich the women around you will know instantly you are an easy mark. Your money will attract the gold diggers. You must learn the way of the women if you want a real down to earth girl.
this does not actually happen
Shut the fuck up
It does.
I'm not talking about some wage slave who works 70 hours a week and spends the rest of his time playing games or watching Netflix.
lol way to move the goalposts
what are you talking about then you literal child
Dude, every single person that values himself is going to become someone valued by others. Simple as that.
If you value your health you gonna work out and follow a healthy diet, therefor look healthy.
If you value your time you won't waste it in front of a screen doing stupid shit, you will be active.
If you are active you are active you are going to meet people and spend time with them (hiking, some team sports, travelling)
It is a positive feedback loop you can't avoid. Body improves and you feel more confident. More confidence leads to more social interactions, more compliments, more risk taking, more authority, more responsibility.
And this was just your body, your physical appearance as a starting point. Same positive feedback loop with your mind/knowledge/experience.
hoo boy keep telling yourself that
if i told you i worked not 70 but merely 40 hours a week and made $85k you'd tell me i need to own a business and make a million a year
if i told you my net worth was a quarter million at 24 you'd probably say it needs to be ten million for it to start happening
if i told you i lost 60 pounds and lift every other day you'd come up with some other bullshit
women don't approach you, period
i would know if they did because i would masturbate to the satisfaction of telling them to fuck off
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You guys seem to want to focus on your careers as a way to "spite women" and treating it as a substitute for happiness.
At a certain age you will realize no one gives a fuck about how much you make and it does not bring you any happiness and it will hit you HARD.
>Should you just forget about women and do your best to gain wealth and financial success, if you're undesirable to them ?
I am going to assume you don't mean women, you mean attractive women like in your pic. If you gain enough money you will become desirable to them, your status as a man will rise as your wealth and power does, as will your ability to provide her with the life she desires. You should also look into getting Veeky Forums as I doubt you will make enough money to attract women like that if you are fat, old, and ugly.
I would ignore the field of dream posters here that think women will simply come to you.
Do you retard read my posts?
Great, you are financially not an idiot. You also seem to care a little about your health.
You are just a socially inept motherfucker!
And what do socially inept motherfuckers do? They avoid uncomfortable situations. They avoid conflict. if you would value yourself, have standards, you would face situations out of your comfort zone all the time and learn to deal with it. This experience is what you are missing.
You have a toxic mindset. Why the fuck do you think women should approach you? They have the same mindset as you, "I exist therefor I deserve it".
You should forget women even if you *are* desirable to them, desu
You sound like a collegecuck that thinks his face will become attractive once he gets his career sorted.
its all about love, OP. physical appearance and money doesn't matter when you are in love like picrelated
I'm talking about my experience and you are correct my face is not perfect. Tinder for example is a waste of time for me.
And still I constantly meet women that show interest in me because I did the shit mentioned above.
7 sub past-their-prime women don't count. A Chad gets to enjoy 7+ prime women since HS while you rot and study. Then years later you get the scraps. Even if they fuck around and end up in McDonalds, they already won: They fucked 8+ prime girls. They can always get an instagram nowdays and make money online. Can't lose as a Chad.
Life is a scam. Cards dealt at birth.
welp.
Wow, Elliot Roger mindset. Pathetic.
Wait. Is wagecucking 70 hrs/week and playing games and netflix not the way to make it? Srs ques. what if I drink beer with college friends once a month or so?
you limit upward mobility by being single beyond a point of around 30 and 60-100k a year
a lot of networking occurs at the couples level, your boss is more likely to invite you to something if your wife will distract his
people will suspect you're gay
by having a wife and children you're showing yourself as trustworthy, a 40 year old father of 2 is probably less likely to get into trouble over the weekend than a 40 year old bachelor
normal coworkers will bond with each other instead of you and can conspire against you
yeah fuck this is something I am trying to figure out. Whether or not to open a family medical GP practice but I am not married. Might get married just to look good on paper ...
>Why the fuck do you think women should approach you?
they shouldn't
because they don't and they won't as per my original post
it doesn't happen
oh no
people won't like you because you're not a good little worker who never steps out of line, out of the ever present fear that your family will lose the secure regular income you provide for them along with the health insurance
sure you won't have to worry about that
but someone might think you are a gay!!
it hit me hard at 16
I just spent a decade figuring out how to get over it, beyond the obvious fact that the alternative will also most definitely not bring happiness
You sound boring as fuck
He's right though
Read about "marriage premium" and you will see why being single only harms your employment prospects
>people won't like you because you're not a good little worker who never steps out of line, out of the ever present fear that your family will lose the secure regular income you provide for them along with the health insurance
Management will not like a single 40 year old male as much as a married one. It's a fact.
If it's something like a civil servant it doesn't matter as much, but something like accounting? The partners at a firm care about stuff like this.
OP wants to wagecuck for his life ignoring women and I'm boring?
oh yeah they absolutely care
because it makes you obedient and keeps you fearing for each paycheck
they know you're not gonna jump ship and move elsewhere for better pay
you're stuck with a mortgage and kids in school
anchored in place for the rest of your life
>At a certain age you will realize no one gives a fuck about how much you make
Yeah, if you're poor.
Can't forget those tits
Hookers?
implying that guy isn't rolling in cash
>lifting every other day
Never gonna make it
Biz how do I find these gold diggers.
I make good bux now for the area I live. I own a house and car and work out daily but the only girls that have shown interest are not attractive even by my relative low standards.
how do i convert $$ into qt's? is such a thing even possible?
>implying all women aren't glorified hookers
>it was sarcasm..
gotta agree with this man, I'm fairly lean & ripped and make boku bux + house + car but zero female interest except fat girls and single moms.
yes. spent many years and effort trying to get cute girls. got in a relationship with cute girls.
now all i effort towards is wealth and im behind. she wud only be a hindrance but she cooks and cleans and does laundry.
i only have energy to enjoy fucking her once a week.
80% of u will be left with a woman that doesnt cook, doesnt clean, and fucks but not solely you.
Because you're not chad jarvis aged 16 with daddy's money and the offer of no-strings-attached easy fun in their prime before the ever accelerating slope of time turns them both fat because they lived a sexually promiscuous lifestyle from the very beginning of adult thinking and they get stuck in a mode of quick rewards for little effort and eventually eat, drink, or smoke themselves to death
aka your life is infinitely better than chad and stacy will ever be, because you can go pick up any stacy you'd like and treat them like shit and know they'll still beg you for your support
FUCK THE THE RED CIRCLES! WTF!
???
fuck you role player poser
go fuck yourself
>If you are active you are active you are going to meet people and spend time with them (hiking, some team sports, travelling)
FUCK if it comes down to having to pretend to enjoy [ hiking | team sports | travelling ] or dying alone It would warrant consideration.
why didn't you just say 'participate in these activities' instead of 'focus on your career and yourself' you goal post moving retard.
sigh
im not
very rich chink that thinks my 428 is trash and my recent raise from 65k to 85k is shit tier. only reason i can have her is cuz i dont want her 75%of the time cuz so bz with work and study
they will come at you with godawful outfits and u have to say it looks good
Elliot Rodger is an alphamale, cuck.
this is the hard truth my man, at least where i'm at there's a director that's getting shit on behind his back constantly by his peers and C level execs specifically for his bachelor lifestyle.
it's surreal like I said, they all behave the same way without any overt organization as if his marital status is a threat or problem.
this is truth, don't do it, although I think women end up in this scenario more than men esp in the early 20s.
Don't do it if you do not enjoy it.
There is only one variable and it is you! Your career, happiness, health it all depends on you. No goal post moving because of this.
Those were just examples. I had a few friends who were some hardcore gamer and I convinced them to give paintball a shot. After the paintball weekend they bought their own equipment because they had so much fun. If I had invited them to go hiking they probably would have bailed on me.
The important thing is doing something active, have social interaction.
Income of 100k still puts you in the no one gives a fuck zone.
Don't fall for this meme
>yfw it still doesn't matter because instead of being magically attracted to you she just gets approached by 5 other chads
This is sadly far too accurate
Nobody cares if some dumpy ass bitch has a job, or if she's educated, or if she has any decent personality or plays any sports or anything. If she's fairly attractive with decent genetics then she's good, nothing else required.
>his marital status is a threat or problem
it IS a threat or a problem
to them and their business
how easy would it be to replace that director
how many years of training would it take to get the same quality work out of someone else
but if he lived every day gripped by fear from not having the fuck you money and mobility to actually say fuck you to them, they would absolutely love him
Being decent with woman is a skill you can learn if you want to become successful often you need to work on your social skills anyway. Like a lot of the skills you need to be good with woman are useful in any type of interaction.
That's actually right. Had my heart broken once severily and turned so bitter, cold and unempathetic that now most interactions in my dog-eat-dog business world seem like a nice warm shower to me. When before I was much too nice in general.
Yeah OP life becomes a degree more empty once You give up on The concept of love and I feel bad about giving away The chance of a textbook familiy enviroment for any Future children, but making Money is The way to go and marrying is for peasants.
In other words: Yes focus on yourself. Have a plan. Know what You doing and where You Are going. And You will be very independent, solid as a stone
don't fall back on females ever, see them as a liability. A commodity. They are a hobby, a part time job.
That depends. Do you want to be like this man or not?
You just explained the behavior of about 1/3 of men.
Not trying to hate on these fellas, but whores are like a Chinese buffet. You'll be satisfied for a minute then just be hungry again.
Once the dick gets what it wants, the heart grows an appetite too.
Yep.
You can lose money chasing women, but you don't often lose women by chasing money.
Malcolm X once said: you must put your life's purpose above your woman. Not only is this the right way to live, but women respond positively to this mindset.
simple: get another whore, then get back to work
Perhaps your lack of success with women is derived less from not being Chad and more from being outrageously paranoid and self-defeating
Take it from someone who was born a millionaire that money is no substitute for good looks, confidence, etc.
If your goal in life is to get rich in order to compensate for lacking in those departments, you will be sorely disappointed.
What? Bullshit. Give 3 examples to prove your point. Shit that you've personally been through. What is your net worth? (I'm trying to get rich so I can get women. Pull up in a Porsche 911 and the girls have to be impressed, right?)
>Pull up in a Porsche 911 and the girls have to be impressed, right?
Pic related my friend. Pursue wealth, by all means. Just don't do it in order to have success with women, do it to live the best life possible. There is no shortcut to looking your best and improving your social skills.
>Secondly, you'd just go to escorts (for sex) instead of having a girlfriend or wife.
New low.. try r9k
What is your profession, senpai?
Don't you think you'd hate women if they didn't want anything but your money? I feel like that would be more soul crushing than not having gf.
Inheritance, currently studying economics at uni. If you want to make serious cash, you're going to have to build up your own business/be self-employed. Studying something that will land you a well-paying job and investing the majority of your salary in index funds will also do the trick.
That said, has the right idea. I'm not saying it's impossible to attract women by waving your cash around, but they are not the type of women you want in your life. Hit the gym, get our of your comfort zone, make friends and eventually find yourself a gf. I'm a 24-y/o virgin sitting on a pile of cash, because I need to take care of my body more and become more sociable.
I just find bbw sluts on tinder and fuck a couple of em a month, having a gf (dont even get me started on having a wife) is just asking to give up on life and become a cuck
nice try retard, the 911 series dont come with autistic electronic keys
991.1 and above certainly do. If you knew your Porsche, you'd have noticed the fact that my key also has a button to open the rear trunk, which 911's don't have as the fucking engine is located there. I drive a Cayman S, which really makes no difference considering the points I make in my post. You think some dumb golddigger bitch (or any female really) can tell a 911 from a Cayman? They see shiny new Porsche and that's it.
people who cant afford a 911 get a shitty pajeet cayman, everyone knows this play the fucking game, you might as well be driving a yellow autismo mustang
My Panamera 911 has the same electronic keys
Retard.
If you are rich than you should spend your money and get some life experience.
Study for a semester abroad in some shithole country for instance. Do something that scares you.
I lived/studied in China for a few months and I was scared as fuck. I did not speak the language. I was completely on my own, not one friend wanted to join me. Life changing experience and one of the best times I had in my life.
Back at home people told me I've changed a lot. Way more confident, more open, more aggressive/taking charge if necessary...
Seriously, do something where your money/status does not help you.
Everyone should visit completely foreign cultures.
here's your reply!
Lol overwhelming salt. Git gud kid and get back in this thread when you're no longer rocking a rusty ford
>it does not bring you any happiness
believe it or not, it does make me happy to look at the spreadsheet of my cash, bank accounts and investments.
is this pasta?
>woman
Why not hire a hot 10/10 escort, senpai?
I didn't realise women flock to paintballers.
Mah nigga. Quoting malcolm X is the most alpha response
Women
-Have money for make up
Have high genetic value. Top tier mandible and maxilla projection from birth or from osteotomies is the only way to be happy in life.
Escorts/prostitutes for sex, surrogates if you want children
The succubi are a meme and divorces will fuck you up, not to mention the hell you have to go through living with them every day of your life
It's real though, people start to wonder why you aren't married or no kids. They don't think like you and say "oh well he's just a mega genius bucking the system" they say oh must be a fag or degenerate who can't keep a girl because he's a CP freak or something.
>winning defined as fucking 8+ prime girls
This is a gold digger trying to cuck businessmen keep on trying and destroy them all for me
These are all chadlets only the second one is a true Chad. Chalets are the second to feed after chad's then after that it's normal people then that are socially awkward/shy people then total pussy cuck then you
>Let's say you want to earn wealth and financial success by becoming an Accountant or a GM at a (4 or 5 star) hotel.
Lmao, good luck getting rich at a Ritz Carlton faggot
>Secondly, you'd just go to escorts (for sex) instead of having a girlfriend or wife.
So still letting women be a financial drain? Why not just live your life, jack off when needed, and eventually settle with a chick who isn't a leech?
I come here because I am abysmal with money. I've bought 4 cars over the last 5 years and run them all into the ground cause lol shiny.
I owe tens of thousands in student debt and maxed out my credit card. Probably got shit credit.
But my girl loves me despite being broke af because I don't act like a fucking beta.
congrats big alpha man tough guy
make lots of babies!
>At a certain age you will realize no one gives a fuck about how much you make and it does not bring you any happiness and it will hit you HARD.
True. I really love section 8 housing, no education and no hope for the future. Really makes me happy. Said no one ever.
>i spent 100 bucks on self help scam books and now i think i know everything:starter pack
Lol with thinking your cliche meme rhetoric is radical and revolutionary this shit only applies to 6'4 extroverted charismatic chads in a temporary rut
Not really. I'd rather be fucking a 10/10 who only wants me for my money and securities than jacking off alone every night trying to kill myself. You sound like a normie.
This is only true if your good looking
may I ask what do the FUCK are you doing in a place like this ?