/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

What it could have been edition.

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
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>Character Planner
mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
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>DEMON'S SOULS
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>BLOODBORNE
docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: >KING'S FIELD
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>COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
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Steam group: steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral

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>playing SotFS no-death no-bonfire run
>mfw every time there's a Forlorn invasion
I am literally sweating bullets with these motherfuckers, and I haven't even met the scythe-using ones yet

whats wrong with parrying dagger?
isn't caestus basically the same thing now?

Thanks user
I'll just go with Merc

>having trouble with forlorn
Scythe ones are only spawned from the sconches in aldia's keep I think, so don't worry
>whats wrong with parrying dagger?
Parry frames start way too late, sucks because parry dagger is Veeky Forums.

I fucking love this guy's videos no, it's not me, it's some jap.

youtube.com/watch?v=OWCZXkneMHw

but it's literally just the 9th frame, just like dasiii caestus, perfect for reactionary last moment parries
how is it "late"?

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That bridge and cathedral of the deep are the only locations where I enjoyed invading in this game
Silvercat drops feel so fucking good

oh shit nvm you are talking about parry dagger in das3

I'm talking about the DS3 one. DS2 one was very good

It's my favorite ring in all of the games (the DS3 version in particular). It's so fun.

soon enough people will start gesturing after each single hit

this thing is good in moderation
when it's spammed by everyone on every occasion, it loses it's impact and purpose

>fucked up the questline
>no catring

I love invading too
this sucks

>that nonstop rollspam
This game disgusts me to no end

I love invading the Cathedral Rooftops.

That little jump just after the clustered crossbow hollows has gained me so many pale tongues.

He's killing literal retards. Why are they even TRYING to go across the bridge when there's a dark phantom standing on the other side?

You guys still play this game? Are you losers?

I hope you have a millwood bow in second slot

You still shitpost in this thread? Are you a loser?

I haven't played this game in three years. I've heard they've changed scaling with one of the recent patches, what are the softcaps/thresholds nowadays?

I don't keep my millwood bow equipped, shit is too heavy. If I need it I swap it out for the crossbow.

youtu.be/nu5p_ivltC4?t=4546

They played us like a damn fiddle!

"recent"
Dex pretty much caps at 80 now
Str at 60/66
Luck (poison and bleed infusions at least) at 50
For casters nothing changed

>For casters nothing changed
So, 60?

exactly, 40/40 for pyros
oh and 30/30 for dark and chaos infused weapons

Additionally, 45/45 for dork spellcasting

Some spell casting tools also scale much harder before 40-45: reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4m768y

How do infused weapons fare past 30/30? I'm not making a pvp char, just wondering how well elemental melee works in the late game compared to pure physical.

Better off going STR or DEX for even more damage, depending on what the base weapon scales better with.

The next time I fight this thing I'm going to crush her with Ledo's Shitfucker. Jesus fucking christ this bitch was annoying.
>Sliver of health left
>hurr durr let me roll around for a solid minute, then spam lightning arrows
>I have unlimited stamina and focus but this seems fair rite?

So for weapons like Onyx Blade it's better to invest into str once you hit 30 in both int and faith?

I just realized my post isn't clear at all.

I mean 30 INT, 30 FTH and then some STR or DEX on top. I didn't mean in stead of INT+FTH.

>past 30/30
Basically no gains, an example is dark LKS, at 30/30 it has 498 AR, at 40/40 it has 512, a measly 14 AR for a whole 20 levels.
Now for Onyx, going 40/40 is worth but dark claymore is better overall and caps at 30/30

I was talking about dark/chaos infused weapons. I'm not sure about Onyx Blade because it's a unique weapon, you'd probably best dick around a bit on mugenmonkey.

how many times should I kill the first two demons for 1 attempt at the prince before killing myself irl?

1

ok thanks brb

depends
what NG?

>invade at crux woods to avoid collectors edition users at pontiff
>takes 30 hits to kill first guy with a 600 AR straight sword
anyone not using CE?

I've found it easiest that right when you get in, start wailing on Pain while Below makes its way towards you. When they're both charged, start running until Below cools down, and finish off Pain. Sprint to Below and repeat.
Once you get into Prince, stay right on it, but don't get caught with your back to the wall or in a corner. Ripostes won't do as much as they do on Midir, but they still do a good amount.

Why are you not using the mace right now?

Because most people aren't as retarded as that guy

Both Ganktown and Gank City are infested, literally anywhere else is okay

But then you wouldn't have backup, would you

wdym

What makes halberds worse than spears?

Because it's a more shit version of the Warpick

>replaying the game
>no summoning circles anywhere
Is the game dead?

that blows because i like killing covenant players (aldrich, watchdogs)

i wish they'd come down a little harder on the blatant hacking

galvanize will never be as good as perseverence and you know it, shitter

Everyone's playing offline because of World Tendency.

Anyone else try MLGS buffed with DMB? The weapon is amazing.

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btfo

>be eruopoor
>play deliberately at 3 AM in the morning
>open up Bittorrent with 500gb of Hentai porn downloading before playing
>only use Washing Pole running attack

And that's how I earned my gold medal in the arena :^)

>Tumblebuffing

*unzips duel charm*

>play deliberately at 3 AM in the morning

Just turn on cross region, I still get matched with BRs and ruskies 90% of the time

I prefer the spear moveset.

m8 the game is one and a half year old.
TRC brought back a few people but most left right after. This general is also officially in "off-season mode". The only reason /dsg/ is still here is the recent sales of TFF edition and the newfags wandering in with their questions.

That and the retard sorc webm-poster plus the tripfags. Even /bbg/ sees more traffic these days.

Even BB is active compared to this shit here. What the hell.

The best part about the cathedral rooftops is that they're miles away from a bonfire because of the Cathedral's design.

It means that the host has to fight you or get chased down with a dagger and fucked to death as he tries to run through an entire level.

Still plenty of invader action to be had if you're willing to wear the red and get good.

because of chalice dungeons and FC's

if BB had password pvp and had a reworked invasion system /dsg/ would die overnight

/bbg/ actually got a resurgence of traffic recently, it's in an upswing right now for one reason or another.

But yeah, the lack of hope for any more content or updates really kills interest in DaS3. We have to wait for TGS before we'll have even a word on From's new RPG project.

>literally NEVER EVER

Need to land halberd swings with the blade, don't know if any other weapon even operates like that

Not shit though, just that spears are ez to use and take advantage of lag/no poise

After 300 hours of invading in every single way possible it just isn't fun anymore.

Majority of players you bump into are no-fun-allowed 4 man ganksquads with infinite blues summoned once you manage to take down one of them.

That 1/10 fun invasion isn't worth the slog going through the 9/10 shit ones. The same PvE is done after 50 hours and the pvp gets incredibly stale after a while.

I'd probably switch to Bloodborne if it had better invasions

Actually no I wouldn't because >consoles

I use CE to make all my invaders, too much hassle otherwise. Guess I'm shit outta luck.

I enjoy about 80% of the invasions I do

The ones that I don't enjoy are the ones where it's a solo host who doesn't know how to play. I just drop them a Great Champion Soul and bc out.

>I'd probably switch to Bloodborne if it had better invasions
I have way more fun doing invasions in BB. The combat system and movement feels so much better.

Yeah but the system itself is completely retarded.

iktf. invasions are supposed to be about fucking over normal players, hunting humanity and shit but I feel bad when it's a scrub going solo too

at least they're trying compared to the million others with 4 babysitters at all time

You have nonstop invasions in that one nightmare area during peak hours every day.

I give solo guys handicaps and don't play like a complete dick
Anyone with a phantom is instantly on my shit list though

I don't invade for fun, I invade to remind hosts that this is not co-op souls 3

>PCucks are scared that they finally realized how dead and shit PC Souls is
>/d-d-dsg/ is dying guys!!!
nope, just you PCucks

the moment all you cancers die off, /dsg/ can go back to ps4 only and included bloodborne and it will flourish forever since it has 5 games to discuss and all are active

I am sure you are very successful too

Yeah, I mean, I'll do the whole honour duel thing if a host is alone, but more often than not I end up switching to invader mindsetq and legging it anyway because the way of blue dinner bell rang and now I get to cuck darkmoons instead.

I prefer BB's combat system but Ds3 offers more opportunity to be a dick in invading. Worst you can do in BB is gunspam, messenger's gift cannon or beast roar someone off a cliff.

I actually am

I'm no saint riot, but I can hold my own against a 4v1 ganksquad.

>no namebrah stream today

This and the fact that most host are contemptuous little shitpipes. I don't even particularly have trouble with ganksquads and I win most of my invasions, but damned if they don't go out of their way to ensure winning is the dullest, most mechanical face imaginable.

Here's a play-by-play of the average invasion in DaS3 currently
>4 man squad campign the bonfire
>host has a straightsword and a shield
>host hides behind shield and strafes, constantly backpedalling from you
>kill phantom
>host now spams roll in circles around bonfire waiting for the sign to reappear
>kill all phantoms
>host refuses to fight or defend themselves, rolls repeatedly in circles desperately tagging signs
>every time they're rollcaught, they panicroll and chug
>this continues until they run out of estus
>even when every single roll is punished one after another, they don't change their roll timing or try anything different, they just perform the exact same action with the exact same timing on autopilot until they die
And then an invite to a steamgroup.
It gets boring after a while because it feels like you're playing against goddamn bots. There's no reaction or response, just mindless, automatic repetition and some vague prayer that enough bodies thrown against their intruder will magically restore homeostasis to their gameworld without costing them 1 precious ember or demanding they actually play. I can almost hear the chorus of autistic screeching through every invasion.

Fuck off with this console war bullshit.
And I never want /bbg/ to merge with this general because /bbg/ is comfy and this thread is a shitpit where fags constantly argue over which game is superior to the others.

>PCuck sockpuppeting pretending to be a PS4theAlphas
only PCucks argue about which game is superior because they're autistic

How am I supposed to defend against whips and daggers without any poise?

Try rolling.

>The current state of /bbg/
>comfy

Is there a benefit using Chikage over Bloodletter?

Great Weapons: You don't
Any other weapon: Spacing and attack timing, plus hyperarmour

Tis the most comfy general by far

How am I supposed to attack if I'm rolling all the time?

How am I supposed to use hyperarmor if I can't get close enough to hit them with my great club?

Chikage got more DPS and rapid poison. Backdraw: Chikage is anime AF.

OK I REALLY can't decide

for PVP is it better to be able to kill fast or be hard to kill?

glass cannon or tank?

Daggers hard counter greathammers

Any true combo on the Ringed Knight SS?

Neither, you need both for different circumstances.

Don't be retarded.

Chikage will do more damage across a full stamina bar of R1s. Its benefits are mainly the fact that it's incredibly stamina efficient for its damage per hit, and extremely fast with pure R1 mashing.

Unzips are also extremely good, particularly because they generally kill players in 2 hits and have really good range.

Bloodletter has that incredibly strong dash attack as well as its L2. Generally better moveset but it's not going 2-shot players with any of its quick attacks.

Also the bloodletter costing a chunk of health to transform means you generally have less access to your firearm. With the Chikage, you swap modes constantly to abuse unzips, so your access to your gun isn't limited at all.

Arena=/=invasion=/=invaded
All PvP types are different

No SL meta builds are really hard to kill though, difference between 30-40 VIG is a couple of extra hits at most. Depends if your build requires those hits or not

What dagger are people r2/l2 spamming with in the arena? Whats it called?

what's the strongest pve build in das2?