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>damage resistance gives more effective health than a heavy
>speed boost gives faster movement speed than a scout
>immediately drops afterburn and bleed upon activation
>immunity to afterburn makes pyros unable to ignite you for 3 seconds
>no blink upon taking damage means that players get no visual feedback if they hit you
>halved duration on jarate, mad milk, afterburn and bleed
>ready to use again in 10 to 20 seconds, even potentially even less by grabbing an ammo box
>destroyed building parts still give you tons of cloak back, allowing you to refill almost immediately
>can easily escape airblasts due to tough break changes
>the proposed nerf will just make spies head wherever they want as they have no incentive to head towards ammo packs
Seriously, how do you counter this thing?

Post nostalgia

Post more Cap-tan qts

If I recall a couple of months ago some user tried to kill himself by jumping from a building or bridge or something. It aprantly didn't work and he was laid up with broken bones and a bruised ego or something

I wish there was an Dab taunt in TF2 so that I can dab on the haters.

Holy fuck, same

what if they dab back?

Just fucking shoot the spy.

The servers shut down temporarily over all that heat

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>enemy team does heavy rush on payload offense
>tell the team that demoman pocketed by kritzkrieg medic counters this
>nobody listens to my advice
>instead we get 4 snipers constantly failing to hit any of the heavies
>cart constantly moves at max speed all of the way to the end of the track

Tutorials on how to not suck at the game, when?

I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GAL
AND THESE... ARE MY BOOBS
THEY WEIGH ONE HUNDRED FIFTY KILOGRAMS AND LACTATE THREE LITERS A MINUTE
IT TAKES FOUR HOURS OF STIMULATION TO PRODUCE FIFTY LITERS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fapping to this

my dead ringer nerf:
spy still can fake death
but
it's like tfc where you can't move and you are the corpse.

youtube.com/watch?v=9uqSaoVG7B4

You become your ragdoll and can surf explosions to distant areas

There already are, it's called training mode vs. bots. No one fucking uses it.

Fapping to this

I'd personally suggest this
>Damage resistance on triggering of Dead Ringer increased from 75% to 80%
>Linear declining damage resistance during the first 3 seconds changed from 65% -> 20% over 3 seconds to 80% -> 20% over 3 seconds
These buffs are in pic related.
>Removed afterburn immunity during the first 3 seconds of cloak (still drops afterburn upon triggering DR)
>if the cloak is ended early, the speed boost ends with it
>decreased cloak gained from metal boxes from -35% to -50%

hot

>nerfing the spy
just get good

how bout the spy get gud

i have had to deal with so many fucking bad spies today who just decimate my entire team while i'm completely aware of them, but i'm playing shit like engineer or medic so i can barely do anything about it. if i see one more dead ringer or diamondback today i'm going to flip my shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=iuhiBR_E1zs

just listen for the decloak bro :^)

Both of the players in this video are bad. Why would you ever tunnel vision this hard on a single DR spy running back to spawn? Why doesn't the spy just shoot the engineer?

>ha ha just ignore him bro :^)

He's running back toward his team, the engineer is alone. He lucked out in that he didn't encounter one of the spy's teammates until he was already way back at their spawn, but he still overextended like an idiot.

"I really wanted to kill him" and "I didn't think it'd go on for so long" and "I didn't notice my team had capped causing the spawns to change"

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Better response from an actually competent player with more knowledge of TF2 than you will ever have

>Muh teleporter
>On a ledge where it can't be sapped
>My teammates don't exist
>Because this map has poor design, the DR is OP and spies are unkillable
>I'm going to keep making excuses for being a bad who overextends so I can tunnelvision this one spy

Haha, now Uncle Dane is something to care about.

Literally whom?

DR will and always will be a crutch babby tool for pants shitters.

This. It's also a minor annoyance at best. Literally just fucking shoot the spy.

Did you see that video? He did exactly what you said.

He didn't shoot the spy enough. Being that bad at engineer using stock shotgun over rescue ranger is just sad.

That's the problem, shooting him only does minor damage. People don't use the DR for getting away, they use it as a shield to protect them from taking damage so they can immediately try whatever stupid plan they were trying again, and because the DR offers such massive damage resistence, it means they win almost any battle of attrition.

he should have popped his dr and moved on with his life not chase him for half the map like a dumb retard

shoot at it until it dies

I never said DR didn't have bad design, but if you can't deal enough damage to kill him in one go, don't bother chasing and wait for him to come back on your flank. Also, plenty of classes deal enough damage to kill a DR spy in a few hits, the health boost doesn't mean that much when most weapons will do ~100 point blank.

This. He got baited hard, and complaining about the DR when you play like a retard is, well it's retarded.

Also, the video is set in one of the worst maps in-game. The main problem is that there are large ammo packs scattered everywhere on Barnbiltz(and most other payload maps) which makes both sentry and DR spam a breeze. Don't shit on the DR without also shitting on the garbage map design that allows DR spies to excel where they clearly shouldn't.

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>I can't form my own opinion so I'm going to repeat what this Literal Whotuber says instead
Fuck off. Barnblitz has bad map design, that engineer got baited hard, and the counter to the dead ringer will always be to just shoot the spy and let your team know that there's a spy around so people who are respawning can deal with him if he slips behind while you focus on the objective at hand.

Popping a Spy's DR means you have one of two options

1. Drop everything you're doing so you can properly track him and end his life
2. Ignore him and allow him to get easy kills on some less attentive retard on your team

>The class that punishes your team for having retards shouldn't punish your team for having retards
What's stopping a stock IW/CnD spy from picking off retards and your teleporter? Isn't that what spy is supposed to do in the first place? DR doesn't help with this as much as you seem to think it does, it just makes retarded spies surf ammo packs.

>Ignore him and allow him to get easy kills on some less attentive retard on your team that don't do anything meaningful regardless if they are alive or not
survival of the fittest

>dr spy running diamondback and big earner

10 minutes until the update everyone!!!!!!!!

In 10 minutes it will be 5 PM on the west coast. The window has passed, friend.

5 PM is when they release all of their update, right? RIGHT?
JUST 5 MORE MINUTES GUYS!!

When are they bringing back the TF2 beta?

does geel the gew still actually lurk here?

He used to tripfag here.

>What's stopping a stock IW/CnD spy from picking off retards and your teleporter?

Gee I dont know, could be the DR trivializes being caught

Yes, but someone who knows how to use an actual cloak likely won't be caught as well.

JUST 50 MORE MINUTES FRIENDS IT'S FINALLY GOING TO HAPPEN IN JUST 50 MINUTES IS EVERYONE READY???

lol

We're not having this argument again, put your trip back on

>teamfortresss.com tabs are still broken and they haven't fix it yet

really makes you think

Simply epic.

also why isn't there an rss feed specifically for updates like the other Valve games have

they're so hard at work on the update they don't even have time for sleep you think they can waste time on some stupid tabs you should be thanking them

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GUYS GUYS

what if they were trying to make a blogpost for the Pyro update but screwed up the website as well, they'll fix it tomorrow when they finally post the Pyro/Jungle blogpost

>tumblr
Would you kindly kill yourself

sorry you got so worked up by a filename, user
maybe you should head there and learn some coping skills

What's wrong with browsing Tumblr?

I wouldn't put it past them to have broken the blog for no reason.

only little kids looking for porn and angry teenage girls browse it

tumblr is the only mainstream website that i would describe as evil. like yeah, reddit is terrible, but they haven't tried to get anyone killed yet. i think.

reddit does that all the time you poser

HOW TO FIX THIS PIECE OF SHIT (SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO):

Spy gets one feign per life. Maybe more than one, but either way it's limited and can't be restored until death.

there is literally nothing wrong with fucking horses

Tumblr tried to kill someone, what?

only little kids looking for porn and angry teenage boys browse Veeky Forums, what's your point?

I feign per backstab

dead ringer fix
>no cloak
>gives instant respawns

I agree. The horses don't seem to mind.

are you implying there is nothing wrong with Veeky Forums

Remember Mr. Hands? I think Horses would mind

Why's everything gotta have balloon tits?

That could just work. But we all know valve will never do it

I guess valve's proposed nerf is ok though

because flat chest likes are actually gay

Huge tits are gross and overrated, DFC will forever be where it's at.

(((Geel))) is busy counting the donation money from Crap.tf while masturbating to pony porn

Game theory: the tf team will release the update a week after i61

game theory: pyro is a gay man

every time i do even a little bit well it's like this. and i got like 3 actual hackers kicked today.

where are the cap-tan qts I requested

>playing Heavy
>as expected spies hone in on me because I'm a big powerful target who moves slow and must often tunnel at my targets
>frequently looking behind me gets rid of them though and I can resume my business if I'm diligent
>but wait, the Spy has a watch that makes it so even if I catch him he can just round a corner, pick up an ammo box and try again
>now instead of dying when caught he just harasses me constantly with no real cooldown or punishment
>I must now look behind me 24/7 all match rather than occasionally because Spy is now not a subterfuge class, he's an immortal Scout who instantly kills me
>this means either his team can mob up on me or ambush me while I'm constantly on swivel for him, or Spy can ambush me while I fight his team
>he can pretty much farm me all game for points if I don't ignore the objective and watch out for him
>and because it apparently never gets old trying I will genuinely have to do this for fifteen fucking minutes or change classes
>unlike Sniper I don't have a backstab counter, unlike Soldier I can't just rocket jump around, or out-run him as Scout
>no, because I am the slow power class with no mobility other than a pair of gloves that kill me I am now totally shut down by Spy
>yet people will defend the Dead Ringer

And if the first thought in your head was "stop playing Heavy, he's shit" then you missed the point entirely. No item in the game totally shuts down a class as bad as the Dead Ringer shuts down Heavy, it's horrible design.

Don't forget

>Heavy must hang around ammo boxes or pick up enemy ones
>Spy can steal all of these

danger shield completely shuts down snipers, but i get where you're coming from.

t. bad that thinks the game is constantly 1v12

>you have to queue up or constantly inform your braindead 12 year old teammates to watch your back for you in order to counter a single fucking item
that's stupid and you're also stupid

Danger Shield is also a Sniper weapon, and also adds actual weaknesses to other non-Sniper weapons, and doesn't counter fully charged headshots

> No item in the game totally shuts down a class as bad as the Dead Ringer shuts down Heavy, it's horrible design.
lmao

>Literally everyone who plays TF2 except me is 12 years old and also bad at the game
You're really calling me the stupid one here? If you make no attempt to communicate or collaborate with your team, is it really not your fault that you get shut down so easily?

>pubs are shit, never rely on teammates and just get good
>it's not 1 vs. 12, talk and cooperate with your team and just get good

Go back to /s4s/ with this horrible braindead posting

>Standing still to get a fully charged headshot on a DDS sniper
literal death sentence. stop posting any time. If you're sitting around waiting for your headshots to fully charge constantly, you're shit at sniper.