/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

>DISTANT WOLRDS : UNIVERSE
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Based spider OP

How useful/interesting are these things?
Is there anything which I've missed or which is still confusing?
Is there anything I've got horribly wrong and I'm misleading people like a giant faggot?

>tripfag likes spiderfag

I like spiderbro too.

I want to circlejerk with spiderfag too.

Bro weed lmao

In CIV5 BNW, when doing ICS, what is your favorite approach?

I find Egypt to be incredibly powerful.

Personally I go this route roughly:
>Pottery for shrine
>If enough of other plays seems to want to be religious: Yolo on stonehenge
Then
>Get settler policy in liberty, then open piety and get the two tier1 policies, then finish liberty, then finish piety.

For religion I do
>Goddess of Love = +1 Happiness from cities with Population of 6+
>Church Property = +2 Gold for each City following this religion (Helps economic stress of rapid settling and roads)
>Mosques & Pagodas = 3 Happiness, 5 Faith, 4 culture per city
>Itinerant Preachers = Religion spreads to cities 30% further away (Once you convert 1 or 2 cities, it snowballs to ALL of your cities very fast).

The reason for the Pantheon is that your temple replacement (Burial Tomb) gives 2 happiness as well. So 2 From temple, 3 From religious buildings. With 5 happiness free citizens at no money cost (Burial tomb has no maintance, religious buildings cost faith), then you get 1 more because of your pantheon.

So this, with policies, allows you to have cities with 6 people costing only 2 unhappiness for city and then 0 for people.

I've manage to settle 9 or more cities before turn 100. Usually they all have between 3 and 6 people too. When I do this, I also have positive gold and happiness.

Pic is screen-cap from a consistent result of the strategy.

first for spiderbro cheering

>first
Yeah, well, sorry about that...

well at least we're all cheering for spiderbro

I'm not

There's always a contrarian.

No there isn't.

Which games have the best economy, management - etc which really keep you focused on that sort of stuff?

I'd say Startopia, but it's a personal taste.
Supreme Commander put a lot of emphasis on economy too.

Age of Empires 2

football manager 2012

>those ugly regen faces
No thanks

Something similiar, but with either Spain (easy mode) or Byzanthium (hard as balls mode), all in Diety difficulty, where getting a religion is almost impossible until you roll a good faith start.
Anyway, by just getting the religion i go:
>Whatever pantheon gives the most faith early depending on the start
>Tithe (much better on the medium-long term)
>Mosques Pagodas and Cathedrals with byzantium, the former two with Spain
>Missionary cost reduction
The result is similiar to yours with Egypt, but a bit worse. Mainly because i have to spend even more faith on a third religious building for only very slightly better returns than Egypt Unique Building. I do find the missionary cost reduction essential though, once you get rolling with the ICS you gain a buttload of faith and with missionaries you can immediatly set up a city for religious purchases instead of waiting for it to spread.

Did i mention playing Byzanthium at Diety has proven to be the hardest game yet? Good luck getting a religion before the others eat up all the best beliefs, better restart son.

disable them

>Anyone here plays Dominions
I tried it a few times but never got into it.

What do you usually prefer?
Simpler stuff, or better looking stuff?

I play most other strategy games, Civ/ES/Paradox etc. but just never got into Dominions for some reason. Maybe it just didn't feel very intuitive. Should have read some guides I suppose.
And I like better looking games I guess. Complexity doesn't bother me as much.

Ha, if it's graphisms, then yeah, can't help you.
For the rest, Dominions is very frustrating because there's no real competitive scene, so there's no real guide to follow. Everything depends from the situation and your own playstyle.

what are some good map pack and where to get them for civ v that work with voc populi?

The closest thing to a competitive scene is /v/anheim the steam group or /domg/ on this very board.

Try the steam workshop. That's what I did

and for pirates?

?

It should work with other mods, it will just be completely unbalanced depending on what you use. I know I used other mods with it when it was called CPP.

youtu.be/D7uuz0RW_z8

You guys seen this?

Does Vox Pop work in MP? And thoughts on NQmod. Is one recommended over the other for a specific use case?

Capitalism gone wrong. Or very right if you are the guy who can afford war bonds.

Don't map scripts and custom worlds just get treated like mods?
Just drop them in the mod folder and enable them on start.
Or does this not work in every case, or specificaly not with vox?

I'm not sure, I'll give it a try

Very unstable in MP, not worth the hassle.

Should i do it /cbg/?

You better record it

new to 4x a week ago I got age of wonder 3 on special and have been playing it since I want to play as a peaceful empire but no AI ever accepts peace treaty until you destroy 80% of city

tldr: is there a game with more fleshed out diplomacy then aow 3

Do it faggot

Destroy what?

Pfff... Honestly, outside of grand strategy games, diplomacy is usually very basic in strategy games.

What space games have a lot of freedom but focus on a single unit? Sorta like Spore did it on space stage.

Even if if's not themed in space, I would just like to know more games like that.

what grand strategy games do you suggest?

btw I hate reading wall of text so keep it modern

Stellaris
Starpoint Gemini Warlords

im doing it bois im gonna fucking do it

Beyond Sol, Space Pirates and Zombies, the Space Rangers game, Freelancer...
Finding strategy games focused on a single unit will be harder, probably X3, Starpoint Gemini, Evochron Mercenary...

Honestly, I'm not sure. Obviously Paradox's games (Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings) have some deep diplomacy. Avoid Stellaris, tho. Maybe Distant Worlds as well, but it's skippable, it can be resumed to "don't kill me while I kill everyone else".
Otherwise, the Last Federation is all about diplomacy, including keeping two races from killing each others.

WAIT, YOU MEANT THE DAM?

DON'T DO IT!

shieeeeeeeet

The Last Federation is 100% focused on a single ship too

Why do I see people here still talk about Civ V but there's barely any discussion about Civ VI? Is Civ VI garbage or what?

NO

Yep, the water god needs his sacrifices

>some nigger got thirsty so he flooded an entire city

yes

Yeah, but it's not really strategy, it's more of a shmup with diplomacy. I was under the impression wanted a lot of freedom, and TLF is kinda limited, since most of the stuff is text.

WORSE THAN HITLER

City of the Dammed

fuck you

That was good.

I think there's just a couple of fags playing VP.

With Civ VI there's not really much to talk about.

webm soon

Ye I just want to think constantly, not just be amazed by colors but in retrospective realize that I was just doing a routine while pressing 3 big colored buttons that had indicators around them, I like that type of freedom where you can think and have impact and options ... and so on.

youtube.com/watch?v=Cs0jlbWqpMc related.

You wouldn't like TLF. Even bloody Star Control 2 would be more up your alley.

behold

Weird how colourful the city looks at night. You'd think after that wave, it would look washed out.

I like the water physic.
But damn, that was a lot of water for a small river.

Civ 6 has some great ideas and improvements that really set the foundation for a good game. But its just a foundation. Without expansions or a big fucking mod or something its fucking content scarce there aren't many civs to play as you dont have a lot of ways to customize your empire, era based mechanics like world congress, ideologies etc aren't present.

yeah, the roads don't seem to be affected by water, it's a shame
>small river
it's a fuckhuge lake after i dammed it

good job user

now you must do the same but with a waste dump

good idea

...

so this is what it feels to get blacked

JUST

...

>driving towards the flood

This fucking guy....

last one

I hope you feel horrible.

Leader skills are being changed so that everybody starts out at 1* and you can go up to 10* depending on your government/etc.

Missiles are getting buffed.

Authoritarian governments are getting an influence buff, and there's a new feudal civic to encourage vassal play.

The robot DLC that I assume you'll be pirating at the same time introduces robotic hiveminds. They have mechanical traits instead of biological traits, which the fans think is different somehow. Play is expected to emphasize resettlement.

but user
i want to flood the world

If you wanted it you should have put an outpost on it.

It's bretty gud/10

lmao
>can't ask them to not settle there
>only option is to go to war
>abandon settlement
>equivalent to genociding billions of people
>everyone hates you forever
the absolute state of diplomacy in stellaris

Diplomacy in Stellaris is absolutely fucking shit that I have basically no reason not to genocide the everliving shit out of everything that isn't my empire.

How many stars are in our galaxy and when can we expect a pc powerful enough to simulate it in stellaris without lag?

>How many stars are in our galaxy
Imagine the biggest number you can think of.
Then multiply it by 1 000.

>when can we expect a pc powerful enough to simulate it in stellaris without lag
In 20 years.

So close to infinite then ?
But 20 years isn't that far.

100 billion stars. The Clausewitz Engine, which Stellaris and Hearts of Iron 4 run on, will never be able to support that size of galaxy, not that it would be fun anyway.

>How many stars are in our galaxy
1000000000000.
Enjoy your billion years game.

Nothing is infinite.

my love for you is

the energy required to accelerate an object to the speed of light is infinite

I think I hear Flash laughing.