I want to live a long and fulfilling life at Fernando's side!
Ian Harris
>buy cassie's demon hunter skin because its on sale >am absolutely shit at cassie >cant land a shot after dodge rolling >her attacks are slow so I cant spray and pray
Is she a high skill level champ? I should have taken kitty cat, at least that one looks cute and doesnt make me feel like shit as I play
>tfw random GM joins a diamond/platinum game >tfw it's Kronicx from Kanga >tfw he gets Cassie (Mastery level 16) >tfw thank the fucking lord he was on your team
POTG was him 1v3ing the enemy team at full health, and that was super exciting to watch too.
Colton Taylor
...
Isaac Reyes
Ain't Haydz a pro too?
Benjamin Cruz
Maeve is a high skill champ too, but unlike Cassie her kit isn't good, so she's even more pointless to play if you aren't good.
If you're garbage at videogames but still want to contribute, play a tank. That's literally why they exist.
Ethan Ross
She's hard to master but remember that if you learn how to play her right, she's one of the most letal damage champions out there, if not the best one.
Connor Parker
Remember /palag/ every time you're feeling bad or down, just think "what would grover do?"
Luke Garcia
How do we unfuck Maeve, lads? She can either shitstomp or be useless as is right now.
I'm open to suggestions gentlemen.
Hunter Wilson
tree puns do not help with my depression
Aiden Bailey
Remove.
Landon Diaz
Throwing axes at people seems like it might cause more problems
Ryan Sanchez
I'd add another skill like pounce that does helps her line up her shots
Chase Lewis
>implying most games aren't lost by having shitty frontlines or healers
Juan Evans
make her projectiles fire simulatenously and be overall less shitty her LMB is so unecessarily awkward and retarded
Angel Peterson
Remember, whenever you feel suicidal, tell yourself 'i will not die, not yet amigo'. End of PSA.
Joseph Roberts
That only works for like 15 seconds though
Thomas Sullivan
Yeah he is
Hudson Bennett
then just post "GLORY TO FERNANDO"
Daniel Morales
For most frontlines and healers, if someone does badly as them, it's safe to assume that they're effectively braindead and subhuman. Ash, Fernando, Barik, Torvald. None of these require aim, you literally just hold m1 in the general direction of the enemy to deal damage. Same can be said for most healers, they can just press a button and they're doing their job. It's true that they still have some distance between their skill floor and skill ceiling, but since the floor is so insanely low, there's no reason not to pick them if you can't aim.
Daniel Hernandez
I do fine with those except Barik, I don't understand how you're supposed to deal damage with him
Daniel Myers
>buy Fernando body pillow >hug it tight >i will not cry, not yet amigo >cry anyway
Matthew Fisher
>what is mal'damba?
Brandon Gonzalez
Buy morale boost. Spam that shit. GLORY TO FERNANDO
Samuel Morris
i just realised that this game and sims use the same artstyle meaning that my cute trap vampire wouldnt look out of place at all
Luke Torres
Make a loadout that buffs turrets, pick architectonics, dance around the point
Logan Fisher
Like I said, literally just look in the general direction of the enemy and fire, and don't forget to place turrets whenever they're off cooldown. It may not feel like you're doing a lot of damage, but the damage you are doing is constant and makes a difference, especially if you're hitting another frontline with huge hitboxes so more of your pellets hit them. Buy caut too, so you can just keep applying it nonstop to everyone around you. If your aim is particularly good, you can take tinkerin and do even more damage, but the turret legendary is great too especially against squishy high-mobility teams.
Notice how I said "most healers" instead of "all healers", damba is the exception and my favorite healer as a result.
Luke Myers
Fernando body pillows are 10/10 idea, but we also need real plushie Makoa, plushie BK bombs, and BK bath bombs that smell like carnage.
Bentley Williams
Cool story, bronze shitter, but with Barik you need a really good aim with tinkering, better than one required for Cassie. Nando require a really good positioning and aim to hit multiperson fireballs most of the time and ash overall require you hitting direct hits all the time while holding lmb 24/7 to be worth picking. Torv is literally trash character so he's not worth picking at all no matter how braindead he is.
Angel Reyes
>I never played healer or support and don't know how to play them on higher elo Sad!
Benjamin Nelson
And onaholes for all the girls for scientific reasons and definitely not sexual ones
Liam Bennett
>the iq of tank main Laughable
Nolan Nguyen
Literally all my team has to do is stay alive till I win the 1v1 then I can snowball to victory
Henry Jackson
I'm not a bronze shitter like you so I don't "main" anything.
Jason Martin
I think you're both missing the point. I'm arguing that their skill floor is low, not their ceiling. It's true that you can be a better frontline with more skill and experience, but if you're a shitter it's much easier to contribute as a tank.
Austin Clark
>hitting a direct hit with ash require skill Whatever help you sleep at night, buddy.
Caleb Taylor
Because viktor, tyra and the other 99 flank and damage champions who only shoot shoot shoot shoot the whole match are much more complex to play, right?
Thomas Gutierrez
I am a literal god.
Noah Murphy
I can play any role except Flankers. Can I get Flanker tips? For example do I ignore Frontlines and focus on enemy Damage?
Jacob Jenkins
They are, yes. If you just walk into the fight like a retard as a damage or flank you'll get destroyed and are just feeding the enemy free credits. If you do it as a tank you can at least sit on the point a bit and deal some damage before you die, and if you're playing a healer you have no reason to even do it because you can just sit back and press your designated healing button.
Carson Gutierrez
you're a good rock mom
Jeremiah Barnes
>doesupz Wew lad, nice job.
Kayden Williams
Not any easier than other projectile weapons? you dumb shitter, and you need to do it consistently. Damage difference between good ash and trash one can be of 3 or 4 times.
Jackson Cruz
Oh shit, that whole time I thought CoreLian was playing Lian so I was focusing her. Turns out it was just some shitter and he was on Jenos, whoops. Thank god for that, we really would've lost if that were the case.
Jackson Taylor
>find backline's weakspot >able to dance around with your mobilty and still hit shots >go in, kill, go out >poke when you can't do anything
Ian Miller
Use your turrets (use them well, don't leave them open unless its intentional to create pressure, if you think it'll die instantly, don't place it there, out of direct line of sight is very sneaky and will get you more kills then you'd expect.), buff them up, use Tinkerin if you can aim and use Architechtonics until you can't. Focus on staying alive and being as annoying as possible. Barik is probably the most consistent champion in the game. You can carry in low skill games and create a lot of pressure for your team in high skill games. Tinkerin can pretty much win your fights if you can get two shots off on a low HP cap champion. Pretty much never a bad pick.
Really just play him a lot,
Andrew Evans
>fast >huge hit box >kit made for close/mid range combat And it even detonates for you ffs, tank main everyone.
Thomas Brooks
I'd rather have tank mains in my games tbqh. Most damage and flank mains are braindead.
Jason Barnes
Does wrecker and caut apply to Barik's turrets as well?
Caleb Smith
Most tank mains are braindead too, you just don't notice because even braindead players can do well as tanks
Lincoln Gutierrez
How to fix Zhin: >Remove the delay after his counter ends before he can activate another skill or attack >Make whirl aimable into the air like Maeve's pounce
Bentley Johnson
No
Anthony Hill
How to fix Zhin: >remove him from the game >permaban anyone who played him for more than 10 matches
Colton Phillips
You don't seem to understand what DIRECT HIT means, bronze piece of shit.
Anthony Kelly
My heart belongs to her. I want to make her happy for the rest of my days, I want to see that beautiful smile as much as I can. She is simply perfect.
Connor Ramirez
>be me >first pick fernando >second player picks ruckus >okay, every good >third player picks viktor >uhm okay? >fourth player pick androxus >ehhhh >fifth player picks skyle >we lost 4-0 >during the match fourth and fifth player won't stop complaining that it's my fault that we lose because me and ruckus weren't trying to capture >this was on competitive >diamond 2 competitive levels
Are all flank players fucking mentally challenged or what?
Parker James
What the problem with Zhin? He's actually one of the few flanks that are actually useful in the game.
Noah Morales
>he doesn't like angry whirly man of invincibility
get a load of this chap
I really hope they buff Ying soon, so many shitters play her There's no easier way to lose a match than by picking Ying when the enemy team has an actual support hero The difference in power levels between the top 3 supports and the bottom 3 supports is absolutely disgusting
Brody Evans
IT'S A 8 GAMES LOSING STREAK NOW LADS HAHA
Brayden Scott
Counter Zhin is by far the biggest cancer in the game. A good Zhin player is literal hell to play against, if you shoot him he uses one of the two abilities that makes him invincible, if you ignore him he comes back 5 seconds later to kill you.
Isaac Lopez
Why the fuck is Evie allowed to shoot and move before the duration of iceblock runs out (like a split second before) but if you shoot her while she's getting out she's still immune
Aaron Kelly
>Ying can now place Illusions through walls Did I fix Ying?
Brayden Collins
How about some real argument instead of projecting for once.
Jose Rivera
Take a break.
Austin Williams
>pick frontline >last pick doesn't pick support but instead Andro >uhhh user why didn't you pick a healer? >you won't need a healer if the enemy is already dead >goes 4-17
Isaiah Evans
You forgot one important problem her healing output and smart application is hilariously bad She could be literally invincible and place clones across the map and she'd still be terrible
Christian Foster
Just don't shoot at him and chase him while he us on cd.
Jacob Martin
>dude just do exactly what Zhin wants you to do do while his team takes the point
Cooper Reed
Move out of latam you masochist bastard.
Grayson Collins
Who here also Strix pistol only?
Adam Richardson
Fair enough, I think the problem lies within Lifelike being absolute shit. They need to redesign that card badly.
Luis Green
>wait out the counter and don't shoot him >he hits you a couple times then uses billow to run away with movespeed bonus >if you still manage to chase him he can just hit you a few more times, use whirl to make himself harder to hit, etc >by the time you manage to get his health low, counter will be off cooldown >repeat
Not to mention that, while this all happens, he's keeping you (and possibly more players) busy while his team either kills you or just takes the point.
Jackson Rodriguez
>it's another plat and goldshitters get matched against diamond and mastercucks episode
Juan Nguyen
>"I can get us out of here alive. Stay close and follow my lead."
Gavin Jackson
Does it seem like inara can counter fernando really well? Or is it just me?
Xavier Reyes
IT'S 9 NOW HEHE
Hudson Morris
It's just you No single champ counters fernando
Colton Jones
>server shit itself and 3 of the enemy team are bots Running max LCK is the only way to win at life.
Noah Williams
I wish it was on latin american servers...
Brody Moore
ying's ass can counter fernando pretty well
Evan Long
*spin behind u *hook u out of shield Psssh nothing personnel kid
Benjamin Johnson
drogoz counters him in everything but the ult
Ethan Diaz
*turns immediately around* *blocks hook* heh.....
Matthew Bailey
Now that I think about it, fernandos lance and fireballs dont do enough damage to kill her quickly enough With the wardens field legendary fernando is fucked and is forced to sheild once inside it
Jace Davis
>play casual payload >whole team is unranked players >enemy team is 4 gold 1 silver >win 100%/35% So this is the power... of competitive players... woah...
Tyler Collins
>who here can't aim for shit Sorry bro but I'd rather shoot somebody for 1.4-2k first and then switch to pistol.
Caleb Howard
I got around 120k healing in a ~17 minute game recently. Her healing isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but it's definitely not as strong as the top supports. I should note my team had a Flanknando and Barik that I babysat, and it was on Ice Mines. I didn't check if they took rejuvenate though. The problem with buffing her healing is an inevitable power creep among supports. I don't know if I'd rather have that, or the best supports getting their healing adjusted down. The one thing I don't understand is what Raynday said about Ying not getting more heals because her playstyle is simple so her healing is proportional to that, but then introduce Jenos, who can heal through walls, go sanic speed on a whim, do decent damage and just put his mark on people and forget. It's essentially the same "put down and it does the work for you" philosophy but Jenos has better numbers and wallhacks just because. And don't even make me talk about void grip on top of it.
Lucas Taylor
I mean... sometimes I use the sniper to get extra pistol damage if that helps
David Martin
This so much, I guess he isn't a problem if you have a well coordinated team, but that isn't a realistic expectaition outside of a pro match, he is very anti-fun.
Luke Hall
>pick ruckus >jump over fernando shield and headshot him in the aire >you can even land on his head and keep shooting >buy wreker >you don't even need to jump over him anymore
Aaron Hill
>hirez thought giving a stealth sniper 1300 DPS is ok And his pistol is great too.
Kayden Lopez
>using crack shot legendary ever are you sub2k?
Michael Jones
>*shoulders bash into precipice* What did she mean by this?
Xavier King
>he doesn't use only pistol cards on Strix I'm unranked btw I mainly do it for the meme value, the same reason I mainly play Buck
Alexander Wilson
>new hero is obnoxious classic Hirez, he'll be okay in 1-2 patches
Camden Fisher
I used to play buck all the time, then I tried bk for a change and I realized just how weak he is, he still is fun af though.
Benjamin Foster
Bruh, he's got 2000 health. He's got shit mobility, shit range, middling damage, and there's an animation delay in Billow. You can literally just blow him up if your team is watching for him.
Counter? Don't shoot him. Congrats he has no self-healing. Smolder? Congrats, blow him up twice instead of just once. Andro and Evie are both far harder to kill than he is.
The reason he's so shit is that his skill floor and skill ceiling are like 1 inch apart. His fire animations take years, all of his abilities lock you into them, and his mobility is shit - which means you can't react properly to anything. You're locked into easily predictable patterns, and there's no way around it. The only way you're pulling a sick play with him is if the enemy team reacts extremely slowly, constantly walks off on their own, and always stays on ground level.
Brandon Turner
Maybe this was just to get people to stop complaining about Zhin and Lian