Is a motorcycle safer if you don't get hit? You know, with it having nearly perfect visibility and all

Is a motorcycle safer if you don't get hit? You know, with it having nearly perfect visibility and all..

I'm trying to pitch letting me buy one to my parents

What?

I'm not sure how you can reason that into being an argument

Just wait until you move out.

no because you'll end up with all the other crotchrocket cocksuckers weaving traffic and lane splitting at double the limit then cry nobody watches for you in cars

Motorcycles are dangerous and your parents know that. Mistakes happen on the road, even for experienced drivers. You can be driving perfectly and still get into an accident because of someone else. Nearly everyone gets into an accident of some kind if you've been driving long enough. In a car it usually does not cause injury, and on a bike it usually involves disfigurement/death.

>Is a motorcycle safer if you don't get hit?
No. Motorcycle riders, on average, get about 7-8 times as much injuries as a car driver per million miles traveled. Fatalities are much worse, motorcyclists are 30+ times as likely to die in an accident. You can mitigate this risk by:
>Not being old (old people on big bikes equals more accidents and more damage in said accidents)
>Not drinking on your bike
>Not speeding
>Not riding a supersport, which are really tempting to speed on (4x higher fatality rate compared to regular motorcycles)
>Wearing a helmet
>Wearing your gear (ATGATT)
>Taking a proper training course (MSF in the US)
>Antilock Brakes (ABS)

>I'm trying to pitch letting me buy one to my parents
Don't. Motorcycling is inherently dangerous, even if you are a perfect rider it takes a single distracted Stacy in a minivan to kill you. Unless you are an adult living in your home who can consciously make a rational decision about this (without involving your parents), stick to four wheels.

t. motorcyclist.

my slightly biased view after daily commuting a motorcycle for 3-4 months:

it's both more dangerous and slightly more safe. Here's why.

more safe because:
>larger field of view
>more room to manuever because of lane splitting. you essentially have 2 extra escape routes.
>safe spots: riding in between two small cars traveling at the same speed, for example is a safe spot because they won't merge left or right and you're protected from rear enders.
>nimbleness. You can accelerate out of danger zones or away from traffic in general. Even a ninja 300 at 3/4 throttle will destroy any car which doesn't WOT (full throttle is a different story). Need to be smart with this one though, because speed can fuck you up as well.

on the flipside:
>danger spots: being the only vehicle stopped at a single left turn lane at an intersection with heavy traffic coming from behind. No buffer behind you, no safe zone to go to. filtering medium/low-speed traffic is always slightly risky because commiefornia shiboxes randomly quickly merge with no signal. Riding next to semis or large trucks is always scary because their wheels can suck you underneath them or explode or some other crazy shit. Driving down two lane stretch of road is scarier than city intersections because bumfuck old faggots make blind left turns across your lane to fuck your shit up (most common fatal accident, i think).

Be cautious, know the consequences of your actions and you'll be fine. Country riding always seemed scarier to me than urban riding. Long stretches of roads with hicks turning into backroads equals deadly collision, as opposed to being thrown over the hood of some coffee-slurping urbanite (probably wont kill you). Highways are more predictable but potentially deadlier.

>Is riding a motorcycle safer (in terms of accidents per mile traveled) because you have perfect vision etc., despite having more fatalities per mile?
That's probably what he meant.

>Crotchrockets
Not everybody rides those and not all of those riders are idiots (A lot of them are though)
>Lane splitting
Perfectly legal in most sane countries, perfectly safe if done under 20MPH and with less than 10MPH speed difference.
>Double the limit
Those guys deserve to Darwin themselves.

>In a car it usually does not cause injury, and on a bike it usually involves disfigurement/death.
Disfigurement and death is a small fraction of actual bike accidents, especially if you wear proper gear. However, the risk is indeed a lot higher than with cars, and it's significant enough to not want to ride.

>>safe spots: riding in between two small cars traveling at the same speed, for example is a safe spot because they won't merge left or right
Dear god don't ever do this. Never get yourself stuck between two cars with no way to go left or right.

> filtering medium/low-speed traffic is always slightly risky
Which means you should only do filtering at speeds below 20MPH, tops.

>motorcycles are safer because there's no safety equipment blocking your vision
leftism is a mental illness