Itt: list of the upsides and downsides of driving and the car culture in your country/state

itt: list of the upsides and downsides of driving and the car culture in your country/state

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More curvy roads than you could shake a stick at, one of the least densely populated states while being the 14th largest by landmass, downside is that the state is hilariously impoverished and the roads are shit because of it. Road salt kills cars.

upsides
>interesting hot rodding/rat rodding culture
>dry lake beds

downsides
>not a single curvy road anywhere
>terrible road quality
>arabs and chinks driving like retards in their $80k crossovers everywhere
>rampant stanceshit everywhere

Rural mid/northern Michigan

Upside
>Fire lanes

Downside
>Truck country
>Manure on roads
>Grid system
>Horrifying road qualities
>Muh 4x4
>Road salt
>Absolutely ridiculous vehicle prices due to rust tax
>High insurance
>Lol gas prices
>GM is number 1!!!!!!
>Wheel spacers & aggressive tires, no mud flaps or wheel flares
>Only one decent road course, everything else is ovals and dirt tracks

I hate this fucking state. Can't wait till June as I'm moving.

Hamilton

Upsides
>Curvy backroads
>Hamilton Nurburgring
>Huge range of exotic/modded cars

Downsides
>Potholes everywhere
>Roads are shit
>Workers don't know how to fix a pothole
>The worst drivers ever
>Speed limits are too low

E39s, E46s and E60s everywhere where car "culture" is. Cool car is now considered E36 or E30, but latter are rare. Diesel audi wagon with custom wheels and USDM running corner lights = enthusiast.

Upsides: no road tax or power tax. Or any tax in that matter.
Downsides: insurance prices skyrocketed.

upsides
>compared to other places insurance is dirt cheap
>touges
>cars with at least 30 years can be registered as "historic" and become virtually free
>you can modify the shit out of your car that nobody cares, not even the DMV
>wannabe boiracers are forbidden by law to buy anything that has more than 90bhp for the first year
>further restrictions on neo-drivers to prevent boiracing

downsides
>fuel is expensive as hell compared to other places
>engine power is directly taxed
>EU regulations on emissions are killing the automotive scenary
>since cops are cucked daily they vent on drivers, some like to abuse power
>europoor rice
>a freshly paved road lasts about 1 year
>roads are in very poor shapes most of the time

guess the country

Puerto Rico

Upsides
>Law doesn't exist unless there's a cop nearby
>Lots of scenic places to drive through
>Lots of curves in the rural areas

Downsides
>The moon has less holes than our roads
>Lots of drunk drivers during weekend nights
>People drive like they got their apprentice license yesterday
>No parking anywhere
>Public transportation is inexistent, even retards have to drive themselves here
>After the hurricane there aren't many traffic lights, you cross a road and pray to God you don't get hit by some asshole
>Sometimes you may come across an idiot riding a horse

Los Angeles

Upsides:
>Every car culture represented
>Lots of exotics/rarities to oogle
>Curvy mountain roads
>No road salt
>No rain
>Competition drives down costs on parts/labor


Downsides:
>Every car culture represented
>Registration costs through the roof
>Smogging
>Traffic, traffic everywhere
>Shitty freeway road surfaces
>High insurance costs

-there is none outside of a bunch of lone wolfs. also, greens and socialists are cucking car culture.
+still not nearly as carboncucked as benelux niggers

Ontario

Upsides
>slide like a mad cunt in the winter
>nice touring roads not too far from the GTA

Downsides
>"butt-of-the-joke" levels expensive insurance
>similar to BC in terms of phone-related tickets
>salted roads in the winter

Pittsburgh metro area
Pros:
>people actually use turn signals when changing lanes
>almost no rice or stance
>most jeeps are even stock too
>small towns have free parking, no meter bullshit
>people are reasonably safe drivers and will almost never do a hit and run

Cons:
>roads are fucking horrible
>the only time they do road work is when people actually want/need to drive on the roads
>potholes everywhere
>RWD vehicles can only be driven 3 or 4 months out of the year with weather the way it is
>even FWD cars can be dangerous, 4x4 or AWD is almost an absolute must
>statewide safety inspections that you can fail if your turn signals flash too fast or slow
>most counties also require emissions inspections
>gas costs nearly $3 a gallon no matter where you go
>if you aren't going at least 10 mph over on highways everyone will pass you
>forget about $500 craigslist beaters, none of them will pass inspection
>an inspectable running/driving shitbox will set you back $2k or more
>small towns often have one-way streets and extremely confusing intersections

Romania?

I live in north county SD right now (Carlsbad) and I'm most likely going to move to LA or at least Irvine once I finish grad school. Absolutely dreading the horrific daily traffic on the 5/405, enough to seriously consider selling my manual car and getting an auto with stop/start radar cruise.

A little bit more west

Northern Virginia/DMV

Pros:
>Fairly large car community with good variation
>Lots of tuning/performance shops around
>Good mountain roads to west/south, couple of tracks not too far away
>Roads are nice half the time
>Weather is nice half the time

Cons:
>Roads are trash half the time
>Weather is trash half the time
>Shitty fucking Virginia road laws (reckless driving tickets, inspections, no radar detectors, etc.)
>D.C. traffic
>Shit's expensive
>People drive like troglodytes

I'm surprised at how big car culture is in Virginia considering how horrific our laws are

Upsides:
Plenty of roads with plenty of variety.
Pretty low traffic.

Downsides:
No lane splitting.

>mississippi delta

Pros: some dirt and gravel
Cons: all of the pavement
everyone is a welfare queen
All offroading is illegal because all the land is owned by le 56% plantations so you better not get stuck or get caught

Ok, either Hungary or Slovakia.

georgia caucasus here
upsides
>mountain roads aka tooojs
>decent highways
>mountains again for muhh offroading
>insurance isnt mantadory
>no smogshit, there was some talk about it but i cant see it coming for at least 10 years

cons
>no actual car culture, all vapelords and le ebin parking lot drifters with diesel bimmers+///M fake stickers inb4 butthurt or v8 benz barges
>only race done is highway pulls with stock barges see above
>even tho most roads are decent, but where i live innacity asphalt is fucked, so cant dd decent car in city lol
>weather is shit 6-7/12 driving wise, otherwise i like cold climate

anyway this is how i imagine every ex eastblock country, sure there are some expensive cars and actually good drivers, but very rare

NoVA traffic is pretty cancerous, but once you leave that area into the rest of VA, everytime you go up or down 81 it's nothing but

>*blocks your path*

>Law doesn't exist unless there's a cop nearby
That's everywhere bud

Can some Czech anons weigh in? I'm moving there for a few years from London in a few months.

Welp, this shouldn't be hard

Pros:
>cops can be bros if you have a nice car
>70% drives 45-61 hp 800 kg cuckboxes, nice cars can be seen from a distance
>Nice curvy roads if you don't live in a crowded area.
>if you know the registration rules you can swap quite some shit in cars
>the golf boiracer crowd will notice and complement other cars

Cons
>retarded anual check that also checks for surface rust. Too much = fail
>retardedly high CO2 luxury tax. In eurobucks 127k mustang GT, 97k wrx sti, 54k gt86, 200k+ hellcat
>Said co2 tax will be levied if you try to import something
>expensive road taxes, esp. for diesel and lpg
>Ridiculous fuel cost
>cops hate nice exhausts. Getting caught = fine + having to get your vehicle reinspected
>Increasing number of sperging babyboomers in compact grossovers road raging at motorcycles
>normies will think a nice car is showing off

Alas, the paradox in my country; motorcycles
>You want a nice diesel commuter user? You need that (pre)cat(s), scr, DPF, think of the children user
>Wanna have a bike? Go right ahead and straight pipe it, bikes don't need inspection man, bike owners are responsible adults
>WANNA BE HEKTIK ON A 2SMOKE? YEAHHH BRUHH RENGDENGDENGDENGDENGDENG HAHA SICK MAN

>mild speeding in a car? STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
>15 kph over on a bike? Nah man you're fine

>diesel or lpg commuter? Better pay those road taxes you filthy goyim. Should've used public transport.
You better not be

mid/west MI
Ups
>Hill country, everything is touge/track in GR
>open roads at 2-4am

Downs
>rust tax
>no good cars
>bump,bump,bump,hole,road,bump,hole,bump,road

britbong

pros:
>pretty lax modification laws compared to some countries
>hektic rain skids 2/3 of the time
>rhd good for le jdm imperts
>eurocars are cheap and easy unlike burgerland
>cool racing history i guess
>speed limits are weird in a good way

cons:
>insurance kikes are out of control
>roads are garbage you either dont lower your car or you use bags
>cameras and bored coppers everywhere so no fun
>very few back roads to safely have fun on
>almost no car culture atleast where i live, seeing a car with aftermarket wheels, anything made before 2003 or a real sports car is as rare as seeing a supercar
>kinda espensive fuel
>everything rusts to dust
>dry grip only 1/3 of the time
>not many scenic places to take pretty pictures of cars
>speed limits are weird in a bad way

il probably think of more

[Alabama]
>Upsides
-No rust, ever.
-Minimal potholes
-Snows once every few years, but there are no salt trucks.
-No inspections
-No emissions laws
-Minimal police
-Minimal traffic outside of Birmingham
-Lots of curvy, hilly roads in the northern half of the state.
-Everyone (cops included) drives 70 in 55 zones.

[Downsides]
-Rednecks, rednecks everywhere
-No 'tuner' car scene other than the occasional newly-enlisted fag who won't race.

I lucked out and work about 5 miles for my apartment, and I can also begin my shift at 6 a.m. which means I avoid traffic on both ends of my little commute. I only end up in OC on the weekends so I can't really speak to traffic in Irvine.

I lived in southwest Michigan before I moved to LA and I feel like our freeways (94 mainly) are much better maintained than anything in Los Angeles. The 405 is a fuckin' washboard. Also my insurance almost doubled when I moved to LA, same levels of coverage just a new address.

Pros
>No emissions
>No inspections
>Cops don't give a fuck about anything
>Highways are dragstrips
>Can register and title literally anything with wheels
>Roads are pretty fucking nice and smooth almost everywhere you go
>Good variety of racetracks and autocrosses throughout the state
>Good fuel
>Always driving weather
>No rust
>Performance shops for every car you can imagine

Cons
>Brain dead geezers actively trying to kill you on the road
>Roads are flat and straight as fuck
>Tourists drive worse than Helen Keller
>Daddies money retards in exotics are plentiful

Still infinitely better than Commiefornia

Bay Area, CA
upsides
>can find good driving roads almost anywhere in the state
>healthy used car market and no corrosion to worry about
>perfect weather for most of the year, never gets too cold or hot
>always cool car events and meet ups that you can visit

downsides
>it's california
>shitty traffic congestion
>high gasoline prices
>california drivers suck
>road quality can be shoddy
>CARB = no fun
>retarded uninsured mexicans
>prevalent ricer/dudebro car scene

i've lived in florida all my life and didn't even know shit fuel was a thing until I started lurking Veeky Forums

Texas
upsides
>many back highways are in good condition due to no snow
>freeways are well-designed
>gas is fairly cheap

downsides
>lots of pickup trucks
>generally flat so very few fun roads to find
>highways under construction constantly
>few tracks

>tfw miring bikes and cars at alices

Orange County, CA

Pros:
- photogenic beach road a e s t h e t i c nearby.
- twisty mountain roads not too far either
- roads are relatively better maintained compared to LA

Cons:
- SoCal drivers in general
- assholes in large service trucks driving in the fast lane on surface streets for miles.
- illegals who either drive too slow or too fast

>California
Positives: good scenic roads, roadtrips on the ready
Negatives: gas is fucking expensive, no legal mods because muh CARB, and too many assholes everywhere to even go fast for any extended/enjoyable period of time.

Hamilton, ON

Pros:
>Traffic always flows due to one-way streets (lots of lanes and parking too)
>Easy to get out to where the driving is good, windy roads up the escarpment, lots of dirt too.
>Highway 8 into dundas valley
>lots of good rural roads, especially in the winter
>Relatively large amount of parts stores
>Multiple wreckers in an easy drive
>cops are generally too busy with degenerates to bother harassing motorists

Cons:
>Insurance is rape even by Onfailio standards
>If your car looks nice, crackheads will smash the window to pawn your junk for crack money
>Road condition is lacking in the best of places, so no low-slung track cars
>drunks and degenerates all over the road
>Roads are too shit to plow, so they just use more salt

So all in all it's not bad. Ontario in general offers some pretty nice driving, doubly so if you get up north.

Texas.
>pros
>No EPA regs on anything older than 25 years. Cut your cats and straight pipe that bitch, nobody gives a damn.
>Very basic emissions check for inspection on newer cars. Basically "do your lights work and are you not pissing oil smoke, ok good".
>No noise regulations.
>The roads that have been worked on recently are generally very good. Twisties exist but you have to hunt for them.
>Depending on your locality, traffic cops don't give a shit unless you're doing something very, very stupid.
>Scene is generally pretty chill.
>Carspotting in certain areas is VERY good.
>75 limit on highways and everyone goes 95. If you're doing 80, you get passed hard.
>Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of miles of straights with no towns sometimes for 50-60 miles.
>Monahan sand hills if you're into that kind of thing.
>Road salt isn't really a thing unless you're in the panhandle or West Texas.
>The bikers here are fucking psychos.
>Texas Motor Speedway
>3 million drag strips
>tuner shops for basically anything you can think of (Cobb is in Plano)


>cons
>FUCKING TRUCKS. SO MANY FUCKING TRUCKS THAT NEVER GET USED AS TRUCKS.
>Small town cops and state troopers are phantom devil spawn.
>AC is fucking mandatory. You will literally die. No, rolling the window down is not enough.
>Traffic in the major urban centers (Houston, DFW) is eldritch in nature. People are escaping California to come here and they don't know how to drive.
>DFW is cut the fuck up with toll roads, but we have some dank bridges.
>Mexican ricers are a special breed of ricer. Fake Maserati fender vents on your 1996 Nissan Sentra with an Autozone exhaust tip and 2 turbo whistles.
>le Infiniti QX80 going 65 in a 35 up to a red light, cuts in front of you to get ahead by one car to wait 4 minutes at the light because she's late to spin class
>no E85 anywhere, at least not near me

I can keep going.

>shit fuel
Is this a thing?

Validation from people you don't know is the best kind of validation, because there's nothing else influencing it.

huh

in CA and a few other states normal gas is 10% ethanol and 91 octane max. Most manufacturer HP numbers are from 93 octane equivalent so you lose power compared to most of the rest of the world. The ethanol can also rot the lines in older cars.

Riga, Latvia

Pros:
>frequent meets
>ebin winter drift
>race track with drift events

Cons:
>asphalt is fucking fucked mate
>shitbox bmw 3series everywhere

drivers think that they're FOKEN RACE DRIVERS with rusted exterior, mufflers with holes to make the car sound like a "true drift car" and cocky attitude

>common unmarked police
>no curves, no tooooge

>Traffic in the major urban centers (Houston, DFW) is eldritch in nature.
The roads are well-designed though in general.
>exits and entrances on all four sides
>left hand exits become rarer every year
>urban highways routinely rebuilt
>frontage roads

>rural south east
>lots of car meets for some reason, tons of cool cars
>no inspections or emissions
>no front license plates
>alot of back curvy country roads, near the end of the appalachian trail
>cheapo fucking cars galore
>cars don't rust, so 70s, 80s and 90s trucks and shitboxes in abundance

Dutch Caliphate, obviously.

upsides
>massive used car market within an hour radius
>you have to learn how to park in the tiniest of spaces
>mechanics everywhere
>you can use the metro to get anywhere if the weather sucks outside

downsides
>traffic
>the year round weather and air from the sea = rust
>road salt
>tolls
>bike lanes everywhere now
>fucking pedestrians + worse, tourists if you ever venture to Manhattan
>25 miles an hour + traffic cameras everywhere
>nowhere affordable to work on your car (youtube.com/watch?v=pOGF8GDq0MA)
>potholes
>emissions
>inspections
>insurance
>dealing with buses not giving a fuck
>gas prices
>ever even stepping foot in the DMV and not leaving 4 hours later
>traffic cops & meter maids everywhere
>traffic

estonia
downsides
>most cars are bimmers
>only one race track
>no touge
>everyone hates anyone who likes cars
>all mods strictly illegal

upsides
>police dont give a single quarterfuck about mods
>drag racing is only 1-2 events held a season vs 3-4 events of rally, track racing, time attack a month
>racing on track requirements are: a car, helmet, 25-50 eur entrance fee
>bimmers cost nothing
>audis are dirt cheap and only driven by massive poorfag gopnik retards so you know to be careful once you see one in traffic
>weekly meet with over 100 cars in every major area
>separate weekly meet for street racing in every major area
>good cars cost nothing
>everyone is pretty cool guys
>car girls are normal
>driving culture is not bad

>Southern Virginia
NOBODY DRIVES THE FUCKING SPEED LIMIT

Northeast Pennsylvania

Upsides-
>Scenic in some areas, nice balance between city and rural driving
>Backroads with little traffic
>Most locals are okay drivers
>Good used car market
>Fun mountain roads
>Pretty much need to drive everywhere, almost no pedestrians except in small cities.
>some of the hillbillies have nice shit
>Pocono Raceway is nearby, so that's kinda cool

Downsides-
>Penndot
>All the roads are in awful condition
>Jersey/New York vacationers drivers shit the roads up
>Winters are horrible, anything that isn't an interstate is usually blanketed in snow/ice for days after it snows.
>speed limits capped at 70, cops are everywhere and almost always ticket.
>potholes
>Penndot
>Fucking deer everywhere
>Trees often hang too low/close, and will fuck up your paint if you're not careful
>infrastructure is pretty terrible, despite seemingly endless roadwork
>penndot