When and how it become uncool to live with your parents? It wasn't like it in ancient times for sure

During the 1950s post-war boom, when high wages, low unemployment, low job requirements, easy availability of financing on housing and cars resulting from the economic boom, and the mass construction of highways and suburbs meant you could easily leave your parents' house, get your own car, and set out on your own.

Prior to this it was accepted for young adults to stay with their parents until they got married.

Yeah, I'm sure it's tougher for you in America.

If only Trump had stuck to socialist populist talk + isolationism he'd be winning now.

Instead muh mexicans and "radical islamic terrorists", and im a businessman.

Anyway.

*expected for young adults

For several generations where I live, when you graduate high school, you're expected to immediately find a job of some sort (Doesn't matter what, so long as it pays minimum wage or higher) and start assuming more independence. Part of assuming independence means no longer relying on another for food and lodging, hence moving out of the house became a high priority.

With the shift in society that makes it harder for young individuals to find gainful employment at a younger age, and the increase in housing costs, this has become an increasingly difficult task. It's still very possible, but requires sacrifice which some will shun if given the opportunity, and in terms of value, doesn't make a lot of sense -- living in an existing home saves more money than buying/renting another, so you're trading currency for privacy and independence. Instead, some will continue to live with their parents to save money, which draws the ire of peers who do not.

The reason that it's "uncool" is that owning one's personal space is an achievement -- a great one at that, even if it is something simple as paying monthly for it. It DOES signify that one is increasing in their independence and able to be a self-sufficient individual. Resentment comes when individuals who do own a home/apartment/whatever see their peers without. It's the same sort of resentment a manager sees with his underlings, either being unable to understand why others cannot be successful like themselves or perhaps seeing themselves as more worthy than those around them. It's a pretty basic human trait; if we have something, we want to compare it to others to improve our self-image.

There's nothing technically wrong with living at home, but living with your parents does nothing to improve your status when comparing yourself to someone else who owns, say, a small house in the suburbs or a nice apartment downtown, even though it might make fiscal sense to do so.

This shit pisses me off to no end. I have been paying medical expenses for my parents for several years now, dipping in to my savings to ensure they're receiving great care (Which they are, my father for instance just had a successful year of cancer treatment and was declared cancer free). I still live at home, because the $40k that was going towards a nice home on some land I bought is going to MD Anderson instead.

And earlier this week, a coworker of mine has the nerve to chastise me for still living with my parents, while he and his wife are making payments on a rundown house on a half acre plot of land a half hour drive from work. My paycheck is twice what his is, but he doesn't even consider that.

>Prior to this it was accepted for young adults to stay with their parents until they got married.

Which they often would in their late teens/early 20s. Since that's a rarity now and individuals, not couples are buying or renting houses, the price is effectively double.

In Italy it isn't if you're under 30

There was a time where being seen around with your mother wasn't weird

>tfw you aren't a rent slave

Many people will never get it. Just keep doing what you are doing, you are doing the right thing.

Is it still true that in European countries the young people tend to live with their parents for a longer time than young people in America? or is this claim true about small town backwater Europeans only?

Well, it is true for Russia. Can't speak for Germany and such.

i vitelloni is a good film about young men who don't work but live with their parents in small town Italy until they're forced to grow up

It's not really true in Norway. People try to get out as fast as possible, even though it's not a very good idea(Prices here are stupid).

That time is long gone, and it's not coming back.

Working minimum in Colombia earns you $291 Canadian every month. Most people choose to continue living with their parents so they don't get stuck in poverty trying to fend for themselves. Believe this is true for most Latin-American countries.

>You were born after this idea was long dead
Feels bad man.

who else living with parents above age 25 here?

Living "independently" is a pretty big spook created by capitalism. No joke, no memes. I live with my parents and don't care. If someone has a problem with that then it's their problem.

My friend and his wife wanted me to move out a few years ago and work minimum wage just to barely make ends meet. They said it'd be good for me, and meanwhile they're struggling too with two incomes. I still don't understand their idea.

Don't know about you guys, but both my parents left home when they were 18. My father was kicked out of the house. My mother was already working and independent. In neither situation it was ever considered acceptable to be living at home past that age.

I feel the opposite of you guys. I feel like parents are more lenient now than ever before. So many fucking kids these days living at home until they're practically 30, some of them barely working and living the useless fat NEET life like the blobs that they are. And you know a ton of them just sit online all day, bitching and moaning and jacking off. Childhood is lasting longer than it ever did, not the other way around.

MAGA

uh huh.

and how many people stuck at home do you suppose WANT to be there?

I'm 24 and on Tuesday I'm moving out of my house into my first apartment with my girlfriend.
In America there is definitely a stigma around living at home, but who cares.
I sorta attribute it to the general propensity of people to taunt others for anything they can think of. Because many would prefer to have their own space if it were economically feasible. Of course, in America it often isn't. My girlfriend and I will be working 3 jobs between us to live in a cheap one-bedroom apartment (in a fairly expensive city).

I know in Italy it has always been normal for people to stay at home until they are married, but the high unemployment rate has increased this trend even more. I think the same thing is starting to happen in the US. While the last several generations have been able to move out with a GED level job, that just doesn't seem to be the case any more.

It became uncool with the end of agricultural civilization and the beginning of urbanization and Jobs.

I personally don't give a fuck. life's shit, most work sucks, I didn't ask to be born, and I happen to have an extremely enabling overprotective mother. Get it where you can kids.