If the wrx is so bad, then what's the alternative for sporty, awd cars that...

Firespawn
Firespawn

If the wrx is so bad, then what's the alternative for sporty, awd cars that aren't super expensive like the 911?

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SniperWish
SniperWish

It's not bad. You just managed to let a certain group of people convince you that it is.
You like it? Go drive it. You don't? Who cares.

eGremlin
eGremlin

MX-5
Focus/Fiesta ST
GTI
Ecoboost Mustang

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Look at all those AWD cars.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

You don’t need an AWD car.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

It's not so much that the WRX is "bad" it's just the ultimate tryhard wannabe car. It's literally the "i wanted an STI but couldn't afford one" car.

Nojokur
Nojokur

AWD
Focus RS, Evos?

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Yeah lol let me run down to the Mitsubishi dealer and buy a 2018 Evo

Evilember
Evilember

->

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why AWD?
Do you live in a country that's permanently snowed in?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You do if you want a good car. Anything over 200hp that isn't AWD is wasted power.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Maybe 500

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

wanting awd
Kys

Emberfire
Emberfire

Most people don't need a sporty car either

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Dodge Dart.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Neither AWD, sporty, or even in production.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Ignoring the Focus RS

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Volvo polestar or old T5R/R cars and with AWD. Ez

Methnerd
Methnerd

its a piece of shit, not a real AWD system.

Evilember
Evilember

It's an AWD, turbo i4, 5 seater that's inexpensive, a legitimate comparison to the WRX/STI. The Evo isn't in production anymore though.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Except its not even close to the AWD system the WRX has, the WRX's AWD gives 50% to the front and rear at all times where the Ford RS is literally 100% power to the front except when you lose traction to the rear.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

the Ford RS is literally 100% power to the front except when you lose traction to the rear.
If you lack a fundamental understanding of how the drive train even works, why do you feel your opinion is valid on the subject? And even if the RS had a "fake" AWD system (whatever that means) it's still faster than the STI so maybe a "real" AWD system (whatever that means) isn't such a great thing after all.

Illusionz
Illusionz

no SX4 mentioned.
I'm disappointed in you Veeky Forums

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

low energy “do what you want” damage control poster
not based

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Supergrass
Supergrass

Its literally a retrofitted Focus ST, the AWD system is the same as a CRV or any other reactive AWD system.

happy_sad
happy_sad

You don't need AWD, RWD is more fun. Most AWD cars are mostly 80% FWD anyway.

B-But muh snow
Just don't be an idiot and keep your foot off of the throttle when it's skipp.

askme
askme

you don't need
fuck off with what I do and don't need you flaming faggot.

iluvmen
iluvmen

its not a problem with the platform, it’s with the 2014 new generation they suck
pigfat
bad tune
fa engine sucks
understeer
shit yota esque styling
get a 2013 and previous rex, 2009 and previous legacy gt, or a 2008 and previous forester xt, and youre fucking golden

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

It factually isn't. Again, you lack a basic understanding of the car's drive train, therefore your opinion is invalid sure to ignorance.

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Methshot
Methshot

factually it isn't a reactive AWD system
boy are you fucking retarded. It is an on-demand system and even then if you turn the knob to be 70% RWD the differential will just overheat because its so small and shit.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

No one gives a fuck about laptimes you retarded benchracer, they literally don't mean anything when you're bitching about cars you've never driven on tracks you've never driven on.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

mostly 80% FWD
the WRX is 50/50

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

No one gives a fuck about laptimes
Oh dem grapes is sour huh. For the record I have driven the RS, the STI, and the Type R for what it's worth. The STI is demonstrably slower. That's all there is to it. Even the Type R is faster around a track, if slower in a straight line, the one thing the STI can actually do. If you want AWD but don't care about performance whatsoever, than why not get something more practical like an SUV or an Outback or anything else. Obviously you don't care about how fast the car is so why waste the money?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Literally no one gives a fuck about laptimes, numbers on a paper don't tell you anything about a car with no information about it at all.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Ok great, its slower on tracks the OP or you will never see let alone drive on. If OP never tracks the car then the speed literally doesn't fucking matter, ala you're just another bench racer citing shit no one could give a fuck less about. So thanks for proving my point.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

sporty

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Don’t bother with trying to explain AWD to Veeky Forums

They are literally retarded.

They literally think every AWD system that isn’t from Subaru isn’t real, and the same thing as the CR-V. Even other crossovers in that segment don’t have the actually fake AWD system that the CR-V has.

Then some autist shows the Ford differential acting like it’s any smaller than the competition. Pic related, lan evo rear diff.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Sporty doesn't mean anything but a design philosophy

Spamalot
Spamalot

Like I said, if speed doesn't matter, why get a fast car?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Except it isn't. Makers entered this dumb buzzword of "all wheel drive" as in "all the wheels can receive some sort of power even if they never do" Its why when you buy a CRV thats "AWD" its literally only powering the front wheels until it runs into a situation that warrants giving other wheels power hence an "on demand AWD system" Traditionally 4x4 and 4WD other systems powered all the wheels all the time, usually exclusive to specific systems like the original not haldex bullshit Quattros, Subaru and Mitsubishi's AWD systems did this.

maybe because people like the way it looks and the way it runs and the way it feels and sounds and goes when you drive it. By your logic if you aren't interested in some german track half way across the world and what stupid laptime some driver got on it in your car you shouldn't be driving anything "sporty". Millions of americans drive 5.0 Mustangs and never track them, hell I bet less than 0.001% of sports car enthusiasts ever bring their car to a track.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Wow. You’re either so retarded that yo couldn’t understand my post at all, or you didn’t read a single word.

I already mentioned that the Honda system is fake. They’re the only ones making an actually fake AWD system.

Trying to argue that the Ford system is anything the same just ours you as a giant fucking idiot.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

In conclusion: the RS is the better car if you're a person who cares about performance, and the STI is a better car if you're a vape nation poser dudebro who only cares about a badge and doesn't actually know how to drive.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Did you really think the Focus had a Haldex system? Do you even know anything about the car at all?

Firespawn
Firespawn

He really does. Why else would he be arguing against reality?

DeathDog
DeathDog

AWD
sporty
LOL

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

falling for marketing/peer pressure
Whats it like being a massive tool

cum2soon
cum2soon

In conclusion: the RS is the better car if you're a person who cares about performance,
Lol except the focus overheats on a normal tracked day and is maxed from the factory. Even a small boost in power from stock will strain the car. The focus is fine if you don't want to modify it or take it to the track ever

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Bidwell
Bidwell

They’re the only ones making an actually fake AWD system.
Actually everyone is making a fake AWD system, pretty much everyone who makes an SUV today uses it. They're all FF until you lose traction. Honda, Toyota, Ford, Chevy, all of them. If they make an AWD system its most likely an on demand system.

I never said it had a haldex system, I said it had an on demand system like everyone else makes.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I meant actually fake, like the honda system. Not pretend fake like you just randomly assign based on how much you dislike a car/manufacturer.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

fake like a honda system
if its an on-demand system its fucking fake. The CRV uses a similar AWD system as every other on demand system where its pretty much always FF until something happens that the computer sends some power to the drive shaft to the rear wheels

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

no longer in the Burgerland market. I don't even think they even sold the sporty one in North America

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

US model got the 2.0L I4, the largest gas engine the SX4 got worldwide, and AWD. Road Race Motorsports even offers a turbo kit for it. Suzuki sold it in America from 2007-2012.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

There's hundreds of owners who have tracked they're car with no issues but okay. If you wanted to modify it you can bolt on a diff cooler but okay. Despite all the flaws you claim it has its still faster than an STI. Oh and the engine doesn't have shitty ringland failure that makes it blow up for no reason. Can't replace that.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

There's hundreds of owners who have tracked they're car with no issues
hardly, Ford is getting sued again for having a "track car" that can't be tracked because the track mode bullshit doesn't work

Illusionz
Illusionz

every single WRX thread
the saltiness is real

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Nope. You are actually factually wrong. Your opionions don’t change reality.

youtube.com/watch?v=jkiv-bWbLIo

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Dodge fart

King_Martha
King_Martha

There's hundreds of owners who have tracked they're car with no issues but okay

The majority of those owners had to make aftermarket modifications to be able run their car on the track. You will be hard pressed to find stock RSs on the track.

. If you wanted to modify it you can bolt on a diff cooler but okay

You shouldn't have to spend thousands more in aftermarket parts on a $35,000 focus

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Golf R
Focus RS

It's not a very large market, at least in North America

viagrandad
viagrandad

I want dodge to make two cars
the fart - a riced out dart that comes with a fart can

And the diaper - basically a viper but with a 2.4L i4, no turbo

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

i'm not making money shilling you on a car, fuck off

both the sti and focus rs suck and if it was my money i'd just get a civic type r for msrp or a golf R with a reflash

w8t4u
w8t4u

diff cooler
thousands more
thousands
Not even a part of this argument, but come on dude, stop being retarded on purpose.

Playboyize
Playboyize

ST165/185
AWD
turbo 4 cylinder
rally heritage
no vape nation

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'm ashamed that I laughed at this post.

Techpill
Techpill

Vorshlag
Credible

Pick one.
Full of misinformation, straight bullshit, weasel-words and marketing.

The RDU is small because it doesn't house a differential. Read that again. There is no fucking diff in there. Literally none. It's a ring and pinion on a spool, nothing fucking else. The drive and slip to each side is controlled by the clutch packs on either side, there's no reason for a diff.
The driveline is small because it's fucking overdriven. It doesn't need to be big.
A cooler is only required to control heat from the wet clutches, and doesn't need to be very big.

They have calibrated scales to weight everything but they use the Tirerack™ weights for the fucking tires and "calculate" the wheel weights.
They refer to the rdu as a "diff" because they're too stupid to pull it apart and realize there's no fucking differential in there.
Literally every driveshaft necks down where it joins the CV joint, but they still point at it and whine.
They whine about stamped steel control arms while failing to point out that the STI uses stamped arms and rubber bushings, along with many other modern production cars, yet they call it "1960's tech" because the owner is literally that out-of-date.
This is the company that couldn't figure out how to engine swap a toyobaru and make the gauges work after 4 fucking years of struggling.

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This is actually a really good car desu

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

AWD
Turbo
This is the obvious replacement.

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Emberburn
Emberburn

You don't "have" to spend anything on it. It's modded and tuned from the factory. If you're the kind of guy who needs to drive it at the limit for hours at a time without letting it cool down, then you can remedy that situation. But you're wrong if you think the Focus is the only modern car that will go into limp mode if it gets overheated.

Evilember
Evilember

not made anymore
rare
VERY used
outdated AWD system
I like celicas man, but let’s not pretend that they are competing with modern AWD hoon mobiles

Flameblow
Flameblow

If it was my money I'd just spend even more on a even slower car

SniperGod
SniperGod

Wow, that’s a huge differential compared to the STi and the Lan Evo. Probably because of the clutch packs, but still. Yuuge

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

But it’s a Buick. And a disgusting wagon.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

outdated AWD system
You mean a reliable one that doesn't overheat and uses a proper atb diff for f/r torque distribution?
Yeah, that's real out of date.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Oh that's right. OP had specific guidelines, faggot.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Jesus dude, like I said, I like celicas. I dont care about your loyalty to complaining about nice new cars.

The AWD system doesn’t have modern torque vectoring capabilities. It’s either FWD most of the time, or all wheels with equal power when the transfer case is engaged.

If you think it’s seriously up to par with modern AWD systems, you’re delusional.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

That was literally a firmware issue for the 2013-2014 CRV you stupid fuck. They fixed this, its literally an on-demand system

You are fucking wrong and all you did was google "honda crv fake awd" or some gay shit

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

DELET THIS

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Well it was actual proof that the “”fake”” AWD system you’re on about actually exists somewhere. Sorry it makes your butt sore user.

viagrandad
viagrandad

fake AWD
It was basically an issue where the firmware wouldn't send enough power to the rear to move, the clutches would basically slip like all hell, overheat then shutdown and the AWD wouldn't kick in. They fixed this with a firmware update and now any up to date 2013-2014 CRV and all modern CRV's aren't affected.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

also it actually had nothing to do with the drivetrain

w8t4u
w8t4u

AWD is a crutch for retard boiracers who don’t actually know how to drive or any basic car control

Both RWD and FWD require more skill to control well and go fast in

askme
askme

Yes. That would be the fake AWD system you were talking about. How many times do you need this explained to you.

massdebater
massdebater

It’s either FWD most of the time, or all wheels with equal power when the transfer case is engaged.

You're an idiot. It's 50/50 with a center viscous coupler. You do know how those work, right?

idontknow
idontknow

Too heavy. Ford Escape offers 240 hp on 3500 lbs and Subaru Forester offers 250 hp on 3600 lbs. the Buick is 4200 lbs.

But I’m glad GM can afford a Buick shill on top of the Corvette shill.

likme
likme

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Playboyize
Playboyize

With no torque vectoring between individual wheels. You know how that works, right? You realize that 80s tech isn’t state of the art anymore, right?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Even slower car

yes because the only thing that matters are 0-60 times and lap times on a circuit across the world set by professional drivers with more talent than i'll have in a lifetime

buy a $5000 miata/civic/mr2 and learn how to drive first

Methnerd
Methnerd

I'm not arguing your fancy torque vectoring. I'm arguing your statement about the ST165 AWD system being front wheel biased. It's not.

Firespawn
Firespawn

the fake AWD
ok we've established that, its called an on-demand system, every SUV with "AWD" does this.

You're literally agreeing with me and you're bitching that you have to explain it when really you're not listening

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

No, I’m saying that the on demand systems are not actually fake. Just that example of the CR-V failing to engage it is actually fake.

Idc about your opinions as to what is it is not fake. That doesn’t change reality.

FastChef
FastChef

No, I’m saying that the on demand systems are not actually fake. Just that example of the CR-V failing to engage it is actually fake.
Jesus christ these are the same things, if a toyota rav4 has an on-demand system its literally the same type of system that the crv uses. In this case the firmware in the 2013-2014's were faulty and this was fixed. Toyota's on-demand system works the same way

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The AWD system doesn’t have modern torque vectoring capabilities. It’s either FWD most of the time, or all wheels with equal power when the transfer case is engaged.

See, these assumptions are what irritate the shit out of me. It's not fwd any of the time, for any reason, ever. The E151F found in the ST185 Celicas are full-time awd, with mechanical torque biasing via a torsen center diff. It can't be disengaged, there is no fwd-only mode.

It's not all wheels with equal power, because that's not how a torsen diff works. it will bias torque front to rear based on which axle has more traction, up to it's torque bias ratio, where it will start to slip and deliver torque to the slipping axle. The TBR is determined by the helix angle of the worm gears in the diff, and is approximately 3:1 in the ST185, meaning it can split power up to 25:75 F:R (or 75:25 F:R) mechanically, based on available traction.

You're an idiot. It's 50/50 with a center viscous coupler
What the fuck? The CVC didn't come along until the st205 E154f. Stop making assumptions.

With no torque vectoring between individual wheels
What is ATB
What is mechanical limited slip
Just because it's not electronic, doesn't mean it's not there.
Any real racecars throw away the electronic "vectoring" anyway and go to mechanical LSD's because they work better.
Electronic torque vectoring is a gimmick.

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whereismyname
whereismyname

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Trac

in most of the models, when the transfer case is not locked, the majority of the power is routed to the front wheels

Illusionz
Illusionz

Who cross-shops WRX and 911?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Where is everyone buying these race spec GT4s with torsens? I could only find them with open diffs.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Phoneposting
Techincal information from Weasel-fucking-pedia

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idontknow
idontknow

Silly, the center diff is torsen in all the 185's, the rear diff is open / optional torsen... And it's pretty easy to find desu

Skullbone
Skullbone

I like both of those things.

That's a good point... Why's it so heavy?

And no I'm not a shill, just autism.

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SniperWish
SniperWish

proof of being wrong doesn’t count because I don’t like the source
complains about poneposting
posts anime reaction images

StonedTime
StonedTime

I don’t like wagons that look like euro wagons. Jap wagons are top tier.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

What the fuck? The CVC didn't come along until the st205 E154f. Stop making assumptions.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Outdated
But the ej25 is still in production

askme
askme

From your same shitty source:

starting from the facelift model of October 1987 came with transfer case contains a viscous coupling unit that provides 50/50 power distribution to the front and rear differentials at all times

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Isn't awd the best for rally and racing where it's not banned?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You’re right. Get the Ford then.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

no one. but Veeky Forums will recommend 20+ year old beat to shit sports cars to people who are looking for new cars.
i think op was trying to point of how there are no other new cars that check all the boxes the wrx does, in the wrx price range

w8t4u
w8t4u

Hence why it sold so well and why it's so popular despite its issues.

For the last 17 years it has its own niche where the closest competitor is spending $10-15k more for a AWD 3-Series/Audi Quattro/Infiniti G35x or $20k more for a Audi S4.

And only in the last 10 years with the 335xi/G35x/A3 2.0T were they anywhere close in performance.

idontknow
idontknow

t. assblasted boiracer who can’t drive

Emberfire
Emberfire

This, its pretty much the only brand new car you can get for under 30k that:

AWD
manual
sedan
good power
sporty

SniperGod
SniperGod

Now granted there are other cars that will check everyone of those boxes but they can't really be had for under 30k

MPmaster
MPmaster

Only reason I don’t want a new wrx is that I don’t like compact sedans and they don’t make a hatch anymore.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Put Opel/Vauxhall Insignia badges on it and get the sedan/liftback.

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Methshot
Methshot

some chrysler/gm shit
nahj

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

That won’t get rid of the ugly euro look or the pigfat

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Nothing

Everything else is basically trash mostly front wheel transverse based AWD twinster/haladex crap

Wait for the 2019-2020+ refresh with the new engine

T. Ls GM babby

Subi is the only ones who do real 50/50 AWD shame flat fours are garage engine configuration but maybe the new one won't be so bad.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Subi is the only ones who do real 50/50 AWD
I mean Audi's mechanical AWD is very similar and even offers a 60/40 rear torque bias, but
Audi

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Also audis engines hang over the front axle like a top heavy euro bimbo understeering into the nearest black cock

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

implying you can't still buy 2015 ones new in the year 2018

The big Mitsubishi dealer in Dallas has like 3 of them. Nobody wants a Lancer, Evo or no.

farquit
farquit

:_;

I was a Evo fan.

Wish I wasn't a brainlet broke neet so I could rescue one

askme
askme

So do Subaru's. That's why they use flat-4s instead of inline-4s.

TreeEater
TreeEater

True
Any idea what the new wrx sti engine is?

SniperGod
SniperGod

EJ30
3 liter naturally aspirated flat 6

StonedTime
StonedTime

Actually 2015 to present. 2014 MY had the glass transmission and ring land failures.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

unironically saying “Lan Evo”
Okay kid, go back to bench racing at the lunch table. How much is a carton of chocolate milk these days?

Methshot
Methshot

they also want $40-45,000 for a car that's been sitting for 3-4 years.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I wish

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

not knowing the value of chocolate milk in 2018

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

my point is invalid because I called the car something you don’t like
The absolute state of Veeky Forums

King_Martha
King_Martha

I agree with this so much. That said, every time I watch Baby Driver I feel better about the sedan.

It is important to realize that most people are stupid and have bad opinions. Veeky Forums is not an exception. The WRX is a good car. It could be better, and the fanbase has some shitty elements but the car is good.

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Only thing I can think of is the VW alltrack. Has the TSI engine, fast af.

AWD sedans and even wagons aren't too common anymore unfortunately. If you want a crossover you're in luck though, there's a ton of options that are basically spin offs of each other with slight differences (all seem to be ultimately based on the RAV4, which is going back to being mostly a small truck in 2019).

Flameblow
Flameblow

I’d rather be a gassed Jew than be caught driving a VW Alltrack

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I live in a city with 8 months of continuous snowfall. AWD is not a necessity. Good tires are.
If you want a rally race machine, you can either get a WRX, or a Focus RS. Nothing else currently available fits that niche, and the RS is stupid expensive.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I live in a city
Wow that’s nice. Not everyone does.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

170hp
3400lbs
15.3 second 1/4 mile
fast af

compared to what diesels?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

And it's pathetically slow

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Nvm. I misread your post, I thought you were implying it was a diesel. I have no reason to oppose the idea that the golf is slow

Methshot
Methshot

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Methnerd
Methnerd

You're a fucking idiot. The car isn't supposed to lose control and need excessive skill to keep under control. It's helpful if it keeps itself under control. That means it's a better car with better performance than one that would otherwise lose control.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

He's a chef, his opinion is irrelevant.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

not all the 911 models are awd or turbo.
unless you do rallying any other car is fine.

Supergrass
Supergrass

next time I'm stuck behind you while you spin your front tires on slick ice for the entire green light im going to get out and dump mustard on your car

askme
askme

why would you want awd lmao.

more parts to break
more expensive to build power
more drivetrain loss
300 extra pounds

NO INCREASE IN PERFORMANCE

just get rwd and good tires you nigger

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

No increase in performance
nigger
Found the dumbass

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

because you want understeer in a sports car right lol??

awd sports cars only exist so companies can advertise better 0-60 times to get retards to buy the car

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I want better stability, of course it's going to understeer a little. You are as dumb as they come

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Unused Evo is still an unused Evo, user. It's not like they've been letting the things rot.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Pretty sure I'll be diagnosed with autism when I see my doctor because of these posts.

massdebater
massdebater

t-the car should control itself

learn proper throttle control instead of mashing the pedal and you might not spin out so much in RWD you fucking brainlet

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

He's literally against better performance so long as it allows him to play Mr. Elitist, greatest driver of all time

I bet you don't even shuffle steer or know anything about cornering lines.

eGremlin
eGremlin

The car isn't supposed to lose control and need excessive skill to keep under control.
git gud

isn't FWD generally the best for city snow driving?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Congrats on living Anchorage? Not a whole lot of cities with that kind of climate.

I live rural hilly area with 6 months of snow. I drive FWD with Hakka 7's on my car. I regret not having AWD about once a month.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

no no that's exactly the point, rubber and plastic ages out. they've literally sat for those 4 years and they still want new car money or $5-10k over msrp because "its the last one left lol"

at least it'll have a 3-4 year warranty on it from when the car is sold

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Worse than that, a car is meant to be driven. The fluids have sat on these cars. I'd rather take a true used one than a leftover new one.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

All wheel drive is a moot point when you have rear wheel drive

TreeEater
TreeEater

durr hurr durr because I’m retarded

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

you don't need a car either motherfucker

SniperWish
SniperWish

It's been 10 hours, and I still don't understand OP's picture.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Buy a used one and mod that. It's better than spending $35k on some pigfat 220hp Subaru and I bet you'd have way more fun in the Zuki. Or just buy a truck.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Supermarket cashier seeing the customer buying lots of toilet paper, then looking at him to discover that he's an Egyptian mummy, and inferring that he's gonna use the tp as bandages.

Now the real question is...

WE

askme
askme

WUZ

Inmate
Inmate

KANGZ

likme
likme

AN

Methshot
Methshot

SHHIIIIIEEET?

WebTool
WebTool

HAHAHAHAHHA

StonedTime
StonedTime

bro just buy a used car made by a company that shit the bed so hard they pulled out of most of the continent
and then just mod it, yo
shit will be cash

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

bro just auy a car from a brand known for making notoriously shitty engines and glass transmissions

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