How did 2 of the smartest and most intellectual cultures on earth ended up becoming ant societies where the progress of the last centuries was reversed and ended up slaughtering each other mechanically and everything which even resembles a human?
This is actually as close as humanity ever got to real apocalypse and the deepest it's ever fallen. Isn't this ultimate proof that god is evil?
They clearly wasnt smartest and most intellectual then
>idealism, rationalism, empiricism, materialism, utilitarianism, positivism, socialism, anarchism, nihilism, and, underlying them all, atheism
Dostoyevsky told you.
>Russia
>intellectual
wew lad
nah it's only nihilism
it's humanities favorite mode of thinking and acting.
It was. Russia isn't fucking Brazil or Somalia. They had their good share of thinkers, literature, composers etc... yes it is unfortunate that they descended on the level of Mexico. This doesn't mean their culture isn't intellectual just because you say so.
I hope you realize that Brazil also has a rich history and culture.
Acting like it's all Favelas and football is no more accurate than saying Russia is just heroin addicts running around in tracksuits.
Brazil has distinct lack of "high" culture while Russia was famous for its novelists... Brazil is famous for bunda bunda music
>implying that religious people can't fuck tings up royally
Nah, let's put all our trust in a fucking russian author that was Dugin light.
An *intelligentsia* that had little or no contact with the middle and lower classes. Hence Duginevskijs mysticism.
Fine with me. Educated people know that almost all cultures did interesting and worthwhile stuff. Genius isn't as rare as we think, it just takes different forms and is often bottlenecked by economic/geographic conditions, superstition and wrong upbringing.
Germany progressed, invented highways, rockets, space travel, great advancements in medicine, Hitler made Germany even greater than pre ww1 Germany.
As for Russia, the working class got fed up with their poor conditions and slaughtered all intellectuals.
>Hitler
Leeched on the hard work by the Weimar Republic.
>Lenin and Stalin didn't want any competition
Fixed that for ya!
>smartest and most intellectual
That's not even true. Both were considered backward and undemocratic.
>Historian Hans-Ulrich Wehler of the Bielefeld School places the origins of Germany's path to disaster in the 1860s and 1870s, when economic modernization took place, but political modernization did not happen and the old Prussian rural elite remained in firm control of the army, diplomacy and the civil service. Traditional, aristocratic, premodern society battled an emerging capitalist, bourgeois, modernizing society. Recognizing the importance of modernizing forces in industry and the economy and in the cultural realm, Wehler argues that reactionary traditionalism dominated the political hierarchy of power in Germany, as well as social mentalities and in class relations (Klassenhabitus).
>The term Sonderweg was first used by German conservatives in the Imperial period, starting in the late 19th century as a source of pride at the "Golden Mean"[2] of governance that in their view had been attained by the German state, whose distinctiveness as an authoritarian state lay in taking the initiative in instituting social reforms, imposing them without waiting to be pressured by demands "from below". This type of authoritarianism was seen to be avoiding both the autocracy of Imperial Russia and what they regarded as the weak, decadent and ineffective democratic governments of Britain and France.[3] The idea of Germany as a great Central European power, neither of the West nor of the East was to be a recurring feature of right-wing German thought right up to 1945.
Oh right, all the hard work of the Weimar Republic was perfectly timed so that when Hitler came to power the real prosperity began, right?
You brainwashed goofballs should get an olympic gold medal for the mental gymnastics you perform.
>As for Russia, the working class got fed up with their poor conditions and slaughtered all intellectuals.
Nobody gave a shit about conditions. That meme needs to stop. It was WW1 that they were fed up with.
The logic is simple. You can force me to live like an animal. You can treat me like an animal. But you can't fucking force me to fight against soldiers who are treated like humans by their government. You can't force me to attack fucking tanks with bayonets.
Either you treat me like shit and spare me the burden of wars (Basically Soviet Union) OR you treat me with decency and then I am willing to fight for you.
Unfortunately for the Czar that logic was inescapable. Because even the guys who are willing to fight, will get experience and grow a pair of balls. If you can fight the industrial meatgrinder that is Germany you can also demand better treatment or get rid of your shitty government.
>Russia before Gorbachov
First sattlite
First man in space
First woman in space
Invention of periodic table
Brothers Karamazov
Free college education
>Russia after Gorbachov
Squatting
Yelchin
>you can't fucking force me to fight against soldiers who are treated like humans by their government
Your entire post is a load of shit but this fantastic piece of hollywood drama takes the cake.
Well you can force me. But then I will fight like shit and get slaughtered. Motivation and morale is key in every war. Basically the reason why Russians were always killed by the millions as opposed to their well-fed Western counterparts.
Anyway you didn't refute a single thing. Either provide arguments or get the fuck out.
you didn't make any points for me to refute, you just spouted your opinion
you're quite ridiculous actually, acting all tough an argumentative even though you're not even arguing any points
Are you fucking retarded? I argued that WW1 was the reason for the communist revolution, which is 100% true.
>You can't force me to attack fucking tanks with bayonets.
>russia
>of the smartest and most intellectual cultures on earth
"They tell me I am responsible for more deaths than cancer. I tell them: Capitalism IS cancer and communism is the antidote.
Georgy Zhukov
Germany intellectual?
>rockets, space travel
That would be Russia, not Germany.
> Hitler made Germany even greater than
Made so great that she was running out of hard currencies and had serious problems with liquidity. Hitler needed either to drastically cut spending and introduce austerity measures or find some territory to plunder and pay for his insane economic policy. Obviously he chose the latter, in large part because he was too scared to admit that his policies were a failure.
Their thinkers, composers and authors are probably the best in recorded history.
>yes it is unfortunate that they descended on the level of Mexico
You're sorely misled if you believe that you can judge a civilization of 143 million inhabitants on the basis of dying, post-Soviet subculture.
It's like saying that most Americans are subhuman half-breeds and inbred hillbillies.
Indeed.
>Basically the reason why Russians were always killed by the millions as opposed to their well-fed Western counterparts
That happened because in many cases, they were poorly led, unlike in the case of June's advance.
>It's like saying that most Americans are subhuman half-breeds and inbred hillbillies.
That's not far from the truth