/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

It's not about it being too hard, it's about it being a lazy kind of difficulty that also renders most weapons unviable.

>free traps, (flash)bugs etc. everywhere and farcaster that can be used anytime as long as you're not near the monster
>changing equipment mid-hunt and even refilling potions and any other item without any(!) consequences
>monsters do little no no damage
>prompts on screens show you combos, sharpness state of your weapon and even when to capture a monster (again, experience is less important in this game)
>weapons have a greater range
>even more vertical environments that add absolutely nothing to the core combat and just handicap you when you use weapons that require a lot of precision (Hammer)
>monsters are slower than ever before (compare Diablos or Barroth with Tri Barroth or Tri Diablos)
>open world/walking simulator meme
>paid DLC and probably holding back fan favorites like Zinogre, Deviljho and Rajang for the paid G-Rank (and it probably won't be a physical copy so you can't even sell the original and save money)

/mhg/ is for shills and braindead casuals now who never even clocked more than 1,000 hours into Monster Hunter.

>literally looks like she's made out of plastic
>attractive

Why should every weapon be viable in the absolute endgame? That's the point where making the correct choices should actually matter.

So is MHW going to be the Bloodborne of 2018 for /v/? Will it be filled with sour grapes nintendrones cherrypicking webbums to convince everyone who actually has a non-nintendo console to not play the game?

Because that's what happened with Bloodborne. People who didn't have PS4s trying to convince others not to get the game.

This is a copypasta, don't bite it

>tencent shills attempt to invade another /mhg/ thread

Yeah, it's still slow and has casualized attack like the one I just mentioned.

Are you an idiot?

>the casual Jap died six times because he is stupid so it must be hard

It's not even nintendrones anymore, it's just people looking for something to shitpost about. You can find the thread where this stupid copypasta came from here:

>I have never seen a woman with my own two eyes
>the post

There's nothing wrong with certain weapons being better at fighting specific monsters.
Every weapon SHOULD be viable though, even if it's not optimal. Arguing otherwise is fucking stupid.

The least you could do is shop the date on that picture to today's date.

Just take a look at 5:55 and tell me that looks slow, or easy to deal with.

>smoothing filter x100

hawt

>Nintendo boogeyman
But I mainly play on PC and I hate the Switch? Also refer to >bringing up From cancer
Please go back to NeoGAF.

I have literally never met a person who owns JUST a Nintendo console, basically anyone who is over 18 and not living in the third world can afford at least 2 consoles and/or a mid/low range gaming PC

Just report and ignore this guy, he's obviously baiting for a flame war

you can heal while walking in witcher 3 too

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Asking for source

And why would I do this? Does the message have an expiration date?

>criticizing THE GAME because being a fan since MH1
>not ONE of you shills counters ONE of the points here , and instead you just INSULT and act like children
>calling ME a flamer

Kill yourself and fuck off back to NeoGAF.

One of my first thoughts upon seeing el-gigante was "man, this guy is gonna generate a lot of furry bara porn isn't he"
I don't know how to feel about that thought

I'm just glad I'll be able to play MH with my DDbros with Worlds

looks like the /v/ faggot is back. 4th time is just squealing for attention

Will you re-create your Pawn and/or Arisen?
I will.

>4th
They've been here for every other general since e3.

>The arisen reincarnated and got thrown into the monster hunter world
Now that's some pleasant headcanon for that fucking dark ending

Depends on your definition of viable. I definitely do think that the gaps you see in 4U 140 TAs should be the norm for endgame content.

Do people really think switch can handle those hair?

youtu.be/-fVdncFjKns?t=490

a fun little background detail with the girl reading her books already sitting at the table MC sits down at.
Then loud companions come over and spill beer on her books and she gets really annoyed and leaves.

>top row middle looks like my IRL cat
I can't wait to recreate my beloved Foxy, like I do in every monhun game

That fatomhless delusion you must have entered at this point. I really hope you're on Capcom's payroll.

Responding to these shitposts takes too much time and effort. And whats the point? You're just gonna post this shit in every thread until the game launches, because you don't actually play MH and want to shitpost. How do I know this? because people DO point out why you're wrong but nah, keep fucking posting your dumb complaints like "muh resale value". Nobody wants to put up with this shit. There's literally no point in responding.
>point out flaws
capshill defense force woah seething etc.
>ignore obvious shitposting
no one can refute my intelligent argument

We're fucking monster hunter players, wasting effort for no reward is something we try to avoid. All I have to do is wait until the game comes out and stupid shit like this goes away because its based on nothing. Yes I'm mad.

You are right. This is the direction MHW goes. Casual garbage for the Skyrim audience.

Pretty sad.

Anyone wants a (You) from (Me)?

That boat looks so comfy, it's a damn shame it's not going to be in the full game. I'm still holding out on the boat (or something that looks like it) being the hunter's hall, but I know that probably won't happen

Yes, I can tell you guys are huge Monster Hunter fans.

That's also why I couldn't even finish one level 140 Zinogre or even Shagaru with you guys because you always carted after one or two minutes. Huge, huge fans.

You are killing this franchise.

No one fucking expected World to be ported to Switch, no one sane anyway.
The real kick in the balls is that Capcom won't localize XX, which means that people who wanted to experience what is most likely the last "classic" MH that will ever be made are just shit out of luck.

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Why does /v/'s opinion about World seem less biased and more profound than the opinions you can read here?

Or just obvious underage shit like

I don't think that MHXX will be the last "classic" monhun ever. I reckon the spinoffs might still use the old engine for a while, if the games prove to sell enough, why not?

give me the (You)s right now

I do

World won't not be classic.

I just hope my PC can. I don't want to play Monster Hunter at 30 FPS anymore, it's ridiculous. A game with focu son combat and exploiting even single frames shouldn't be 30 FPS.

I can't even understand how NeoGAF enjoys Bloodborne at 20 FPS on PS4.

That's not my point, I'm saying classic in terms of the old style not in terms of quality

How is rewording some guys post to strawman his argument no underage shit

>Why does /v/'s opinion about World seem less biased and more profound than the opinions you can read here?

Oh my fuck this fucking 4U babby is so fucking funny. "/v/ is profound" "4U wasn't the death knell of the franchise, mounting is the best thing that's ever happened to MH!"

Yo my dude can you stop replying to him? He's going to get bored and go back to /v/ if you do.

I hope you're right user.
I am fucking hyped for World and I love almost everything we have seen about it so far, but the PS2 graphics Monster Hunter will always have a special place in my heart.

He literally said MH4 speed is dumb. This goes hand in hand with my experience that /mhg/ carts a lot to 140 GQs. What else could he have meant by it? Monsters need to be fast to be challenging, especially now. You can dodge out of everything in World and literally fly through the air.

I know what you're saying, I'm telling you that World isn't going to feel different from the old monhun. X/XX are don't feel classic to me. 4u was the last classic.

How about a healthy fucking middle ground in between MH4U's ridiculous speed and World's slow mo, and making the game more difficult by other means
Other MH games managed to be difficult without making monsters run back and forth across the map at 80mph

Don't you have some clouds to yell at old man

My main reasoning for saying this is that the old games are obviously much cheaper to produce, so releasing one of them every couple of years isn't nearly as straining as making new content for World, which has a much higher production value

>What else could he have meant by it?
You dont get to insert meaning into people's posts, not because its rude, but because nobody is gonna fucking fall for it.
>literally fly through the air.
source?

>Monsters need to be fast to be challenging
Sure it was challenging, and it was especially fun when all the old weapons were still designed around MHP3rd's monsters in terms of speed and motion values

Calling 4 the death knell because of mounting, verticality and anime shit while praising World is just weird. Makes it obvious you're a Capcom shill. I actually hate all those things about 4 and I didn't even buy that X trash because of this exact reason.

There is no ridiculous speed in 4U. You are just a fucking casual. I could still easily knock out a 140 Apex Deviljho with Hammer. Then you shouldn't have problems hitting his fucking feet without getting hit.

You are the reason World is casual garbage. Thank you.

Thank you, /mhg/.

>17 posters
MHW couldn't come out soon enough.

Also why doesn't /v/ fag post his clear times?

He's still crying about the meanie difficulty due to the speed here Stop defending your casual friends now.

Post your clear times!

Deviljho is also one of the slowest monsters in 4U, what's your point

Post your clear times

I don't even know what you mean by that. You can easily fight a 140 monster with a Gun Lance or Hammer or anything. They're just a bit weak compared to Great Sword. That's not because of the gameplay, though. It's because of, and as you said yourself, the fucking motion values.

>Monsters need to be fast to be challenging
Not the kids you're arguing with but that's wrong.
Monsters need to force you to respect their hitboxes to be challenging instead of relying on over-the-top acrobatics as a crutch. I blame Nargacuga for starting this acrobatic cancer that you children lap it up so much.

>stopped fully enjoying MH since 4
>still comes here

I know you are just pretending to be retarded but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the posters here actually feel this way.

Grandpa shut the fuck up about your respect bullshit and take your Alzheimer meds

They had the same motion values in P3rd and the gaps weren't anywhere near as big then because, guess what, those weapons weren't so hampered by their lack of mobility against slower monsters, and they could get in hits far more consistently.

I can wreck a 140 Zinogre or Shagaru with Hammer just as well. Every braindead RETARD can pick a Great Sword with Crititical Draw and hit'n'run a monster's face or pick a Long Sword and focus on the monster's fucking legs.

Not even talking about gunners.

The monsters weren't too fast. You are just a casual shitter and now you insult me for criticizing World for being casual garbage.

Hey, I know you like to pretend to be hardcore, but could you post your clear times for me and the rest of the thread, please? Stop ignoring me.

Again. A Hammer is extremely slow and can rape almost any 140 monster if you are not a casual shitter. When a Hammer can do it, any weapon can do it. That's my experience since I'm playing every weapon. The problem is not the gameplay but, as you say yourself, the motion values. Or actually the problem of MH4 was just that the Great Sword and the Insect Glaive were overpowered against most monsters.

Webm related. A 140 Shagaru. Want to make it even slower? Where would the fucking challenge be?

Wait so is 4u casula or World? You just said that a brainded retard could clear 140's, yet youre proud of that feat? If MH is already braindead then why does it matter how casual World is.

Joining the other user, post your clear times.

@190188296
>same filename

Don't mind me guys, I'm just a MHW monster. I have motion stop like shit animations and I'm super slow. Please mount me for 90% the time of the fight.

Post your clear times

It was an overreach. Apparently not every braindead retard has such an easy time with 140 quests. The point is that, no matter how piss easy 4 is (when you pick piss easy weapons and focus on piss easy hitzones), World is still more casual. Refer to , .

Wyvern Hitler did nothing wrong monsters need to be gassed Elder Genocide best day of my life

You must have an odd definition of "rape" when it's several minutes slower against the vast majority of them than even the mid tier weapons.
Can't be the MVs' fault, Hammer had the exact same MVs in P3rd and it was a top tier weapon there.

If you want to post right go make a webm of the Jagras constantly getting tripped, stunned, and generally raped by the bow hunter.
Then make posts about advanced monster AI and challenge that can only be found in World.

>4u is extremely easy when I'm waving my epeen
>but world is worse than that when I want to shitpost
Try forming a coherent argument. If 4U is easy, then yo udont mind easy games. If World is easier then whats to complaing about again? You already admitted that you like an already easy game.

>multiple references to Apex Zinogre
Wow, is May having a meltdown right now?
No wonder I havent seen his screencaps lately

Basically, it's almost like you actually need to adapt the weapons to the monsters instead of doing lazy copy paste jobs every damn time. But until then, doing shit like 4U did just plain isn't going to work. You can't enforce "turn based" gameplay and then have weapons that have to get off 4-5 hit combos to do anything.

Post your clear time

Having to deal with really strong monsters with weapons that feel inadequate to handle them was the entire reason why 4U was fun, making it "balanced" would ruin it.

lol this franchise doesnt need the help of casuals to die off

Fucking this. If you just make every weapon as strong as GS or IG, there wouldn't be any challenge left at all. You're basically asking for the game to remove its normal and hard modes because it has an easy mode.

1) It's not several minutes slower. Only Great Sword, Insect Glaive and guns are noticeably faster and we can all agree that those in particular were overpowered in 4 and partially still are.

2) Shagaru has tons of openings for Hammer, so it can't be he is too fast for Hammer. You can hit him all the time. Look up a speedrun on Youtube.

I derive the most fun and satisfaction from killing the monster as fast as possible without outright cheesing it (four guns, status spam, trap spam, bombs). Now what it looks like and what my fear is that the fastest way actually won't be experience, perfect precision, positioning and skill (as demonstrated here ) anymore but instead luring the monster to other monsters, which do a ridiculous amount of damage, environmental traps, which are everywhere, mounting, which seems to be even easier than ever before and so on. And positioning was casualized in many ways anyway (can drink while sprinting).

>checking gaijin's twitter for Worlds news
>he's defending preorder bonuses like a sperg for some reason
>people in the comments are too dumb to understand how anti consumer this shit is
>they REEEEEEEEE hard whenever someone explains why it's a shitty business practice
>"b-but the MH team is nice, they wouldn't indulge in dodgy behaviour"
>"muh real MH fans know the charm isn't even good so who cares"
>"s-stop you're hurting the devs feelings :("
Someone please burn these idiots

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