When I first found out about Vichy France, I was absolutely floored...

When I first found out about Vichy France, I was absolutely floored. I couldn't believe that so many French people willingly fought for the Germans. Why would they do this?

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Because they let their politics get in the way of their patriotism. There was a decent chunk of the French population that thought it better to kiss a foreign occupier's boots than to work with a leftist government.

French women also willingly entered relationships with German soldiers and allowed those soldiers to breed them.

Imagine being a French soldier burning in hell and knowing the guy who killed you was filling your daughter with his seed.

If French fascists had any foresight they would have recognized the war was THE decisive moment for fascism and Axis defeat was sure to end popular fascist movements for decades.

Vichy France was officially neutral in the war, and considered Germany to be a hostile country.

Maybe you're thinking of the French volunteers in the Wehrmacht and SS? They weren't "so many", and they were usually fascists who believed a the most important thing was to bring about a Nazi victory against Communism.

The only example I've ever seen of this happening was in the fantasies of cucks like you desu.

>There was a decent chunk of the French population that thought it better to kiss a foreign occupier's boots than to work with a leftist government.

When you look at the current state of France, you will understand that they were completely justified in thinking so.

>frenchies licking boots in 1943 is good because there's a lot of Muslims in Paris in 2016

They should have licked those boots harder so France will still be France in 2030.

I would rather be cooperating with foreign national socialists than native communists any day
Communists sell you out anyway

It's mostly cuckold fantasies rather than reality
Average German soldiers were forbidden from entering in relationship with regular women in occupied territories and could only fuck prostitute in specialized brothel
Only high officers got to fuck local women

>Average German soldiers were forbidden from entering in relationship with regular women
Can't you see? It was against regulations therefore it didn't happen!

Not him but I've never even see a case of that happening where the woman wasn't just a prostitute.

Frenchmen from the STO fucking German women was actually quite a bit more common.

Actually Vichy sometimes fought for the the Axis:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dakar
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Madagascar
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria–Lebanon_Campaign

And sometimes fought against it
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_French_Indochina
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_French_fleet_in_Toulon

Never said it absolutly never happened, but it certainly didn't happen en masse like some cucks love to claim it did

>Vichy sometimes fought for the the Axis

No, they just defended their empire against Free French or Allied invasion. Those battles have nothing to do with the Axis.

>he would sell his country out to the fucking Boche instead of trying to fight the commies as a Frenchman

And that is why everyone hates Vichy, faggot.

"The strong do what they will, and the weak submit to what they must."

So is this a post in favor of kissing the Muslim's boots?

Petain's government was legitimate. When they signed the armistace in 1940 france was totally defeated and Britian had no hope in site of victory.

The armistace was a temporary peace meant to last a few weeks until Britian capitulated. The armistace gave Germany occupation of the strategic coastlines south of britian for the 'invasion' that nobody on either side though would happen because Britian had no hope of winning.

Hitler actually put money and resources in to France to rebuild (similiar to the marshall plan) and guaranteed France her colonial possessions and all of her land aside from Alcase-lorraine would be returned to her after Britian surrendered.

Hitler was so commited to France and honoring his deal he refused Spain's offer to enter the war on the Axis side in exchange for parts of French Africa.

However, Britian did not surrender and lucky for them relations between Russia and Germany deteriorated dramatically over the next year. The armistace designed for several weeks lasted several years and as Germany's situation changed from triumphant to desperate Germany began to use desperate measures to keep the war going at France's expense.

The French had anti-communist sentiment and many were willing to work against the Russians, particularly at a time when the Holocaust was rumor or unknown. Britian their 'ally' had destroyed their navy and killed 3k of their soldiers.

In my opinion de gaulle was more of a pushover puppet than Petain and had no right to govern france other than via the conquest of the allies over France.

Many French died in operation overlord and De-Gaulle really didn't do much to help France win other than propaganda.

>and all of her land aside from Alcase-lorraine would be returned to her after Britian surrendered.
What ? Alsace was completly annexed, and it wasn't going to be the only annexation. The north of France was a forbidden zone, and the nazis actually had plans to annex part of France that were part at some point of the HRE.

>annex part of France that were part at some point of the HRE
Champagne and Bourgnone which were once part of Burgundy, and the rest of Elsass and Lorraine (only the "German" parts were annexed in 1871). For the record, while part of Champagne was annexed by the Habsburg Empire after the succession of Burgundy, it was never actually introduced into the HRE. Only the duchies of Elsass and Lorraine were. The reason they wanted to annex Champagne and possibly Bourgogne was because Burgundy was once a Germanic kingdom, not because of any ties to the HRE of which they had none.

fuck britain desu

>Hitler actually put money and resources in to France to rebuild
The very same Hitler that ordered France to owe Germany 400 million French Francs each day of the war?

Ah yes.

>Petain's government was legitimate.
>confirmed for not knowing anything about the French Assembly
The French Assembly which appointed Pétain with extraordinary powers was "leglisative", rather than "constituante", thereby denying it any authority in such a radical change in the Constitution. Therefore, Vichy France was an iillegitimate government.

>had no right to govern france other than via the conquest of the allies over France.
Which is why he never entertained any true governmental functions (other than him briefly being the president for the 1-year temporary government, which he departed of hiw own will) until 1958 when the Parliament elected hom democratically as the new president of the IVth republic.

>he refused Spain's offer to enter the war on the Axis side in exchange for parts of French Africa.
Well duh, why would he break his word with the government already servile to him who exercized the best chance at keeping those colonies away from British occupation. That was "realpolitik" dictating it, not "muh love for Fronz

> The brothel was located in a former synagogue.

One has to admit that the Nazis were doing a fucking A+ job at trolling the Jewsters in every way imaginable.

To be fair the British were bing kind of dicks at the time. After the attack on Mers el-Kebir they essentially ruined any hope of getting the Vichy French navy on their side. Plus nobody expected them to actually win alone.

>it's another "Hitler would have kept his word!" episode

ok.

>Average German soldiers were forbidden from entering in relationship with regular women in occupied territories and could only fuck prostitute in specialized brothel
That doesn't stop them from doing it anyway

When the Germans build cuck sheds

>Nazi brothel in a Synagogue
The jews must've been absolutely assblasted

>be Jew who survived the war hiding, by having fled to countries like Switzerland or be one of the lucky few to be rescued from the camps
>come back to your hometown, reclaim the synagogue
>spend weeks scrubbing off crusty kraut cum
JUST

> be the rabbi who makes a prayer for those lost in the death camps
> the audience watch you surrounded by massive, impossible to clean, nasty Nazi cum stains on the wall behind you

They should have won.

>Why would they do this?

The same reason East Germany became an ally of the U.S.S.R.

Now, Hitler Germany is the evil incarnated. It's important to be in the context of the time.

Back then, none of the death camps stuff was released or anything. They were just an aggro expansionist government in a time of political and economical crisis, not so surprising in the age of empires.
Many people disliked the government before the war for being weak and frivolous, so being taken in charge by a strongman was a bretty good deal for many.

Actually, this behaviour goes on to this day. Look how many people suck on Putin's dick even though he's clearly threatening Western Europe constantly.
You'd think Ukrainians would be against him but many root for the fucker despite everything he's done to the country.

>Look how many people suck on Putin's dick even though he's clearly threatening Western Europe constantly.

Russia literally has an army of paid shitposters that spam right-wing corners of the internet to create a pro-Putin culture. I'm not sure what the 1940s equivalent would be.

Back in the day, newspapers and radio.
I got my hand on some newspapers from that time, and they were presenting Hitler a bit like Trump supporters do today (the guy who gets shit done, no nonsense, proud, and so on).
If you don't have the spectre of the Holocaust as we do to keep things in check, this propaganda goes a long way.

Sadly the Putin shitposting army has succeeded to create this culture, it's not uncommon irl to see acquaintances supporting his speeches and positions (in France, where I am, I've seen many mates from high school veer into Putinism these last years).

>Hitler actually put money and resources in to France to rebuild (similiar to the marshall plan) and guaranteed France her colonial possessions and all of her land aside from Alcase-lorraine would be returned to her after Britian surrendered.

Considering he also looted most of it's treasury and chalked up all of France's wartime exports to Germany as "debts, never to be paid", that sounds just like the kind of retarded thing Hitler would do.

>Hitler was so commited to France and honoring his deal he refused Spain's offer to enter the war on the Axis side in exchange for parts of French Africa.

The bottom line is that Spain never want to join the war and had they really wanted it, they just could have. But Hitler did not want to pay the price it would take to have Spain enter the war.
Hitler pressured the Spanish to make a move on Gibraltar, but they never did because the British were supplying them via sea. A war with Britain would end those supplies.

Just saying "so many French people" is awfully simplistic. Most people just did what their legitimate (at the time) government ordered, and the rest joined the French resistance

>The bottom line is that Spain never want to join the war and had they really wanted it, they just could have.

I've heard that Admiral Canaris also had a hand in talking them out of it.

>replace synagogue floor because it's old, dull and moldy
>find thousands of dead babies beneath floor from the time it was a nazi brothel
FUCK

>Vichy France
>British ally

lmao

Mers El Kebir happened before Vichy

>Vichy France formed in 22 June 1940
>Mers El Kebir happened on 3 July 1940

Yea nah

Vichy was the best French regime since the Revolution. It was only opposed by communists and Jews at the time.

a meme made up for propaganda purposes after the war.

The assembly had every right to give power to Petain as it did to exist after radical forces stole power from Napoleon III.

Even more ironic is De Gaulle was made premier by a vote of the national assembly in an emergency.

The whole narrative you ahve is extremely biased to the victors.

Sounds like you guys are on the wrong board. This is Veeky Forums, not /x/.

this is autistic, why organize sex?
Germans are an ant colony

To prevent the spread of STD's.

Prostitution is organized today as well here.
Prostitutes are registered often in labour unions and require medical Czechs all some weeks. Of course they are also taxed and take part in the state insurances for health and pensions.

People don't talk about this much, but STDs were a large problem in WWI

Because Petain didn't want to put his country through the horrors of another huge war like he'd seen before.

but germans are autistic, it makes sense

Seriously, this thing needs to become a meme or something.

It's so gold, I can picture.

> open the closed synagogue
> horribly messy, disfigured
> horrid smell of stale sex and SS-branded condoms on the floor
> oy vey

To lower the chance of chimp outs like in the good old times.