What is the purpose of majoring in philosophy or history in the year 2016?

>being a school cuck
>when everything you can learn is online for free

The only reason why anybody should go to college is for a degree so you can get a better job. That and to piss away your youth partying.

>not going to school for free
do you live in some backwards-ass country or something? I live in the united states and the state paid for five years of education for me.

Why major in philosophy? It's certainly one of, if not the most important subjects you can learn in school, but why major? You could just major in something that can allow you to actually make a decent living while taking philosphy for elective credits. Why shoot yourself in the foot?

Just because you don't understand it's intrinsic value doesn't make it a viable degree to do.

>a philosophical education can be applied to and improves all aspects of your life
Except getting a job, of course. Seems like a large hole to me.

what do you mean? if you thoroughly understood existence and how humans work, you might not even need a job to obtain money, if getting money happened to be your goal. if you had a better philosophical education, you might be aware that "getting a job" isn't the pinnacle of mankind.

No, I've just started my theology program.
I've been in the field since you were in diapers, though.

The word 'useful' doesn't mean anything because 'use' is poorly defined.
It cannot be used for what? It does not have value to whom? Why then is the use of something towards X or the value of something towards person Y the sole determiner of something's merit?

Let's replace 'merit' with 'virtue' since merit also basically has no meaning: shouldn't the virtue of something be determined by the person undergoing the thing? Who else can determine if a goal is being achieved except the person directly related to the thing being used to achieve said goal?

The actual action of philosophizing is more virtuous than any natural science, because no natural science has achieved its ends or anything approaching it (indeed, it redefines its ends often) whereas philosophy's ends is basically just to conclude something based off of a thesis.

e.g.,
>Thesis: OP is a fa
>Evidence: I saw him willingly suck a line of dicks in the locker room last week and once it was my turn in line, I asked what his goal was and he stated "I am expressing how much of a fag I am."
>Conclusion: Because OP sucks dick, he is a fag because fags suck dick, and because he knows himself as a fag.

This has virtue because what purpose I have it (the thesis) was achieved.

No science can actually do this, so philosophy has more virtue than science.
Because you refuse to give any value statement and defend said value statement, we must refer to virtue because it has meaning unto itself.
Why?

You can't learn everything for free, you cannot be mentored for free. Do not speak, factory-school cuck.

Doing something for such a petty ends is no reason to do something.

Something ought to be done because it is vocational.

A decent living is not made through income.
This, the only time making money from a higher education is good, if the sole reason to go into higher education was to make money.

If one's goal was to be a party animal, but in actuality they never partied, never scored, but graduated with 300k starting, then they failed in their education.

If the ends does not meet the result then one has not done what they sought out to do.

You completely missed my point, so I guess your philosphy degree was a waste. Go figure, a philosophy major is a fucking moron.

My point was that you don't have to major in philosphy to take the courses and recieve the education a philosphy major recieves. You can still gain the same education while recieving a degree that will allow you to make money and get even more education.

>waste of a major trying to justify his NEET life

KEK

I majored in chemical engineering. I tested shampoos on animals for a while, and now I work two shifts a week at a bar and spend five days a week pursuing my hobbies and interests because it's more fun than filling out spreadsheets for forty hours a week. I'd like to go back to school and get a masters in philosophy. I don't need to justify anything, I'm satisfied. I'm simply trying to improve the board state of an image board I frequent by schooling retards like you who try to derive objective value from opinions somehow.

No dear, you missed my point.
>My point was that you don't have to major in philosphy to take the courses and recieve the education a philosphy major recieves.
Yes you do, any good school will have capstone courses only for that major, and extensive independent study courses also for that major.

You are poisoned by the Lutheran mindset. No, kiddo, you are not an island and you cannot learn without dialogue with others, a good mentor, and criticism of one's work so that it can, you know, actually develop.

One does not major in philosophy to read, one majors to eventually write themselves.

How do you afford to live on that, and afford to get that masters eventually?

If you actually think that everybody should just work part time jobs or no jobs at all, you really should go for a humanities related degree so you can learn just how fucking dumb that is.

>inb4 it'll totally work bro, we just need to be socialists or anarchists

>it's dumb because i said so
Reread my posts, please. There is more virtue to purposeful and vocational action than there is dead action.

How about you actually read into and read my entire posts you condescending twat. Let me simplify it for you because you seem too busy jarring your farts.

>non-meme degree = decent job
>decent job = money
>money = go get that meme degree

Part of being a fucking adult is learning to work toward a goal and being fucking patient. Don't just jump straight for what you want and hope you'll be one of the lucky few who doesn't get fucked.

Fuck you and the other guy for making me annoyed, I initially came into this thread open minded and on your side, but you're both such condescending cunts that I remembered why everybody hates humanities.

I make $800-1200 a month depending on the amount of tips I get. only costs me around $500-600 for bills and necessities. I don't need to pay for school because I live in a state that wishes it was a european country, the only reason I haven't gone back is because I'd rather move to a different city with a better uni first.

>If you actually think that everybody should just work part time jobs or no jobs at all
when did I say this? I prefer that most people get tricked into working full time jobs so that they can support the infratructure that I enjoy.

>just how fucking dumb that is.
by what objective metric? are you just sharing your opinion?

>No dear, you missed my point.
the condescension is palpable.

Go to a technical college if you want to learn practical skills. University is about models and methodologies.

ITT: STOP DOING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

I'm not studying history to get a job, I'm doing this because I want to. I already have a job, after I'm done with school I'll try to get a better one.

>Part of being a fucking adult
the actual definition of "adult" is a grown human. your definition is literally a spook. why should people do what you want them to do? do you have any reasoning to support this other than opinions and emotions?

>wahhhh my feewings got hurt so you're wrong!!

What is the purpose of posting this thread over and over in the year 2016?

Why didn't you post decent content?

I love you

>decent content
This statement has no meaning.

I graduated as a software engineer. But I have come to realize aside from programming there is not much going on upstairs. I think that while I have a good job and can sustain myself pretty much anywhere I want to live, I am also missing a very big chunk of my life. That is not to say I would put money into a degree into philosophy, but someone who has mastered the art is certainly gaining more out of life than me. I'm here to expand my interests and learn to tap into that curiosity, and I think philosophers have really acquired something that should be essential to an intellectual lifestyle that is worth living.

>Philosophy has the best handhold.
No, it doesn't. It just has more people wondering about it but they produce much less substantial work on counsciousness than scientists do.

>Something ought to be done because it is vocational.
>ought to be
drivel

>That is not to say I would put money into a degree into philosophy
Because you're rational.