Christianity or islam.why?

the muslims and neo-liberals are both kicking your fucking ass because theyre not hung-up about retarded memes like whiteness, user.

holy shit white nationalists are retarded.

Christianity because it's true

Secular islam>secular christianity>fundamentalist christianity>fundamentalist islam

whats example for secular islam?

>come on commie, the capitalists are kicking your arse because they're not hung up on retarded memes like public ownership of the means of production

If "winning" requires giving up the central tenet of your beliefs, it's not really winning, is it? And that's without considering the practical difficulties of joining a mosque where English isn't the natural language and the social order revolves around Pakistani tribal politics.

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Christian theology makes absolutely no sense. It was clearly made up as they went along with even more elaborate bullshit to cover up the contradictions. However, christian morality is, at it's core, fairly good.

Islam is the opposite, it doesn't require much bullshit to explain the theology, however the morals and practice of Islam is cancerous.

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extreme right-wingers are just as prone to infighting as the left, it would seem.

Alawites aren't muslim m8, not even they believe that.

yes they are

>alawites aren't muslim

stop saudiposting please

this religion is just made up.both of them

>eye for an eye is actually practiced
This isn't a good thing.

>Inb4 but christianity
The meaning of an eye for an eye in Christianity isn't what you think it is.

It's a bit of a stretch to call Islamism vs white nationalism infighting.

>eye for an eye is actually practiced
sauce mate or gtfo

I'm not the one who made the claim faggot. I only rolled with it.

Kys

takfiri on my his
s-m-h habib

The fuck are you talking about

More on the reactionary front but yeah. The fact that Salafists want to kill or repress non-muslims and /pol/ want to kill or repress non-whites and muslims kind of precludes any cooperation, regardless of how similar their doctrines are.

Not to mention that Salafist movements have a track record of actually killing people. For all their rhetoric, I'm pretty sure the average /pol/ user would have a crisis of belief if they went outside and a cute black girl smiled at them. I can't imagine a meeting between keyboard white nationalists and battle-hardened jihadis ending well.

>takfiris
>on my Veeky Forums

*Allahumma salli ala Muhammed Wali Muhammed intensifies*

It is by ISIS definitely, and probably some other salafists. There's some surah or hadith that says the punishment should match the crime or some shit. It's the reason behind some of their more bizarre torturous deaths.

I remember it being discussed because they burnt that Jordanian pilot. Death by burning is forbidden in Islam, but ISIS justified it by saying the pilot had burned people with his bombs, and that the "eye for an eye" surah or hadith was more important/authentic/recent whatever than the one that prohibited burning.

>every single muslim country is a shithole
>every single christian country bar ex commie ones are 1st world
haha rekt

Many of those battle-hardened jihadis started as twitter-muslims in France though. People can turn savage pretty quickly

>all those rich Christian nations are soulless consumerist wastelands which will fall to Islam by default once the ageing Christian population dies off

Haha, Islam sure got rekt huh?

if 'whiteness' is a central tenet of your beliefs you never really bought into the whole christianity concept m8. The concept of a 'white race' was developed during the colonial period by the same money-grubbing elites you now despise as a method of pseudo-scientific confirmation bias to justify their exploitation of the wogs. 'christendom' is at least a spook with some real history and honor behind it

Jesus Christ is a better role model than Muhammad, so I would say Christianity.

>first century jewish beta virgin nu-male too meek to even protest against his own execution
>role model

>waaaahhhhh converting to islam is too hard and I feel alienated around all these pakis even though they share my regressive patriarchal values

you sound like a fucking pussy dude

>all those rich Christian nations are soulless consumerist wastelands
The Arabian peninsula is the "soulless consumerist wasteland" par excellence, and also the home of fundamentalist Islam. I've been to Lebanon too, and it's not much different. Syria is supposed to be nice but it's literally a failed state, likewise Iraq. Turkey is lovely but it's the most secular in the middle east despite it's current ruling chimp. Same with the Maghreb.

I'm not seeing any correlation here 2bh phamme. The middle east over all is more consumerist than Europe, and probably around equal with the US.

>once the ageing Christian population dies off
Birth rates in the middle east are lower than christian African countries. African muslim countries are high too.

>you never really bought into the whole christianity concept

No shit. As I already said, the core tenant is white nationalism. Christianity was useful because (with the right interpretation) it could be used to unite countries, raise armies, justify Empire, blah blah blah - and most importantly, provide a working model for the family. It's no longer capable of even sustaining itself, much less moulding society.

And race does indeed exist, as everything from skin colour to sickle-cell anaemia to the 100-metre dash testifies. That we got it wrong in the 19th century doesn't make the concept irrelevant, any more than aether made physics irrelevant.

>And race does indeed exist
okay but why is it important?

Neither.

Anything aslong it isn't judaism or islam.

mormonism, best of both worlds :)))

Islam, Christianity is too weak.

Islam. Not even a competition.

A fairy tail god in the flesh.
An actual human that manipulated the minds of millions via religion to gain power and recognition.

Yeah Muhammad was based as fuck. He literally just altered the religion and made up stuff as he went along and gained millions of followers and fucked many honeys. He's the ultimate chad of mankind.

They're both based on Jew horseshit, so neither.

Now imagine if everyone went around manipulating people like Muhammad for their own gain.

Now imagine if everyone were like Jesus (impossible, I know) and loved their neighbour as they loved themselves, and forgave one another.

I know what ideal world I would want to live in.

Jesus from what universe? There's so many bibles which is which.

Move to Bosnia
Plenty of white Muslims there

Not islam.

Kill them all please. They are turning into Christian innovators

Islam is also anti-science and anti-free speech, so nope

Tbf, one of those scenarios are a reality and one is an unattainable fantasy

You wouldn't be posting on Veeky Forums right now if it weren't for Islamic scientists. You wouldn't have medicine or the foundations of the evolution theory.

Prophet #1
>turns water into wine at a wedding party, feeds 5000 people with 12 baskets of fish and bread, walks across a lake, and then raises a man from the dead by telling him "get up and walk."

Prophet #2
>goes into a cave escorted only by his child bride, comes out with a book that he claims was written by an angel

What else did Mohammad do to show people he was a prophet? Did he perform any miracles or guide many people towards better lives?

Was Islam absolutely vital to their discoveries? Could similar discoveries have not been made in that region by different Scientists had Islam never spread?

His child wife was years after that. His first wife escorted him and she was a much older widow.

I'm just stating that Islam doesn't oppose science

Anti science against Allah you can research anything as long as it doesnt disprove Allah.

Also to expand on that, most certainly the Islamic Scientists of the past followed a long gone, different interpretation of Islam, one that was influenced by Non-Islamic philosophy, from the interpretations of Islam widespread among Muslims today.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muʿtazila

Islam today isn't Islam from the prophets time. The ottoman empire needs to retake the throne and make Islam what it's meant to be again. Saudi can get fucked. They've done nothing but tarnish the religion of Islam to where Muslims can't even teach their kids about jihad anymore. They've been cucked by non Muslims and are limping dogs. Kill Saudi and their funded terrorist groups and everybody who helps them cover it up.

Islam. By 2100 it'll be #1 anyways - that's if WW3 doesn't take place

Spooking in a spook thread

You mean wahhabism not Islam as described by Muhammad

>Islam today isn't Islam from the prophets time
Islam was probably worse in Muhammad's time, what with it's aggressive expansion.

>The ottoman empire needs to retake the throne and make Islam what it's meant to be again.
Why the need to revive and decaying Empire that was put out of it's misery long ago? What was Islam supposed to be other than a vehicle for Muhammad and his friends to dominate Non-Arabs and other Arabs?

>They've done nothing but tarnish the religion of Islam
It wasn't exactly a jewel to be tarnished in the first place.

Sometimes, I realize Islam will be the first religion on Earth and the largest population will be Africans.
Islam is the most backward religion of them all, and African the most backward people of them all.

It's fucking sad.

How did we end up here, anons ?

/thread

>and African the most backward people of them all.
>he unironically thinks that north africans=black african niggers

nono

Why would any fanatically conservative, hierarchical, anti-degenerate, and ideologically militant religion, movement, ideology, or political entity be pro-science and free speech? That's as nonsensical as claiming fascist romanticism or Nazi mysticism or Maoist "anti-revisionism" or what have you were pro-science and free speech.

Literally the same religion. So it doesnt matter.

So basically anything relevant to the modern world.

Christians literally believe the earth was fucking 6000 years old

I meant the Sub-Saharan Africans and you know it. They make over 80% of total African population and it's growing as fecondity of North Africans is going down.

I still prefer them to the wannabe Arabs tho.

They're both shit. Greco-Roman Pantheism is the only good choice in history.

christian ofc
muslim
>giving excuse to kill someone
unreal!

Christianity because Jesus was a great man while Muhammad was an illiterate pedophile and mass murderer.

It's possible if you trust in the Holy Spirit.

im not an atheist or any other thing outside the religion but i think you wasting your time arguing about something that is quite useless

>implying we won't just proselytize at them and convert them

I'm half-convinced this is the real reason Francis supports the refugees. He's tired of dealing with all the atheists in Europe, and he figures he's better off flooding the continent with devout people, even if they're not Christians, because there's a better chance of reawakening the faith with them.

>the average /pol/ user would have a crisis of belief if they went outside and a cute black girl smiled at them

Christianity.
It got reformed and isn't stuck in some beackwards medival state.

>islam will become the same degenerate shit that catholic has become
feel good man.

>whine about how liberals give Islam a free pass
>see this

I take it all back. Dammit Islam, you were supposed to offer an alternative to our brave new liberal utopia, not bow down to it.

As a /pol/tard I can't wait for this delusion that we need to fight the Muslims to break.

This

But were already assisting Saudi in spreading their version of Islam and killing real Muslims.

Neither.

Refugees, sure. General Muslim population? Not quite. There's a reason Muslims in the West appear more devout than Muslims in the East. They see how much their faith is at risk so they exemplify it as much as possible. It's also why a lot of people misconceive the progeny of Muslim immigrants in the West to be more "secular" which is not the case. They might have hold more secular beliefs, but if they're parents were religious, faith will become their first identify. And that's happening right now to most Muslim youth.

I'm sure the same is happening with Christian youth. Just not the Christian population as a whole.

>/pol/ddit
>free speech

Real Islam has never been tried

If you are a genuine monothiest Islam is literally the only option

How is this even possible? It's against their doctrine, which is supposed to be even more important in comparison to other religions?

youtube.com/watch?v=fj8S6Hd-5bk

Liberation and trying to separate themselves from wahhabism

then they are not muslims. They are just motheistic deists that wear degrading clothes.

The way Muslims dress is about modesty. Its only degrading to unironic feminists.

guys this girl said she wants me to fug her brains out but my pastor said sex before marriage is a sin and i needed to accept christianity or islam and live according to gods law

i'm so confused what do i do?