Russian conservative monarchists are super pissed about an upcoming Russian film, 'Matilda,' which purports to tell the story of Nicholas II's affair with a teenage ballerina before his marriage.
They are trying to get the film banned for "offending religious sensibilities," on account of Nicholas II being canonized in Russian Orthodoxy.
Movie trailer: youtube.com
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Duma Deputy Natalya Poklonskaya, the former Russian chief prosecutor in the occupied Ukrainian region of Crimea, will file a legal request with authorities about the film.
She's a super monarchist who, for some reason, decided to carry an icon of Nicholas II during an Immortal Regiment march to celebrate the defeat of the Nazis... which is meant to celebrate the fallen soldiers and veterans of WWII.
When did she get into the Duma?
>Ukrainian region
no such thing
>Westerners cry that Russians are still commie
>data that conservative and traditionalist thought is emerging in Russia becomes impossible to deny
>Westerners cry that Russians are evil fascists
Just admit it, you'll hate us no matter what we do.
The actress is Polish, named Michalina Olszańska. She has a nice body of work tbqh.
She played in a horror movie called The Lure about carnivorous sirens, which was shitty but was for some reason well liked in Sundance last year. Some reason being boobies mostly.
So she's a Christfag autist. Who knew?
>We get the conservative cuties, while you get the cumdumpsters
So is the reality, atheicuck
I guess I hit a nerve there. I meant it more as a compliment than anything.
They're not the same Westerners, and even those in the same ideological movements can hate Soviet-style communism for different reasons. A lot of Western leftists hated the totalitarian aspect of Soviet communism, for instance, while a lot of Western rightists didn't mind the totalitarian part so much as they did the socialist component. Now many Western leftists hate the fascist, conservative, and oligarchic elements arising in your nation, while the rightists either think you're based or that you're a threat to their comfy lives and the ambitions of their nations.
I don't hate you, laddo.
t. ukip voter
>Russian conservative monarchists are super pissed
lol who gives a shit
movie looks really cool. too bad it'll get banned
but only americans ever panicked about muh communism
europe just hates you because you're awful
Nobody thinks Russia is "still commie," just that is still authoritarian, undemocratic, and expansionist, run by a corrupt cabal that violently squashes dissent and antagonizes its neighbors to distract from incompetent leadership and crippling domestic problems.
They should, Nicholas II was a righteous and holy man who did absolutely nothing wrong. The Russian Revolution was the 20th century's greatest crime.
Everyone hates everyone in Europe, anyway.
He wasn't known as Bloody for nothing.
>they hate us if we conquer half of europe
>they hate us if we invade european countries
>Just admit it, you'll hate us no matter what we do.
Can she get any more based?
>She's a super monarchist who, for some reason, decided to carry an icon of Nicholas II
Noice
>russia is not currently at least a constitutional monarchy of some kind
Someone explain this
>>russia is not currently at least a constitutional monarchy of some kind
Because then they'd go full good goy and the Tsar would refuse to let Putin rule. Or the Tsar would just be ruled by Putin, which would arguably be just as bad.
You guys really that disillusioned with parliamentary gridlock that you'd prefer a return to monarchy?
Why would Putin refuse to let himself rule???
> Elected by the mongrel masses
> No shred of royal blood
> Allowed to rule
You're not ready for Monarchy, user.
Monarchies can have parliaments too y'know, there's literally no reason for contemporary Russia not to have at least a symbolic monarchy, especially now that the government is trying to paint itself as some sort of conservative protector of Orthodoxy
I would say the question of succession often making the 2016 US election look like a well-oiled machine would be a strong reason.
But maybe that's a small price to pay for 80 years under the same executive.
> Elected by the mongrel masses
So... Like Romanovs?
> symbolic monarchy
> Russia
Stalin was also just (((symbolic))) secretary
And who are to replace the modern day boyars in the sobor? Oil executives with ties to foreign money?
>Nicholas is on holiday having bants with George probably
>peasants march up to winter palace, militia like
>guards get spooked by the ghost of Stirner
>shoot protestors
FTFY
GOOD, people have believed in freedom of speech too long, they need to know barriers exist, especially against the One with True Banter
Communist Party is still the second most popular party in Russia
> Omnipotent being
> Giving a single toss about blasphemy
Sounds to me like it's the groupies that can't stand the bantz.
> needing to defend God All Mighty himself against mere words
It is like you are didn't believe him or something.
She's real!!!
>which purports to tell the story of Nicholas II's affair with a teenage ballerina before his marriage.
>affair
>before marriage
Is it really that weird that a guy this handsome had more than 1 girl?
The Orthodox canonizing Nicholas II is one of the reasons I really can't take them seriously as a sect. I mean he wasn't exactly St. Louis or Edward the Confessor.
He was canonizing for being dead like most of the mortiers.
no. she has finally reached the basedness singularity. interesting times ahead.
>on account of Nicholas II being canonized in Russian Orthodoxy.
Because no orthodox ruler or saint has ever done bad stuff during the earlier periods of their life.
Oh, right...
wtf I hate natalya now
then you have no soul.
He wasn't really killed for his faith, though.
Debatable, considering he was murdered because of his symbolic power as a rallying point for the old Christian regime by the agents of an explicitly atheistic regime.
God bless her
You missed the part in which peasants were led by secret police's agents.
So... What the fuck his master plan here?! To trick them into peaceful protest that would be murdered and start the literal revolution?
checkmate
Love affair is synonymous with fling, liaison,, amour, etc. Doesn't have to mean you're married and fucking someone else.
I still don't see how it would be offensive so suggest that he may have had a girlfriend when he was younger.
In context, it's not "oh he had a girlfriend when he was younger." The concept of having a "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" didn't exist in that sense in Imperial Russia. You were either with someone who was courting you specifically for marriage, or you weren't together at all. So for the future tsar to have a fling with some Polish dancer when he was eligible for marriage and was supposed to marry someone of royal origin... didn't fly. Mistresses were also notorious for having the "ear" of whomever it was they were fucking, so they were considered to be dangerous by members of the Imperial family. See Catherine, Tsar Alexander II's mistress and later wife.
Although Mathilde was a respected ballerina, she was fairly well despised in Russian social circles. The famous ballet master Pepita, for instance, called her a "nasty little swine," and that was one of his nicer insults for her. She's well known for being a bitch to anyone she considered a rival--she once released live chickens on stage, hoping to fuck up one of her best rivals during a critical performance. The rival performed perfectly despite the chickens and was hailed with applause... whomp whomp, Mathilde.
Like most mistresses, she used sexual liaisons with aristocratic men to gain property, luxurious jewelry, expensive clothing. And in her case, a greater hold on the ballet company in the Imperial Theater.
Good. No space for Jewish tricks to dismantle culture.
Petipa, not Pepita. Close enough.
I feel like Nicholas would have been pissed that she did this.
>she once released live chickens on stage, hoping to fuck up one of her best rivals during a critical performance.
>The rival performed perfectly despite the chickens and was hailed with applause... whomp whomp, Mathilde.
Huh, maybe the movie should be about the other girl. I mean, I probably wouldn't watch it, but still.
I do have to admit, it does make her look like kind of an obsessed fan-girl.
Are there any direct Romanov descendants left? The only direct Romanov that fled was Archduke Mikhail. IDK if he had a son...
It's super fucking spooky when you put him next to George V and Kaiser Wilhelm II. They look like brothers.
Based mummy.
I don't hate you, I pity you. Russians just can't seem to ever get it right.
It was instrumental in reconciling the ROCOR, who are extremely monarchist. While Nicholas was already popularly venerated for a long time among the laity (which is always what set the precedence first, among the Orthodox), his canonization (which just means adding him to the calendar) expressed concretely the Russian Church's opposition to the Russian Revolution. Since the ROCOR was mainly made up of Whites, this reassured them enough to restore communion.
>Russian CG
I'd watch a movie about old timey ballerina rivalries. Mathilde coached Anna Pavlova in a role that she thought wouldn't suit her (because Pavlova didn't fit the typical Russian ballerina physical type) but Pavlova's unique physicality ended up winning audiences over and she quickly became a favorite of Petipa. Oh Mathilde, you do try...
Last month
She will take over after Putin
So its OK to canonize someone for primarily political reasons?
Whats going to happen if the laity start venerating a heretic?
The culmination of the Russian Revolution is overtly anti-religious. That's politics that overlaps with the Church's domain.
The laity don't venerate anyone who isn't Orthodox, and I don't think we ever have to worry about them widely doing that.
This is an aside, but is anyone getting a weird problem where certain cyrillic letters don't appear correctly? For instance, the link in OP's image reads Mamul'da.
You can get away with it if you're a total QTpie
So was governing the papal states, but not many modern Catholic would justify the wars and torture that required.
My point being that making someone a saint to placate some political extremists has little to do with the City of God and a lot to do with the city of Man.
No, governing the Papal States has nothing to do with the Church, because the Church is not a state and never should be, and the Church has no business acting as a state government.
ROCOR aren't just some "political extremists". They fled Russia because the Bolsheviks were homicidally anti-religious. The reason they broke communion with the Church in Russia, is because they were concerned that the Russian Church came under control of the Bolsheviks. Which never really happened, but they had good reason to fret.
Because they are all cousins.
Why are there still super conservative Russian monarchists?
What the fuck do they want, a corpse-tsar, or are the just LARP-
Oh wait, answered my own question.
I would assume that some of the White émigré community came back to Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union.
You have to understand there is a huge difference between being a saint in the Orthodox Church and Catholic Church.
only edgelords
In Russian Orthodoxy, a saint is anyone who is in heaven.
The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad canonized them as saints and new martyrs, which are people who died under heretical rule for their faith.
The russian Orthodox Church canonized them as saints and passion bearers, which are people who faced their death in a Christ-like manner, but were not explicitly killed for their faith.
>In Russian Orthodoxy, a saint is anyone who is in heaven.
That is true for Catholics as well, but before they are accepted as cannon there are alot of bench marks they are supposed to pass
>What the fuck do they want
Remember everyone we back in the shit by basically pissing off europan people and stepping on everyones toes
Not so much anymore, ever since JP's cutting the red tape. Now the RCC canonizes people way more than Orthodox. For the Orthodox, canonized means put on the calendar.