TFW fell for the sham of living with my parents and being a manchild instead of moving out by 20-21

>I dont understand why you want to move out

Because it's difficult to imagine that some people don't get along with their parents or they live in an undesirable area for employment in their field?

Sales in my case. But id imagine even something like a forklift license would you put over normies.

If you only save it, and thats it - no it won't. You gotta have an eye to spot good opportunities and balls to take them, thats where extra cash comes in.

Yeah sales if you're good at it, not that it's that hard. I was going more for hourly positions w/o commission.

even a forklift license will barely get you above 10 bucks an hour. our parent's non skill living wage jobs are a thing of the past.

I was able to hit like $1600 a month saved for a years time or so. It's nice because now, after a lot of studying, have started to open another revenue stream that brings several hundred to $1000+ a month with very little effort. Obviously not groundbreaking amounts, but definitely something worth the bare minimum effort I need to put in to make it happen.

Saving alone won't let you reap the benefits. You need to take advantage of the extra time and money and turn it into an opportunity. That's were your edge of living at home kicks in. Otherwise, yes, you are right, just living at home and saving doesn't give you that much of a leap on others.

This

After uni (college) I worked for 2.5 years and saved 50% of my salary. So this meant I had 2.5 years of time to make use of without a job if I wanted.

I quit my job 9 months ago, went travelling for 2, and have since build an online business that keeps growing every month.

Compare this to my friends, who work 60hrs per week, pay extortionate rents (because that's where the jobs are), and have credit card debt and buy stuff like cars on finance. They've blown the opportunity to ever take time out and start a business - too many responsibilities, etc.

Hey user I'm having trouble finding inspiration for a business what kind of things inspired or guided you to opening your own business?

if you'd have actually lived on your own for a while you'd realize you're saving a looot more than just the $1000 for rent
and yes, being able to save 90% of your income instead of just 50-60% or 5% like normie idiots will absolutely put you ahead of them, especially the ones who are insecure about muh independence

Just start

Once you start a business you realise how easy it is

You realise that most businesses are headed by ignorant boomers too stubborn to embrace technology

I'm not talking about IBM, Walmart, etc. (although these can be dethroned) - I'm talking about mid-sized businesses in obscure industries

I don't want to give you my ideas, but I have about 20 domains I want to build businesses around - only problem is I don't have time to create them all at once

What are you interested in? You can literally build a business around any hobby - the more obscure, the better

Tell me your interests, and I will tell you how to make a business from them. The first step is registering a domain and paying for web hosting.

Not him but.

Hiking, gaming, map-making, traveling.

Nice
I would stay away from travelling and gaming - and probaby hiking too - these are too competitive. This is not to say you couldn't build a business around them, but it will take longer to start seeing results and you'll likely lose interest before it takes off.

Map making sounds brilliant. I have no idea what it actually entails in practice but it sounds like a perfect niche.
>Register domain name
>Get hosting for wordpress site, pick a simple theme
>Start writing blog posts around questions people who are into map making will ask - make them the most detailed resource on the web for each topic
> Once you start getting decent traffic, download woocommerce and list some products for sale
>See which ones people buy, which ones they don't. Refund customers saying sorry the item is out of stock
>Get on alibaba and buy small quantities of the items that people were interested in
> Sell them via your site

Porn, 3d models, anime, tabletop games, hiking

What's good about selling products via your own site is you don't have to compete on price aas much. When you sell on Amazon, it's a race to the bottom and profit margins get squeezed. You can get decent volume but a couple of returns and you've made a loss - not worth it.

Like I said, I don't know anything about map-making, so I can't recommend products. To help, though, ask: what products do you use for map making? What would you like from a website about map-making? It also doesn't have to be directly related to making maps - if map-making involves mapping local terrain, people interested in map-making may be interested in hiking gear, or cameras, or something. You may have to think a little laterally when it comes to products.

Good luck - it sounds like an excellent (and interesting) niche.

>Porn, 3d models, anime, tabletop games, hiking
Hiking probably quite competitive
Porn is too general - everyone watches it and so it's difficult to target products. You may be able to make money via advertising
Anime, I don't really know anything about. Maybe you could sell those pillows or whatever weebs like
Tabletop games is probably quite a good one

3D models is probably your best bet though. People searching for topics related to 3D products are likely to be heavily motivated to BUY stuff to make 3D models. So, you start writing about 3D models and then test products related to this niche on you site once you have a decent amount of traffic

Cannabis, as /drug fiend/ as that sounds I've been around it all my life growing up and I don't mean in the drug abuse sense. How edibles are made and etc really fascinates me.

>be a leaf
>also be in hipster toronto
>average rent for 1 bedroom is $800 or $600 if you're willing to rent a single room or basement.
>average rent for a 2 bedroom apartment is $1450
>min wage earns you $1000 to 1800 a month
i'm not giving away half of my money. fuck that. gonna live with my mom until i can move out with a qt girl

I'd have to say though your original post has been very thought provoking for me as I'm still trying to figure out my passions.

Fomula is the same for all these hobbies, you need 2 things:
- traffic
- products

You get traffic by making content that is useful to people who search stuff related to your niche on google
Example: how to grow weed on your bedroom window
^people probably search that exact phrase, but I doubt there is a resource specifically answering it

People searching for this question are also highly likely to want to buy seeds, bongs, papers, stuff like that. So you just set up a shop and sell that stuff for more than you pay for it!

That's good. I am thinking of making a new site and an accompanying weekly youtube series that talks through what I'm doing to grow the site and make money. I will set a target of like $10,000 revenue per month within a year, which I think is definitely achievable.

I used to browse Veeky Forums and think it was impossible to make money for myself, that I was always destined to be a wage slave. Now I realise the competition isn't nearly as hard as I built it up in my mind. It takes work, of course, but not as much work as forging a career in a competitive field (e.g. accounting or law). However, having your own business is so much better (and probably more profitable in the long run) than these kinds of normie careers (I should say I had a pretty normie career myself before I quit my job to do this)

Sounds great, how would we find you though?

>A majority of americans don't have $500 in savings
>$1000 saved a month isn't much
Yeah, ok.

What was your career? And did it have any influence on your businesses?

You just said what I've known deep down for years but have never actually considered because it's depressing.

>$1000 at most per month saved isn't going to put you tremendously ahead of others.

$1000/month in an S&P index fund over 10 years

but sure, alternatively you can lease a dumb BMW and flush rent down the drain

I'll post it on Veeky Forums when I start. I'll probably start it in about 6 months time but I have a few things I want to get set up first, such as buying an apartment and automating my current site. Once that's set up I'll be able to dedicate a ton of time to it. I know what the niche will be, but I don't want to set an ambitious target, start doing it, and then lose a month or so because moving house or whatever.

Going back to the question of what is your passion, I think helping people set up businesses will be mine - much more so than actually making my own. The reason being is that while I'm not a typical Veeky Forums neet autist I always hated being a wage slave and can relate to a lot of people on here. I literally thought it was impossible to ever escape wage slavery so for the longest time I never even tried. Looking back, quitting my job was such an important decision - if I never did it I would always be wondering 'what if', getting increasingly bitter about my wage slave situation and lack of control over my life

I was a programmer for 2 years (hated it), then an SEO copywriter for 6 months. Obviously, the latter job had a huge influence on what I do now, the former not so much (although I did save lots of money during those 2 years)

Pic related is my parcels after a bunch of orders. I'm not rich by any means but I know what works to grow an audience online, I know now that I just need to do more of it

One other thing I wanted to say with regards helping people set up businesses: There are a ton of people out there (e.g. Tai Lopez) who are essentially scammers and bullshitters. I want to do an honest, practical youtube series (for free) that helps intelligent but underachieving neets do something productive with their lives - because I know what it's like to be in that situation

The most useful realization I had in the last years was that if a business idea is likely to be mocked by most people, it is worth investigating.
This paid off 2x for me so far.

Are you trying to shill me memecoins?

No

Only if your parents cover every other expense, which is rare.

>map making
>what is google maps

I would be inclined to agree - at least in theory. People are generally hugely conformist and treat any exciting ideas as 'weird'. Much safer to take that regular 60hr PW accountancy job @ $70,000 PA than explore an original thought and take a risk.

What are your businesses that have paid off 2x? I have a few 'out there' ideas myself but these will be far more expensive to get going with. At the moment my products are pretty ordinary (see my 'formula' above) but the websites are often quite well differentiated, which is how I think I've managed to get an audience.

I know, right. The only function of a map is to get you from A to B. Pic related would be vastly improved with a printout of Google maps

they're not going to make you cover the one time expenses you forgo living in an already supplied and furnished place as well as the multiple recurring expenses that home ownership entails, of which rent is only one piece

if your expenses are reduced to helping out around the house and contributing the the grocery budget I don't see how that's rare or not a massive reduction in living expenses

i lived on my own but now that I'm back with them I pay for:
gas, phone, insurance, contribution to groceries

that's it
that's something like $300-$400 a month TOTAL

>SEO copywriter

Sounds interesting, what do you need to earn money from this?

In America, don't you go off to college and stay in a dorm / privately rented apartment all provided by mommy and daddy / massive loan?

>t. in debt

How do you set up a shop though? That's the difficult part.

I think the point was that you only really save on rent. And yes it's probably about $1000/month. Many people have degenerate poorfag parents with whom it'd be best to cut all ties with ASAP.

By staying at home you don't have to bear the full costs of furnishing an entire living space, kitchen supplies, other household supplies, food, utilities, garbage, cable/internet, renters' insurance, etc. that's WAY more than $1000/month, and if it is that low for you than I'd rather live with my parents than live like a hobo with an apartment

>Many people have degenerate poorfag parents with whom it'd be best to cut all ties with ASAP.
yes but many people have typical fuddy duddy suburban folks who are just fine, like the parents from Jimmy Neutron or Dexter's Lab

>tfw 24 and live with my parents
>invest 40k/yr
>70k invested ATM
>no debt
>take two 2week vacations every year
>work out
>read
>woke about roasties so no fucks given that I miss out on barsluts
>hang out with friends

Keep trying Chaim

You are probably poor

>If you actually knew....

How do you get 10% anually?

>How do you get 10% anually?
How do you not?

dude 1000 a month is crazy. Although living in god tier city means that average rent for me is 2k. Luckily or not I live at home. Hopefully will be making 60-80k a year in 2018 which 50% of will be saved completely. After taxes that's about 20k I'll be saving each year.

i think in usa at least 50% live with their parents untill 25 yo

Try Shopify or bigcartel. Both make it really easy