How am I supposed to feel excited about getting my degree and starting my wagecuck life if I won't even be able to buy myself a nice sportscar when I get out of uni?
All my salary will go to: > saving up for a house > saving up if I get married > saving up for the kids' university > saving up for retirement I fell for the engineering degree meme, I thought it was worth it and engineers had a good life. Should have went into finance or some shit, maybe law. And I thought I'd be driving around in a camaro, making my friends jealous once I get out of uni. Turns out my hairdresser friend who started working earlier than me will have more money than me as a fucking engineer
Colton Baker
What, engineers get paid well
Austin Roberts
Wtf kind of shit nation do you live in? I'm 25 and a software Engineer, and i make 75k in Norway with 29% tax
Jace Rivera
>marriage >kids Don't kid yourself
Carson Roberts
>Should have went into finance or some shit, maybe law. And you think those fields are any better? No wonder you fell for the engineering meme in the first place. Stop following the crowd and think for yourself!
Go to any university and you'll find most of the best and brightest pursuing careers in these fields - in other words supply>demand = prices go down. You'd think if these students were so smart they'd pursue something less competitive
Samuel Perry
So if the demand in a field is exceeding supply, prices in that field will go up and it's smart to choose your degree accordingly?
Lincoln Roberts
Don't really understand your question. What I meant was: >Everyone says engineering/law/accountancy are good careers >So everyone picks subjects that lead to careers in these fields >This leads to a massive supply of students for these jobs >So employers don't have to provide good salaries to attract graduates. After all, the supply is huge so each student is easily replacable
What actually happens in practice is most employees in these fields get an average or slightly above average salary - which sounds good on paper. But employers know employees are completely expendable and so make them work VERY long hours. Pro rata, pay is terrible
Why didn't you study biochem? Or petroleum engineering? Or nutrition? Or - here's a crazy thought - something you actually thought was interesting? Answer: you were too lazy to think for yourself and chose the degree everyone said would lead to a well paying job. Congratulations, you're now stuck working 60hrs per week at a job you have no interest in for the rest of your life.
You could always quit and start a business, or do something you actually find interesting - but you won't. You've competed so hard against the other students, and accumulated so much debt in the process that doing so would be like admitting defeat.
Jonathan Myers
> saving up for a house > saving up if I get married > saving up for the kids' university > saving up for retirement
you should have realized by freshman year that if this is what you want, then you are banishing yourself to a lifetime of mediocrity you will live in a shitty suburb of a shitty city trying to keep up with the joneses
it's like you don't even understand the value of the degree you hold or what you actually learned in school maybe that's because you were a mediocre student and a dumb, pencil pushing wagecuck job is all you'll ever have
David White
Man you guys are rough.
Keep strong user, do what you enjoy and shit will probably turn out okay.
Dominic Perez
>Turns out my hairdresser friend who started working earlier than me will have more money than me as a fucking engineer A good hairdresser can make 5k/month clean working his own business and since its cash its all his, while you're gonna have a 30% tax deduction to support him later on, cuck
Auto mechanic (shop owner) is also a based career. Everyone pays in cash
Michael Cooper
>do what you enjoy and shit will probably turn out okay That's the whole point though: he didn't pick something he enjoyed. He was basically peer pressured into engineering by the sounds of things.
If he'd done what he enjoyed, maybe he'd be in a situation like describes. Instead, he's taken the conventional path and is surprised to find that the conventional path yields conventional results.
Zachary Young
I have an opposing view to the other person you quoted I don't agree with "doing what you like" even as a child I knew my tastes change and that hardly any kid has intense passion for something that will last their lifetime
so, to the ridicule of every teacher (education majors are poors) I looked up the most lucrative majors and picked one after researching a few, and landed on electrical engineering
but if I had kept with the program just so that at the end of it I could plop all my income on a stupid bitch and her sons and a mortgage on a plywood shitshack in the suburbs of kansas city I absolutely would have dropped out or eaten a bullet
if that's all OP can think of doing I suggest he eat a bullet instead
Jordan Perez
>thinking you deserve a sport car and nice shit simply because you lazed your way to a degree in an in demand field you're pathetic. think for yourself and work your ass off. learn to generate value and not just mindlessly sulk your way through life thinking that just because you got a fucking piece of paper you deserve a wealthy meaningful life
you're a pathetic cunt
James Cooper
Chiming in with what several people already have mentioned but it seems like you're priorities are scattered. Maybe take some time and decide what you really want out of your allowance here on Earth. It's all just a ride to the grave.
Ethan Gonzalez
>oh boo hoo it turns out i have to work for my shit
youre going to go far in life user
Kayden Green
did I stumble onto some chick's instagram account? get real faggot
Chase Watson
this is the epitome of fucking irony
> everyone said i should study this, i cant believe i fell for the meme > now i will have to do what everyone says i should and get a wagecuck job that i hate > everyone is also saying that i should do these things like having a house and getting married right now, so i will do them, why is life so hard!!!!!!
Samuel Reyes
OH boy i missed one
> everyone says that having a sportscar should make me happy, and now i wont have one, WHAT SHOULD I EVER DO!!!!!
also the fact that you say > making my friends jealous makes it fucking obvious how much of a tool you are, those aren't even your friends to start with
Benjamin Reed
Why are you guys so mean
Matthew Robinson
shut your cunt mouth and fuck off to someother cunthole site like yahoo answers if you don't like it faggot.
Josiah Rodriguez
Cause you're a piece of shit complaining like a little Nigger. Want my advice? Drop out of college and join a union
Elijah Adams
Bro, make different plans. Your making cash now, you can do whatever the fuck u want to. Fuck that faggity, retirement, wife bullshit.
Mason Butler
>note to self: never ask advice on Veeky Forums ever again
Nathaniel Sullivan
If only there was an entire board related to advice...
It's like you want us to think you're retarded
Liam Perry
You're just the ultimate cuck, at least you realize that most dont.
>saving up for a house Be very careful buying a house atm, the market is at danger in both usa and europe. Consider rent
>myself a nice sportscar when I get out of uni Probably wont make you any happier unless you are a car euthanist who lives track driving etc. if you live driving or racing then consider
>I fell for the engineering degree meme, I thought it was worth it and engineers had a good life. Should have went into finance or some shit, maybe law.
All mentioned above are badly overrated. The herd is wrong. If majority do something do not follow it becomes a tough route by a law of nature, you will be competing with too many in similar situation
>starting my wagecuck life 9to5 probably will not make you very happy in the end
Owen Brown
>marriage >kids >sports car
You're supposed to stay single and get the sports car you dumbass.
Easton Ortiz
Well that was my initial plan but then some cuck came around in another thread and told me >"no, you have to think about getting married, saving up for a house and the kids' education, don't buy a car that is more than 15k" Hence I made this thread
Jacob Adams
>some cuck came around in another thread and told me
is this what all of your life decisions consist of?
Jaxson Cruz
Depends on how well you'll be doing on money, and how extravagantly you'll be spending it.
Buy the MrMoneyMustache meme. Spend as little as possible on finding the best, most efficient $/value for all things.
Want a fun car? Consider a motorcycle. Consider a barely above econobox vehicle, unless you're really going to take it to the track.
Want a house? Consider not buying a 400k mansion you fucking tard, and instead getting a 100k condo.
Hunter Peterson
And then, after you're living well below your means and investing the difference, buy your freedom from wage slavery.
Or pretend you have autism.
Xavier Powell
>literally the hardest undergrad degree you can get >$55k salary >well paid What?
Lincoln Watson
>buy your freedom from wage slavery. How? With passive income?
Luis Jenkins
what the fuck are you comparing it with lmao
also medicine is the hardest undergrad
Elijah Cox
Mansion >$400k Wut? I live in a $400k condo that isn't even in a good part of town where i live. We cannot all live in Montana, USA
Asher Campbell
Yes. Or landlording, or building a business.
The 4% rule. Save up 25x your annual expenses/reduce your annual expenses.
Kayden Murphy
I live in phoenix. Picked up 1700sqft for 210k, and could pick up a condo for 100-120k.
Cooper Price
I know that feel. Right now I'm suffering through whether to spend $1.2M for a beach house or a nicer home more inland. If I knew I was going to be put through these grueling decisions, I would have just gone to trade school or become a journalist.
BTW, screw the sports car, you want a high end luxury vehicle.
Anthony Green
same, i wish i were poor so i didn't have to take stress so much over this shit, it's fucking horrible, and the worst part is that poor ppl just dont get it
Nolan Garcia
>also medicine is the hardest undergrad That is objectively false. Medical school is challenging, yes, but an undergrad degree in biology is frat-boy tier.
Levi Diaz
is pre-med what you would call undergrad? pre-med isnt a degree in biology bro
Julian Brooks
They don't seem to, the ones I know are constantly fucking complaining, the ones who arn't have left to take on business roles, I get the impression they all took eng thinking its easy money
Nathaniel Perez
should add those who transitioned to business are now on solid figures
Grayson Perry
Biology is the usual degree most pre-med students get. "Pre-med" is just an intended educational path after you graduate, not a major.
Christian Hughes
Do you live in Europe or some other shithole? US engineers in almost every field get paid very well. On the very low end is 40k but the average is usually 60 or 70k. Depending on where and what you work you could be starting at 100k and going up to 150k after some years. Work as a financial engineer and enjoy never being home but almost making 200k starting with bonuses up to 500k.
Joshua Adams
>Won't even be able to buy myself a nice sportscar when I get out of uni
Don't fall for the new car meme, and not only that you are a dumbass if you think the average uni grad can buy a sportscar right off the bat.
Buying luxury items like that usually only lead to more problems. Learn to save your money and use your money to make more money. Having no parents or family to help me out hardwired my brain into getting dopamine hits just from making my bank account grow. Doesn't matter if I don't own much. Just don't go into debt and relax knowing you have a huge safety net in case shit hits the fan.
Mason Clark
>I don't like the answers I recieved so I will ignore then
Liam Scott
>That picture 10/10 rage-inducing. I hope she's starved to death by now.