I´m a anti-commie guy.
All life i think that the Nazi party was leftiest.So,over the last days,i went through some reflections,and i realized that the NSDAP,was of extreme-right.
Just because they have Workers in the name don´t mean that they actually are from Left.
But i want your opinion Veeky Forums.They were Left or Right?
Fascism doesn't really fit in the left-right paradigm, but if you HAD to pick one, it's clearly much more "right" than "left". The core of fascism is ultranationalism, in stark contrast to the internationalism of the left.
the radical leftist component was purged in the night of long knives
still, Hitler wasn't exactly a muh free enterprise kind of guy
I know this is fucking bait but yeah, NSDAP was extremely right wing for a variety of reasons, but it did have some extreme left wing policies such as an extremely high corporate tax. However, this corporate tax was part of a bigger deal they struck with companies where they gave some companies lucrative deals when usurping foreign industrial value post-conquests, IG Farben for instance, and extremely profiteable government contracts.
So yeah, whenever in doubt ask yourself this;
Is the movement ideologically Nationalist or Internationalist? From this you can deduce your answer.
However, at the end of the day, Far Right or Far Left are both misleading and useless monikers because any regime that operates on the extreme tends to be totalitarian in nature and by then ideas are nothing more than just tools to fool the masses.
>nationalist vs internationalist
I always assumed this was just a /pol/ meme.
fascism is authoritarian, but combines elements of leftist and rightist thought. I like the definition of fascism as (highly idiosyncratic) authoritarian centrism.
No, Nationalism usually go together Conservative values and xenophobia. Internationalism usually transcend borders and instead vilify some form of real or imagined elite (Class struggle) rather than other culture.
This is, of course, the traditional take on it. However countries hit by civil wars will always inject a large dose of nationalism into their ideology, no matter where they stand, which is why so much of SE Asia is dominated by "Nationalistic Communism".
thanks OP, i needed karma on my FULLCOMMUNISM account over reddit.
hahaha
You're welcome.
This is your best answer in the thread
>Left, right, up, down, center, offright, slightly faded.
I think it is ridiculous to put them on a chart. Fascism was protectionist of its workers, very concerned about race and country, used some slave labor (fuedalist) and authoritarian (obviously).
We need to stop calling it "left" and "right", it is authoritarian and libertarian, socialist and privitist (if that is a word?) and nationalist or internationalist.
pure ideology
what is the pic?
Historically there were three factions to the Nazi Party: revolutionaries, aristocrats, and bourgeois.
The revolutionaries were the original faction and they were also the most leftist. But they weren't really traditionally leftist since they still believed in class collaboration, traditional values and nationalism. Their brand of "socialism" was inspired by guys like Sorel and in practice probably would have looked like a traditional welfare state. This section of the party would later get BTFO during the night of the long knives and go on to become known as Strasserists.
The aristocrats usually joined the NSDAP from other conservative parties when the Nazis overtook them in popularity. They basically wanted a restoration of the German monarchy, or at least something that emulated it.
Finally were the bourgeois faction, who joined way later. Hitler needed the support of industrialists in order to build his war machine, so he sold out the Strasserists during the Night of the Long Knives to quell most of the anti-capitalist ideas from the part. These guys ultimately won out, which resulted in Hitler privatizing much of Germany's industry.
>The aristocrats usually joined the NSDAP from other conservative parties when the Nazis overtook them in popularity. They basically wanted a restoration of the German monarchy, or at least something that emulated it.
that's bullshit, Hitler made it explicitly clear he was against the Kaiser coming back and it was probably one of the few things the NSDAP were consistent about.
Which is why I said "something that emulated it." The Nazis hated liberals and liked tradition and martial culture which was good enough for a lot of aristocrats.
He still sold a lot of the nationally owned enterprises to private holders, granted they were all pretty much sockpuppets.
This.
>Is the movement ideologically Nationalist or Internationalist? From this you can deduce your answer.
So the French Revolutionaries were far-right? The neoliberal dictators of Latin America were far-left? This doesn't make any sense.
You're trying to rationalize something that isn't entirely rational in the first place.
HA. No.
>Left or Right?
>existing