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Katawa Shoujo General #3372

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emisocute

Suriko

Lilly is my angel

Reminder
>Never pull a blind person, or change direction or elevation unexpectedly
>always hold out your hand and allow them to find it
>Never walk with your hands in your pockets while leading
>if a noise spooked you it frightened them, try to explain what it was
>if you go shopping with a blind person, prepare to explain everything and read a lot of labels. Do not sound annoyed.
>they can't see, be careful around them when they have a knife, or just in general. Many eyes have been poked
>I feel like it can't be stated enough that you have to explain everything. Maybe a paper fell and it made a noise, to you it mightve just been a paper falling, to them it could be anything. Noises can be terrifying
>the other senses are superbly important, especially hearing. Do not restrict the ears, headphones are a no go, unless in a comfortable setting or when using voice assist on the iPhone.
>the sense of smell is amazing, I've been sniffed out in crowded rooms
>iPhone has some of the best disability assistive software around, except the recent .0.3 update was a downgrade [totally anecdotal. Poll of 3 people]
>canes reach up around chin or nose height. Also they tend to be "comfort objects" and can cause much distress if the individual does not know where it is or they are holding it at all times. Do not mess with them, do not move them, or hide them.

>tfw no qt deaf gf

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for Rin

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I've been gone for a while, what is this pasta?

I'm posting it every thread
I'm trying to spread awareness, as well as answer questions, relating to blind people and being with a blind person

Trying to make it a little more real than just what is perceived generally

This image makes me rather sad. She'll never be able to play it any better tomorrow.

Why, what is her disability?

Spinocerebellar ataxia
Eventually her muscles/cerebellum will deteriorate.

Spinocerebellar ataxia. Essentially, she'll lose all control of her body.

Probably somewhere between mid-twenties to earlier thirties.

Interesting.
What would the conflict in a potential Saki route be? Initially I thought she would push Hisao away because she doesn't want him to get close to her only to lose her, but isn't that essentially Emi's route?

So she is destined to be a vegetable?

Do you personally know any blind people?

Aren't we all?

Married one
And her sisters are also blind

More or less
Eventually she will be bound to a wheelchair, and eventually she will lose control of her bodily functions
Truly a tragic fate

Since most peg her catchphrase to be, “Every day is a gift, every hour is golden, every minute is a diamond. Life is wonderful, you know!" (due to a fan route, considering she was an April Fool's route to begin with), you'd probably be dealing with someone who just doesn't care about short-term harm to the body/mind. She's probably accepted her own soon-ish death, and decided to throw caution to wayside to enjoy the now. Who could blame her?
No Mr. Bond, she is destined to die. Soon-ish.

>who just doesn't care about short-term harm
>decided to throw caution to wayside to enjoy the now
So she will take you around the world without a rubber?

I guess so, if you want to think like that. Probably wouldn't be the best role model. But hey, if that's the shit you're into, then yes, she'd probably wouldn't care. Would care if there was a baby, considering that she wouldn't be around long enough to enjoy their talents, but ultimately would become detached, depressed, and might even kill herself before the baby was born. Hey, no single parent life, amirite?

Well, that turned dark.

"Spinocerebellar ataxia" is a phrase I hope to never hear in real life concerning someone I know.

Sounds kinda like the worst-girl from YMK.

>user forgets how to post images not once but twice

I changed "word' to "phrase", then decided to add image. Other guy just forgot the image.

>tfw playing the game the first time
>nothing in the four routes I played really gave me any sad feels
>get to rin's route
>get to the part where she hugs you on the rooftop
>notice that I'm tearing up by the end of it
I don't even know what it was about that scene but it hit me really hard.

One for Mish!

Are you through with the route? I played Rin's route and the hardest part for me was after the art teacher shouts at her/berates her, and she tells you that she has no idea what's wrong with her

fpbp

>isn't that essentially Emi's route?
not exactly... Emi is unreasonable about it (not saying she doesn't have her reasons, of course she does, but it's still not healthy). She had one person taken away from her, in her 19 years of existence, and thus she won't let anyone get close to her in the remaining 60-70 years because it could happen again? That's like imposing a life of misery on yourself because something bad would happen.

While Saki... Well she KNOWS it's gonna end, and soon. She wouldn't want someone to get close with her because she KNOWS it's not gonna last, and it's not about her losing someone (like Emi) it's about not wanting the someone to lose her if they ever got close.

Another big difference with Emi's route is that she'd be open with it. The big thing about Emi is that she won't say it (until the graveyard scene), she just tell Hisao (and presumably, her first bf) that she won't get close, without mentioning why. Which, from the perspective of a boyfriend (or a wanna-be-boyfriend) is perceived as "Well, she doesn't like me all that much, she just want some weird casual relationship, in between FWB and actual boyfriend?".

Saki's position would be perfect clear.
It would not play on a 'big reveal' like emi, it would play on acceptance.
Early on in the path Hisao (or her suitor, whoever that may be) would be in denial, kinda... First going from not really wanting to think or to talk about it, then going to "Who knows what medical science will achieve!".

Saki (obviously knowing more about her condition than 'random guy who tumbled in her life') KNOWS science is not there yet, and won,t be there yet before she's gone. So she won't fully be with someone who wants to live with her not because he wants to spend whatever she has left and make the best of it, just because he refuses to even accepts she doesn't have much. (cont next post)

So the path would end with us being understanding of not just her condition, but mostly her position... Admitting (as much to her, than to ourself) that life isn't a fairytale and yes, some people die young, and unless miracles happens, she's gonna be one of those. But that doesn't mean we can't make the best of it.

I know this is still a bit close to Emi, but KS is always about the nuance anyway, the fact that both girls would have similar outlook to life doesn't mean they're identical. One has that outlook because an accident happened ONCE. One would have that outlook becuase she knows she's dying soon.

If they wanted to make it real different, they could just... Have her die.
PRoblem is that she'd die in the good ending as well (KS doesn't do miracles like that, if you do things right docs will find a way somehow?), so they would have to make a good ending with her dying. There's not many ways around that... It would be acceptance.

So she can go at peace, and (while still being hard for hisao obviously) he'd know he made her last days better, not just for her sake, but because he enjoyed spending these days as her boyfriend, even when it got harder for her/them. She would tell Hisao something real sweet before dying, and wrap it up somehow.
This would be soulcrushing for a good ending, but not exactly unKS-like.
Bad ending would be Hisao getting in a fight with her about her attitude toward life and her defeatism and all, and when he goes back to apologize, may or not be after he really gets it... She dead.

These are the quality posts I like to see in /ksg/

that was fantastic, thank you user
>the spoilered text
fucking ouch

thanks!
But now that I think on it, the writing in the good ending would have to be perfect, or I fear it'd be Shizune's good ending 2.0.

Even if it's done well, it could just end up like that anyway. Meaning, an ending that Hisao accepts as "I'm ok with this" but the player still feel like it's shit for the sole reason that he doesn't get to stay with the girl... And no writing can change that if she's dead. And while you can write Hisao being fine with how it went, I'm not sure you can write anything that will make the player feel that way.

There is another option... Which would be to have her die in the bad ending and live (albeit temporary) in the good one.
But as I said in my last post there are no miracles like that in KS, so to have her die in the bad ending means... that she has to kill herself. Either over her fight with Hisao,
or over the pain, but even just that would be too 'miraculous' (that she doesn't get it as bad in her good ending), so it would have to be about Hisao. But I'm not sure if it'd be too cliche or "trying too hard" for shock value,
forcing sad feels, etc...

Either way the writing would have to be spot on. KS always deals with reasonably serious themes, but this would be really heavy stuff. If the writing isn't on par with the theme it would either feel forced or just bad.

I don't think she needs to necessarily kill herself. I'm sure people sometimes can die if they worry too much or due to utter depression given a fragile state like Saki has.
Bad ending: Hisao goes to hospital and finds out that she died
Good ending: Hisao goes to hospital and meets her alive, some emotional scene, draw the curtains.
This way you don't really see it, but it implies that in good ending Saki had some good times with Hisao before she died.

I played KS in December 2016. Is this what /ksg/ was like 4-5 years ago? I'm impressed

My thoughts are:
Bad Ending: Breakup (Stop trying to save me Hisao. You can't... no one can) or Suicide (I'm going to die soon anyway, why not now?!)
Good ending: Hisao accepts his own mortality as well as her's. I imagine Hisao would project his own fear of potentially dying any second onto Saki's inevitable death.

>ywn be a part of old-timey /ksg/
it hurts

what was the first general like

wouldn't know, wasn't there back then. Or rather I was, on&off, but only in for the lewds

I had a few hundred pictures saved from KS before I even played the game. I wasn't into VN (still not into them now that I think of it, just into KS - tried 3-4 more before giving up on the genre pretty much) but I thought the characters looked great and all so one day I gave it a shot.

don't let yourself be fooled by rare, actual discussion. 95% of /ksg/ is just waifu wars/shit flinging. Guess it wasn't as bad back then, with more fresh stuff to discuss. Guess it wouldn't be as bad now, if again there was something new to discuss. Well that Saki stuff was an example I guess. Wish there was more.

newfag here, played ks two years ago and back then generals were a tad more populated and went way faster. I remember seeing this kind of images a lot.
also, this

I think first generals of ksg were cool and totally good.
I wasn't there, but I was here for DDLC generals. First twelve of them were very nice and comfy, then large amount of people flooded in, making their shitty memes and slowly killing whatever joy I had derived from the general and subsequently, the game
it's probably for the best that we are this way now

Just finished KS, any chance there's some discord to join?

discords are shit
if you wish to discuss KS, stay here

more like
Good ending: Suicide Pact

>ywn kiss shizune in her favorite spot

Please do tell us about your wife. Got any cute stories? Is she cute?

>ywn make Shizune blush in embarrassment by talking dirty to her in the middle of class through sign language

"Alright guys, let's cap these threads off at 100."

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fuck off

About to start the game. I'm wagering I won't feel anything, though I know little aside from the chicks are crippled.

Have fun, see you in 6 hours.

Pfft. Yeah, and I'll tell you it was dull and boring lel. Seriously they ain't even real. See ya in 10 hours

>I'm wagering I won't feel anything
if you don't, you're probably not human and should just KYS yourself tbqh.

just reading these 2 lines and your name, I'm wagering that you'll stop after 10 minutes without any girl barring Iwanako, or at most after like an hour without fucking (or even dating) any girl.

I'm just not emotional like a babby. But let's see

A good fap is all I want. VNs are pretty easy to get this. I'm just not sold on the whole "I cwied" thing. The h scenes better be worth my night.

ksg mansion when

10 bucks says this guy has read KS before and he's just meming

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the h scenes (barring one or two maybe) are probably the worst parts of the game. they're not exactly that hot, and they're often cringeworthy.

Most people don't care because apparently porn is a thing so you don't have to read 6 hours of story everything you want to fap, and they're in for other reasons.

If you're in it for the h scenes only you're gonna be disappointed. Then again, lots of people picked up the game thinking it was some cripple fucking hentai/sim dating and ended up liking it for the other reasons.

obviously
guess we should just die if that's what has become of us

after that 'Sometime I just pretend I'm new to get some discussion going' user from a couple weeks ago, I kinda feel like that about every poster who pretends to be new.

same
everyone knows ksg is actually one person

on one hand, this but on the other hand, I'm sure DDLC brought us new people.

tho most of them probably have shit taste and will never be /ksg/ material

yeah, they may have played it but I doubt that's go and stay here.
for some reason they think ksg is bad

they are right

ksg IS bad

Are you me?

yes and we are both Kenji

suzu!

You put everyone to sleep. Bad Suzu!
just kidding I still love you zuzu

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Now this seems unreasonably lewd.
I don't think girls are supposed to do that with girls.

rinny bump

>unreasonably lewd.
Are you serious?

>I don't think girls are supposed to do that with girls.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I-I'm just trying to be a good christian is all.

>unreasonably lewd.
No such thing

Nth for a happy Hana!

s-sorry

>guess we should just die if that's what has become of us
You first.

>ksg IS bad
'Bad' as in 'good'?

Don't cryyyyy
A good night sleep will make this all better

sleep makes everything better

>tfw I see this picture I always think it looks like she's pulling the sheets so you can come in and cuddle with her
>makes me feel really good for a few seconds then really bad for much longer because it will never happen

I love Rin but why did Hisao have to make her route so unnecessarily painful?

a man can dream

>ywn cuddle with Snoozu in a warm bed while it rains outside

You don't know that!

if only.

Very interesting. Thank you for your insight.
If I ever write about Saki I'll be sure to keep that in mind.

i'm so /comfy/ i think i'm going to fall asleep.

good night /ksg/.

Night man, hope no one kills you in your sleep.

I hope you do write about it!
I almost felt like writing something about it while writing these wall of texts heh. But I don't know the character that much (not sure if there's much to know anyway) and after the halloween thing I'm a bit burned out on writing.

Would definitely like to read something on her tho!

Good night Suzuposter!