Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

>drop zombie wall
>some guy walks into it
>this happens multiple times
Huh.

I've honestly had some of my best luck on weekends. Quality of matches does seem a bit more volatile, though.

Stukov though.

Basically on the weekend you have to play heroes like falstad and lili who can save people from being out of position. You need noob carry strats.

Dragonshire good. Garden Bad. Volskya still new but getting old

Do I need to get you b& again waifufag

cringe

NO means NO

>Implying
I left because I wanted to

its the picks that kill me really. all selfish shit that gets countered.

I just play samuro on week ends

What are the penalties for dodging in lobbies?

>Having a good winstreak
>My winrate even went up 0,01%
>Suddenly 7 of my last 10 matches I get paired with people who quit with 2min of gameplay
>And the other 2 I had lv under 100 in my team feeding ( just 1 normal game )
>Bots can't do absolutely nothing, so its literally 4x5
>My winrate is garbage again

Come the fuck on, is this a feature or what?

600 points and 2-4 leaver matches

>ranked players are just fucking morons

FTFY~

>placements
Zero, zilch, nadda. You'll have to play a leaver game (quick match or brawl) after your first, which is free.

>already placed
-600 (three losses) of points and the above leaver game thing.

At least they don't play "dude gimme a shit comp lmao" mode and complain about getting a random comp.

youtu.be/w00YiSGnf2Y

it's up

I don't understand why people do that. You play Quick play because you want to quickly play a game, not because you want an organized team. Play draft for that.

>Varian and Artanis every game
Interesting.

No point/mmr penalty for dodging in placements.
600 points otherwise.

First dodge'll be free, then it's one leaver game, two, three, etc. I don't know if it ever resets.

>Varian and Artanis every game

They are fun and effective. Can't really beat that.

There is a milestone difference, between a shit comp, and a cancer, unfunctional comp that gets matched a pretty decent comp. Like when you get something like a solo heal Khara, a Dehaka that goes for adapt vs a team with Uther and Lucio, Stitches and a Rag followed by a Guldan

Who is the best carry of the game?

Admittedly, what the fuck is up with that guy?

Lili

>carry
Not really a thing in this game
The best DPS heroes are Malthael, Tracer, Valla, Greymane, Sonya, and Zul'jin in no particular order.

>Mfw lose all day during week playing Alex
>Play Alex now, and having a winning streak

Weekend players are shit right desu ??

It changes week to week. It's more rock paper scissors of what they pick. Everybody has a weakness. Nothing too op right now.

we already have uther

Nazeebo
Greymane
Valla
Sonya
Zuljin
No particular order

Ye, really limits the Hero pool down here

speaking of Zul'Jin, I may have found my new hl carry after I idiotically dragged myself down to gold

>two AA range increases that can be completed before lvl 10
>spin to win axes revolving twice during team fights rack up insane damage
>Guillotine has insane range and damage on what is still a pretty low cooldown
>>your AA is still dangerous even if you go full spell build
>>Have a button to automatically make Guillotine hit like a truck, or instead swap the talent to ignore all roots and slow
>>Net is awesome now and not at lvl20

I'm worried they're gonna nerf him again and do more than increase Guillotine's cooldown by 10s...

Butcher can be considered a carry, but he's so easily countered he has to be a last pick. When he's not countered, he's a rampaging demon who isolates and demolishes the enemy team one by one. And when he's countered he kinda wanders about wondering what to do before exploding because he never has an opening.

DAILY REMINDER THAT 27.07.2017 WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS A DARK DAY IN ORCISH HISTORY.

youtube.com/watch?v=SVYmPIJt2BI

Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.

Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.

>what Blizzard devs did
Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017
Fast forward summer 2017
Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints

They'll probably reduce W damage a tad because of the double spin, and maybe increase mana costs a tad.

>Butcher can be considered a carry, but he's so easily countered he has to be a last pick.
Not best then is he. user asked for best not "what if my enemy is completely retarded lol".

is it just me or is he getting worse every time

Yeah but he's all draft dependent
as opposed to stuff like Sonya and Valla

do NOT bully carbot

STAND IN THE FUCKING CIRCLE YOU RETARDED PIECES OF SHIT.

Also remember that Mommy fixes for her W are coming next patch and probably DragonQueen Buffs!

>tfw seeing the enemy pick alex
Thanks for the free stacks

>be sylvanas
>enemy just walks away and survives
every time...

pls stand in the circle for best dragon

>Also remember that Mommy fixes for her W are coming next patch and probably DragonQueen Buffs!
are you sure? I bet alex is super op at higher levels of play

Hanzo fucking when?

Lune sprays when?

2 more weeks

They are thinking about adding a flat heal on her Q in her dragon form, also the possibility to cast her W at max range and simply walk through it instead of having to stand for half a second in to get healed.

PTR on monday

Thanks for the detailed feedback and glad you're liking her overall!
One thing I want to address is the fact that you can't currently max-range W and walk over it when retreating without having to stop. This is something we intended to be possible, but we accidentally broke the timing at some point before release. I believe we're looking to address this in an upcoming patch, which should help quite a bit.
I do hear a lot of feedback asking for the delay to be reduced, but something I don't think people realize is that making it shorter will also make it harder for your team to respond and get into the circle before it goes off. That's tough to appreciate right now while everyone's still learning, but there's a future a week or two from now where players have a pretty good handle on the timing and are playing around Abundance much more efficiently.
The biggest mistake I see players make right now is that they see Abundance go down and just stand in it, making them easy targets. The thing is there's no benefit to being in Abundance at any time other than the moment it goes off, so the ideal scenario is you dip in just before it activates, which makes you a lot harder for enemies to hit and is less disruptive to whatever else you're doing. We put a ton of effort into making the activation timing very clear for exactly this reason.
Timing aside, we'll definitely be keeping a close eye on both Alexstrasza's overall performance as well as how Abundance & related talents are doing. There's still a lot of room for skill growth and I think we want to be careful not to overreact, but we're not opposed to making the ability easier to use if needed."

"Originally this was done to be thematically consistent, and it never really proved to be a problem in our playtests. However I do think your feedback is reasonable, and if we get to a point where we want to buff her Dragon form, I think we'd be open to trying a flat heal amount on Q."

>2 supports, 2 tanks and 1 dps
>Greymane says he'll do damage
>Rehgar makes it a point to race him in damage and never helps him out
>Calls Greymane out for "only doing 1k more damage than me"
The shit you gotta put up with in Gold.

If anybody is curious as to what a Silver game looks like.

whew the quality, wish I was better at making these

Looking forward to it.

Stick to your shit waifu, like Tyrande, Alex or something like that

Butcher doesn't eat the meat he collects it to make more Butcher demons

I thought Stitches was the only good one but honestly if he had saved his fucking hook for Helping Hands he could've saved both Raynor and Rag, at least for a little while.

What does he eat then?

Oh, I know. It's just what came to mind when I had to save it.

Think he saved a few people with it earlier but already closed the replay and it takes forever to skip around inside of it.

Club sandwiches.

Someone on reddit made a good post about her with her weaknesses. It's too long to copy here, so here's link.

reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/7dmczm/tlnet_math_of_the_storm_alexstrasza/dpz1l3e/

I've been spamming her nonstop too, out of 61 games, I only have a 45.9% winrate as her, in HL. I'm hoping they do "overreact" with buffs, because she's my favourite healer rn. Decent wave clear, and damage if you can constantly land Es. But there's hardly a reason to pick her, she's fun though, and since it's HL, people pick whatever they want.

>youtube.com/watch?v=vweGElxpnnY

I mean you can always look at this for example and see why Alex can be broken wne used properly.

The problem with her are basically 2, retards on your team have no idea what she does and the other one is that the player itself has no idea how to use her.

is it bad if i have more fun going monstossity full locust build autistc split push abathur in silver league (11-3 so far) than playing "real" heroes like KT, leioric, malf etc...?

>tfw fell for the alex meme and missed to waste my gems on Demonic Auriel
Fuck you niggers

>Think he saved a few people with it earlier
Doesn't really matter, this is a game where repeating the same mistakes even in a brief period throws the game, also makes no sense to hook Butch to his dying team that he just saw get blown up to the dude in the first place. The stun and damage are practically non-existent at such a short distance. Compare that to being able to hook Raynor or Rag 15 meters to safe and it's not even a question of how much he fucked up. Probably the worst player in that webm besides Rehgar.

Ye, I'm not sure what Rehgar was thinking.

Whatever works.

What do you guys think about these demographics?

6 Undead
6 Nephalem
2 Dwarf
3 Angel
2 Zerg
1 Zerg/Human Hybrid
4 Protoss
1 Goblin
3 Demon
1 Demon/Night Elf Hybrid
2 Night Elf
1 Tauren
2 Pandaren
21 Human
5 Orc
1 Murloc
1 Faerie Dragon
2 Blood Elf
1 Ogre
1 Orc/Ogre Hybrid
1 Primal Zerg
1 Dryad
1 Worgen
2 Dragon
1 Elemental
1 Troll
1 Infested/Undead Hybrid
1 Cyborg

And Probius which is a construct and doesn't count

insight or iron fist?

iron fist
insight is a noob trap

and people hate on me when I don't want to play something other than assassin....

>team flames and afks because meme slug wouldn't hide in base

Is there a more misunderstood hero

holy shit lol

Yea her siege is pretty good too, she's like rehgar but better. A slight buff and she could be too op easily.

Stop playing ranked.

that's quick match

>MemeIntyre

Can I get a TL;DW

I can see the retards part, I just wish people wouldn't ban her, so people can learn to play with and against her. She's really good in the right hands, but she's just horrible to play with if you're behind. She's a win more hero.

>she's like rehgar but better
"No"

I think Rehgar can clear waves faster, she's on par with him though with the siege. Had one game, where no one soak bottom lane on Tomb, so I just sat their majority of the game. Didn't participate in majority of fights, just sat there, while team roamed top and mid.

She's very good on BoE, since E refunds, just nonstop spam on the immortal all day, and have near full mana for team fighting whenever it happens. Think I only B'd once, and tapped a couple times.

Basically her kit is overpowered in both Q and E builds if you know what to do and of course when you use your brain, you can climb a lot with her but of course is not a perfect hero and she has weakness like her W and sometimes the dragonqueen trait doesn't work too much, that's why you have this response from the devs so they know she's not working as intended right now and she will be fixed and probably buffed.

In the right hands she can solo most heroes or even act as a backline killer wiping out the enemy healers or going full dive with your DPS or tanks if you want it.

Relatively new player here, curious about a few things. How do I learn the current "meta"? Where do I start to learn about drafting and good comps and shit?

I like the idea of having one of each of the playable wow races as a character sooo draenei hero when? i guess. and as much as i like etc and Zul'jin I'd like more legit reps of those races like Cairne and Vol'jin

I bet you don't even try to learn to play something else

>Bait your team as a tank
>Always go for dmg as supp
>Hurr durr look at me guise, I must be an assassin natural talent xDD

If you don't have a KDA of at very fucking least, 5 with your main hero, you are a shitter. Thats a better metric, also screenshot this again when you have like 100 matches with each role

too bad she heavily relies on her teammates not being shit, as she only offers healing and has no disables besides the slow on her 2nd E
I feel like she's only powerful in a team where she can freely heal from the backline or supported by a 2nd healer that also does other things like tyrande or rehgar

Short answer is you just have to watch other people do it and explain why

There's a ton of heroes and counterplay isn't always very obvious. Other than that you should just look at tier lists for high level play and learn why what heroes are in what tier. We don't have spreadsheets and shit like other games telling you whats good and how to play. Every hero is pretty much good at something and has weaknesses that you basically have to just figure out.

I've recently started watching Grubby's videos. Anyone else you'd recommend?

>Grubby
never gonna make it

That's why the only opinions or suggestions that matters are from Masters, GM or Professional players.

They can use the different heroes at is full potential while you can take a look at platinum, gold, or even Diamond where 50% or 70% of the people has no idea what the fuck is going on, which is really sad desu.

chu8 is good
mewnfare is not
nubkeks can be decent but has platinum tendencies
Then you can check out pro player streams on Twitch and see how they play, but they usually don't explain anything

What specialist should I use to carry myself out of bronze?

So basically a Morales ?

DAILY REMINDER THAT 27.07.2017 WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS A DARK DAY IN ORCISH HISTORY.

youtube.com/watch?v=SVYmPIJt2BI

Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.

Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.

>what Blizzard devs did
Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017
Fast forward summer 2017
Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints
you are not me

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>pick tank
>ass and supps pick shit talents and do fuck all
>pick aggro supp
>everyone plays supper passive
>play sustain supp
>everyone plays supper aggro
>play solo camp char
>team does easy camps as 4
just kill me, my sanity is fading away

How did you reached that retarded conclusion?

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