/tekgen/ - Tekken General

Previous thread: = NEWS =
>Geese Howard DLC trailer
youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA
>Patch 1.06
avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2017/9/5/tekken-7-version-106-update-fixes-frame-rate-drops-caused-by.html
>Patch 1.07
avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2017/9/20/tekken-7-version-107-update-includes-balance-changes-new-cha.html
>Patch 1.08
avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2017/9/28/tekken-7-version-108-update-changes-player-info-in-ranked-ag.html
>Noctis Reveal Trailer
youtube.com/watch?v=LmWbiMwxmOU

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/
>Frame data for every character
rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>/tekgen/ T7 Character Information Compilation (wip)
docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
shoryuken.com/2017/02/17/this-is-the-year-you-will-learn-how-to-perform-tekkens-korean-backdash/
>Button Buffering
youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Low parrying
youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
>Combo video playlist for each character
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=_d38_Pc6qvc
twitch
labzerogames.com/iheartteyah/MilliaBlocker_v0.3.swf
i.imgur.com/cqg7aWp.jpg
youtube.com/watch?v=r2IPgPijxlA
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Team /Gigass/ unite!

I wish they made it to top 8.

Lili!

At least they took down fuckng Qudans

That was great, elite korean players including the TWT champion get sweeped by a team of pure Gigas.

how the FUCK do i get good with leo?

how good?

>he can't do well with leo
Jesus, maybe paul is your character.

Is Gigas "bad" from the get go or does it only become apparent in high level play?

Propably highlevel thing. He has gimmicks so he can dominate at low level.

just bought the game and I like it a lot more than 2d fighters already, I can see myself sinking a ton of time into tekken already

I decided to just grind out mishimas since I liked their pressure from watching some tournaments. I can electric only like a fifth of the time (lmao) after trainingboaring for a couple hours.

The question I have is if anyone else has an ls-32 stick, the tips I've heard seem to apply more to people using a jlf or whatever. Does anyone else here have a seimitsu stick and play mishimas? Is doing an electric any different on a stick with a shorter throw/tighter spring?

How the fuck do I suppose to beat Paul when I'm playing chracters that have no range against his Demoman/Deathfist mixup?

Leo is very well-rounded, man. Play him/her/it whatever you like.

You can block the low sweep of the demoman on reaction. Idk about deathfist mixup though

for paul's deathfist, sidestep left

>You can block the low sweep of the demoman on reaction

>15f
>block on reaction
You must make a choice

No his struggles are apparent even at a low level, just not as glaring as they are at high level. But you can play literally anyone up till yellow and it will be more about your fundamentals rather than your character.

You can play anyone early on, even Gigas. BUT you will have to work a little harder.

how do hitboxes work in this game

I know there is collision detection but moves still have custom hitboxes right? where to look them up?

tfw the bad guy's moves beat mine every time

One stick doesn't have an advantage over another when it comes to doing electrics. It's all preference.

t. stuck on blue

>where to look them up
That's rediculous. Tekken is a 3D fighting game with over two thousand moves, you're not going to be able to find data on the hit spheres/cubes

All you need to know about move properties in regards to hitboxes are 'high, mid, lowmid, low, floorlow' and 'crushes highs/mids/allmids/alllows'.

AoP on Ling for example puts her low to the ground, allowing her to duck all mids except those with a low hitbox. You see that move and know 'okay, i need to use certain moves to counter this'. Likewise, if you read the other guy using a high like a jab you can go 'ok, i will use a move thay crushes high like a snake edge'

Can you block hellsweeps on reaction as well?

They're hitspheres. I'm not sure if there's a publicly available tool for viewing them. You'll probably just have to test shit out in training mode.

orange rank

so it uses those same spheres for all the moves and it just depends which person hits the other first?

are those huge ones for shoulder attacks or what?

not for DJ though there's just something weird about him

team green unite! pad players unite!

how are you supposed to punish anything with delay netcode + input delay

lmao it's minus but they're already pressing a counterhit move before you realize what the move was

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Sorry can't help you. I only got Leo to jugglernaut.

You know, that to react i15 move you have 10-11 frame time to react to the animation. And thats if animation is regonizable at frame 1 and you are playing v-synch off.

Ganryu is so much fun, just tried him in Tag 2 earlier
I honestly think he'd be my main if he were in 7
They really dropped the ball with 7's roster, huh?

If you play 4 or 5 bars, delay is about same as offline. Thats becouse part of offline delays is online buffer that is on even offline, propably to make game play same online and offline.

Why does every Ling and Hwo lag?

The way I see it, Harada is trying to get new players into Tekken. Katarina and Claudio are very noob friendly, Akuma/Geese reveal was a massive publicity boost, and now Noctis will bring in alot of FF fans who might become a Tekken fan. I do hope Harada bring back atleast two more legacy characters but I don't expect him to bring back all.

After hundreds of hours spent playing Mishimas I think I'm gonna take a long break from them, I'm sick of losing to people I know I'm actually better than

Which non Mishima would you recommend if you like Kazuya? I'm considering Feng or Leo, at least until Geese is out

How about Jin?

>That's rediculous. Tekken is a 3D fighting game with over two thousand moves, you're not going to be able to find data on the hit spheres/cubes
already did fag
youtube.com/watch?v=_d38_Pc6qvc

so the attacks are custom cylinders during the active frames and the spheres are where you can get hit. Now I have to wonder if some moves are retarded with a cylinder sticking way out past the sphere to beat my move

if tekkucks weren't lazy they'd catalog all this stuff like every other fighting game does desu

Tekken already had those kinds of characters in guys like Paul and Law, it shouldn't warrant replacing characters with cool and unique fighting styles that up to this point felt essential with some trash tier character with no style like Katarina

Chanel playing some sets on twitch
.tv/shudy_yoshel

>like every other game does
Yeah, except those games have 15 moves per character tops instead of 100 average

I used to main him in 6 which is what got me into Mishimas in the first place, but I really didn't like playing him in this for some reason

>15 moves per character tops
lmao no

>spams safe strings and crushing moves that can't be whiff punished full screen

C C I H T

Tekken players are already the least lazy out of all fighting game players. There's so much more depth to the game, literally.

Anyone want to fight for a bit on PC?
I haven't booted up the game in a couple weeks and don't want to be complete trash the next time I play my friends if I can help it.
Even if they'll still bully the hell out of me regardless because of my main.

Nice game kekkens...

That's her secret move

stay free, friend

Remember to dodge Jokongs

Looks modded.

this is the perfect way to never get good

when is the appropriate time to enter Feng's shifting clouds/deceptive step stance? I feel like I eat shit every time I try using shifting clouds.

I'm a miguel believer.

anyone have the imgur link of all the closeup shots of the girls?

labzerogames.com/iheartteyah/MilliaBlocker_v0.3.swf

It seems Kazumi is simply not doing it for me. All she has is poke while seemingly everyone else can launch you for infinite x10 damage and whatnot.

To who should I switch too?

Bryan

>how do hitboxes work in this game
They're simply superior to all other peripherals, nothing else to it.

Leo is a girl

If you can't win with Kazumi then you just don't know how to play the game. You only have to use like 5 different moves to win.

If you wanna launch all day, go try Asuka.

I'm looking forward to your inverse "All they have is launchers while seemingly everyone else can poke you to death" post.

Please teach me sempai.

Using df+1 forces me to give away my pressure because my opponent can just jab me out of it.
>Just side step
yeah sure...
db+4 can get me launch punished against certain characters
WS 4,4 is like 15 dmg fucking wow even if you get a tailspin its nothing.
Her sweep is trash.
Her running 2 is piss easy to side step.

Honestly most of my damage with her comes from my hitting f,f 2 and if my opponent doesn't break it by some miracle, her command grab against wall.
I watched a lot of pros playing her and I don't do anything different than them, obvioulsy with the difference that they are way better players and react a lot better to their opponents, they might aswell use any other charachter for bigger rewards.

Out of over 1000 players there were just 10 Heihachi players. Sup with that? [/spoiler]There were like 20 bear players.[/spoiler]

>complaining about characters in tekken

It's big nigga season.

It seems you're looking for some kind of tactic that will net you wins without having to use your head.
That's not how this game works.

Hes literally dead and mastering him is a waste of time at this point.

An all Hei team just doesn't carry the same meme potential as an all Gigass or all Bear team

Its seems you are making assumptions that are not correct.

All I am saying is that other characters get way bigger rewards for less and more safe work.

It's simple: Heihachi simply isn't cool, because he's an old man. Nobody likes playing old man. That's why nobody wants Wang back as well.

The only popular FG players who constantly pick old men are JDCR and Xian.

There's a reason why Heihachi was much more popular in TTT2. Not only was he S-tier in that game, he was also young, so playing him felt cool.

>T8 still 5-6 years away
>Heihachi will probably have a literal clone of himself in story or another bastard child that's likely female to make his style more popular
>Harada just asspulls and Heihachi survived again anyway

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Kazumi is a rushdown character, meaning when you play her you don't even need to know the matchup

>everybody else has my same tastes
You have problems

This is just wrong. Knowing matchups is important when playing any character. Let's say you're playing Kazumi. You do df1 into sidestep. The direction you want step depends on the matchup.

t. different user

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By the time i'm warmed up i'm already fucking sick of the game and my wrist hurts

Josie was a mistake

Why are there no yellows online?
Been waiting for 15 min.

>Using df+1 forces me to give away my pressure because my opponent can just jab me out of it.

>do the follow up
>side step hopkick
>backdash hopkick
>dick jab
>iWS4, 4

There was like one Josie, but then game crashed in midlle of match. Now there is nobody to play at ranked.

The higher ranked you are the fewer players around.
This is the downside to ranked and winquitters.

how should I customize my gigas so everyone knows I masturbate to interracial porn?

Yellow is not high, and week ago there were much more players at yellow.

Make him as white as possible to show that, even at their biggest and strongest, white men are still little sissies compared to blacks

The amount of anger Yoshimitsu gives me is not healthy

No character should have 400 unblockables and dumb fucking flying and healing shit fuck this character

>shit as fuck
>find a beginner Paul online
>I'm stronger but he's way better at grapples and timing, knows how to play defensively
>gives me a hard time and it's tied multiple times
>he thanks me for the games after I leave and adds me
It's been a long time since I met someone so civil

Throw out a 12-13f mid, or block. There is a brief neutral frame before DM if they never stop moving it's DF.


His Hellsweep is literally not different from any of the other Mashima's in terms of farmes

i.imgur.com/cqg7aWp.jpg

Who's 10 strings are even worth knowing. I can only think of those who's 10strings start d/f+1 or NC jab strings. Maybe Yoshi cause the last 3 hit can't be blocked?

youtube.com/watch?v=r2IPgPijxlA
mainmeme shoots back

King's and Feng's

whens geese

Season pass worth getting? Noctis and geese look great but fuck me it's like $25

If he was actually trying to get new players into the game, he'd include a tutorial, more offline content, and probably simplify the game in terms of mechanics. But it's pretty clear that T7 is pandering hard core to the legacy players, with little or no effort at all to make the game grow.

Don't spend any money on it.