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>Alexstrasza, the Life-Binder
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>yfw they have a Nova

discord where

>UD
>first pick samuro
>he lanes the entire game
>uses bladestorm for waveclear
>9 deaths

when

two years after fire bat and banshee

You know there's going to be at least one retard on your team with 10 deaths to her.
On a side note, Malfurion has been an amazing pick this week.

Also, fuck this forced 50 bullshit. I didn't truly believe in it until I had a streak of 10 wins going, and then I keep getting games with comeplete bullshit comps, leavers, or retards.
I watched a Tracer on my team stand still to autoattack like she was cosplaying as Raynor, a Xul that thought for some reason he was a tank and could initiate 3v1, and teams where I could say "I think Val's top", ping retreat, and watch them try to dive the not even wounded enemy hero.
Holy shit, I have not been so frustrated in two hours with this game before.

Its more like 50% of Hots Players are retards.

>only 50%

I wonder if they'll ever show official rank distributions again.

No fucking way.

>playing with locked camera
This must be fake.

Aha, there it is. They showed the stats for Preseason and Rank 1 but I can't find any others.

>Rank 1
Season 1, rather.

~25% of players play with locked camera?

Can anyone give me build/talent advice on Ms. Sanguinar?

>Wonder billies listed under "beasts" not "horses"

Anyone care to explain?

I wouldn't be surprised but would love if they shared their internal stuff on things like this.

>% of people who exclusively quickcast or on-release
>most popular ability to quickcast or on-release

Wonder if we'll ever get that API thing.

Horse skeleton, probably. Is Cho'gall able to carry any of the billie mounts?

i would but it's pointless to worry about her until next week. just play her however you want and have fun for now, the stealth rework will change her playstyle and build order almost completely. keep an eye out for her though because she has potential to become a very strong anticarry.

>back to the elemental mounts
I got my hopes up with the tron horses.

Wait until the rework goes through.

i need to fill out my warrior roster for ranked/unranked play but don't know who to get
currently only have muradin
pls advise

what if I just finished a quest and leveling 2 heroes to 5 that gave me enough to buy her and I want to unlock and main and devote myself to her as much as possible before the rework so I can honestly say I gave her the best shot I could and didn't onl play her after the rework and did it all along because I love her

ETC
Diablo
Johanna
Varian
Arthas
Anub'arak

Honorable mention to Sonya because she's technically a Warrior

>worrying that others will only think you picked her up after the rework
C'mon. Go just unlock her and have fun

muradin is p good

garrosh is very strong ***when the team drafts and plays around him***. diablo is a decent all-rounder.

Anub'arak vs spells/hypercarry
Arthas for fighting melee heavy comps
Diablo for aggressive diving teams
ETC for does a bit of everything/team fights/anti ranged AA/global
Garrosh for getting banned every single game
Johanna for anti-AA/waveclear
Varian for anti-dive
Uther for healing

>someone doesn't like a pick early in draft
>so they throw even harder pick 4-5
why the FUCK DO PEOPLE DO THIS

Because I admire your waifufagging,

1 - Subtlety is good and my general go-to, but I've also seen other Valeeras do well with Vigor and Combat Readiness.

4 - I almost always take Initiative here. Since you're almost always gonna be opening with cheap shot this is a good way to maximize your burst potential without having to sacrifice CC.

7 - I really like mutilate this tier, the range you lose on Q is negligible but you burst a lot harder. A lot of people take assassinate but I find it too unreliable, plus i don't like opening with Ambush. I think every talent on this tier is situationally viable, though.

10 - Cloak of Shadows. Don't fall for the smoke bomb meme.

13 - Another situational tier. I usually find myself going Blind here, it's especially good if the enemy team has a high priority autoattacker. Death from Above is good for chasing and if you took Assassinate tier 7.

16 - Expose Armor is the most useful one here because -Armor is a really strong mechanic.

20 - Nightslayer, always.

The important thing to keep in mind while playing Valeera is that yes, you're an assassin, but you're more of a roaming ganker than a frontline DPS like Greymane or Cassia. You generally always want to open up with Cheap Shot as it gives you and your teammates the most reliable followup damage, Garrotte looks good on paper but most heroes will simply walk away from you, and Ambush is fairly weak without specific talents.

Also, don't walk around in stealth all the time. Your D gives you 1 second of true invisibility when you use it, where even your shimmer won't show up. Flank the enemy, and when you're just barely out of their vision range, activate your stealth and sneak up to them without them even getting a chance to realize you're there.

API will definitely be this year
they have dropped hard fucking hints about it over the past few months when talking about the new MM system and the HGC website layout.

They have one of the isms.

What's the difference between a fort and a keep? I mean mechanically.

I play with locked and I'm hovering at Diamond 1 promos into Masters

>worrying what others will think
Its more what I think, if I don't give 100% dedication before and after the rework, what kind of person would I be?

Thank you user

>first game with shitzlowe was such a stomp I didn't even get to level 2
>still have to play this shithead to level 5
help

>Get told I don't know how to play Alex
>Every fight is my fault because misplaced Ws
>Ws are mainly for me, while Q is for everyone else but ok
>I would say, people avoided my Ws
>"Bait" Ws as well
>Q build, nobody ends up touching me majority of the time
>Double Malfs healing
>Still my fault we're losing

Enemy team was top camp, and some reason we decided to fight in the corridor, where Stitches Biled the whole thing. My fault we lost that as well, Greymane late to the fight, ends up going 1v5 cause all of team but me and him were dead, and I already retreated.

1. Don't be tempted by the turret build noob trap, go for lazor build or, if you feel confident in hitting them, bomb build. Turrets are there for area control and zoning, not flat damage.

2. Collect scrap for CD reduction and mana refunds, discard unneeded turrets for scrap.

3. If you're playing QM go robo goblin, unless you get to have coherent teamfights, then you can consider gravo-bomb. If you do, don't forget to throw an E before you gravo for a combo.

4. Get to objectives early, a good setup is what sets the difference between a thrashlowe and a gazgod.

5. When you lose, don't forget that no matter how hard you tried, he's still considered a shit hero.

>buy azmodan since he's a pretty cheap-cost specialist and seems fun
>play him twice now
>top hero damage, siege damage, and exp soak both times
>lose horribly both times
I don't understand, what am I supposed to do with him? He seems useless in a team fight, and and my push doesn't really amount to anything in 2 games now

>blizzard 50/50 algorithm can predict people will be leavers

He's better at teamfighting compared to say Sylvanus. Since all she has is her heroics. But generally the best use for Azmodan is to look at your team flailing like children in the bottom lane, raise an eyebrow, and push down the enemy nexus in the top one. Just keep switching lanes to where the enemy isn't whilst the rest of your team of moronic children attempt to win a teamfight for the ninth time even though it is patently impossible for them to do so with their 3 assassin and Lucio build that QM has thrown together with you in abject comptempt of all.

Oh, and don't forget to take Mercs as soon as you're able. But that's standard advice for everyone.

If you get ganked just laser the guy and walk back to your towers.

Yeah, but I tend to find the AI a much better player than the one who it's replacing.

>. Since all she has is her heroics
He says while shadow daggers spreads to the entire team, has good DOT and can lower armour at level 16
>Since all she has is her heroics
And Azmo only has his dunk.

>play 2 games as a starcraft hero 5 out of the last 7 days

Seriously fuck you.

Well this is either going to be a slaughter or a curb stomp

Hope you're hungry nigga. Gonna be a lot of meat layin around.

>QM
Also >not playing glorious Highlord

2 days left to go from gold 5 to Plat 5, can I do it without killing myself ?

I was hungry for meat, sadly the rest of the team was not and our Varian was Russian. You all know what they say about Russian Varians

i play with a locked camera but i unlock it for like half the match, does that still count?

I just want to play Alex, she's the most fun support. Fuck brain dead Lucio/Stukov. Rehgar is also a kind of fun support. Everyone else is just shit, or straight up not fun.

I hate this game sometimes.

If you play for hours each day, yeah. Gold should be easy to get out of if you're not a shitter. Best times I find to queue are after midnight. ~2am EST-8am. In the afternoon people tend to be shit.

Was their vikings at least a good vikings and soaking all match?

Yep

Is Sylvanas hard to learn or play?
I'm looking at the roster and in the specializt category the only character that even slightly interests me is her.

Sylvanas only has 1 good build which makes her niche.

I'll leave it up to you to decide whether or not niche roles are hard to learn.

yesterday night I won 5 matches in a row, today all my matches are lost on draft

>tfw when on the rising side of forced 50

And his Ult. And his beam. And his decent HP pool. And his confusing the teamfight and getting in the way of hooks and like with his minions.

I like Sylvanus, she's probably my second favourite pushing hero* in the game before Azmodan, and even then I feel she's better in many ways in being a dedicated sieger, and essentially the best Merc camp capturer in the game, but I just have more fun with Azmo.
Plus Azmo can contribute more if the game objective doesn't really suit a pusher.

*I can't say specialist, becuase Murky and Gazlowe are in that catagory on those guys are fun

>There are still people who thinks that all warriors are tanks

>waste talent tiers for the "if im full hp my q is slightly better" build
>lose
>make a blogpost about it on a siberian ice fishing board
Try playing better.

I like to play Thrall

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>now metzen is dead
finally freed from corruption and now enslaved to the chosen one

Which krissumassu skin you want to bad you are willing to kill for it irl?
For me it's the fairy sylv, i fapped to that skin so many times and now i will finally have it!

>call butcher a fun hero
>immediate butthurt

>emoteicons
are you 12?

>tfw you really like playing Leoric but you always get the worst possible case of team unga bunga whatever you play him
Even in death there is suffering

>pick leoric in QM
>enemy team is entirely glass cannons

>not using emoticons
are you gay?

>Thinking Q build is shit

Both builds are viable. Heck, even this weekend, we saw 3 games as Alex. 2 Q build, 1 E build. Lucio/Alex(Q) was a win, Tass/Alex(Q) another win, and Abathur/Alex(E) was a loss. We can even look at EU/NA pro supports build preferences. TSJun, and Bakery, both suggest Q build, while TigerJK says E build. MemIntyre, and Khroen, who don't play supports both say E build.

I wouldn't play Alex 260 games if I was bad at her. Majority of my losses are from teams being shitters. There may be like a handful of earlier games, where I accidentally threw, but as her, all my games I'm playing her safe as possible, Q or E build.

Her Q is like ~800 at level 18, on a 4 second cooldown, while Rehgars Q is ~600 on a 9 second cooldown. With a 1 second downtime on Armour at 16 too if talented into it. If the flower is unattainable, there's 2 free Qs without dropping under 75%, while the 3rd will. But by the time you're ready for the 3rd, W should be back up to get you above 75%, with a flower. There's honestly no reason why you should lose health as Alex, unless for Qs to save team, or if you're getting dived on, but with safe placement that shouldn't be happening at all.

Other than, not adding enough damage in a fight, because constantly missing Es if I'm not speccing E build, there's really nothing for me to "Try and play better." It's just teams being complete shitters. Also, the amount of times getting "called out," for not going "healing" build is getting too high.

>lose
>-204 points
>win
>+198 points
>effectively adding at least a game per rank

>>uses bladestorm for waveclear

dismiss them, first to get blamed is the support always

She's hot and can disable buildings. A good pusher since she actually has an escape unlike Amzodan and Zagara.
Use her on two lane maps where the enemy team can rotate fast enough to catch an overextended Azmodan but not a banshee queen

How the fuck do you play Alarak?
Literally all of his skills are underwhelming as shit and they're so fucking short.
I feel like I wasted my gems from buying him and he was on fucking sale.

Motherfucking pantheon fucking when?

I just want to feel completly OP and just crush my enemies.

>backline who gets dived constantly complains that our bruisers aren't "tanking" properly

I can see a big seat of the pantheon map where you fight to earn the favor of a given titan, and eonar comes in and gives your team massive health regen or something

Is Alexstrasza good for a beginner?

yes

no

stop

y do u ask this every thread

I don't know

Can you repeat the question?

>playings hots when dota 2 is out there
I do not get it
Enjoy losing because 1 (one) of your teammates is a trash player

isn't this problem even worse in dota2?

enjoy spending 45-1h minutes being farmed and insulted in Cyrillic because the match was decided in the first 10 minutes

Placed diamond 5 before the season ended!
Where's everyone else at?

forgot my proof

is random pick broken?
>do it like ten times
>eight of those I get Raynor

Playing with locked is the best way, you can still move it manually too if you want. I flip it back and forth a lot too depending on who I'm using.

>you: 6 wins
>placed in diamond
>me: 8 wins
>placed in bronze 1
How?

You are not worthy of the Highlord

High MMR/ELO, whatever.

placed diamond 5 then deranked the rest of the season

No
Kepps spawn catapults when they die that's about it

>1000+ Games in one season and still plat

From Silver 2 to Diamond 5 my highest. All it is, is a grind at this point.

>placed silver 2
>climbing to Gold1 promotion
>lost my promotion match then deranked to silver 5 demotion
>now at gold 4 promotion

>tfw Tracer in qm

>get to bronze 4 promotion
>lose next 3 games
ow

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