Tfw you could be a communist, but you hate its aesthetics

Soviet realism was indeed aesthetic. But here's the thing, every single commi and leftist I know denounces this art as "fascistic" and whatever, and prefer post-modern shit like Abramovic, only with a commie instead of post-modern "message".

They're obviously not patriotic communists but rather subversive globalists attempting a one world Soviet.

I can't stand music from the USSR. You can hear the Atheistic misery in anything produced by the Red Army Choir.

LARPing """""Christian"""" pls go

Nigger please.

youtube.com/watch?v=3rM96_RS1Os

Epic response, but I'm not religious.

You just proved his point

Post an example of >good >communist >music.

Inb4 RATM.

youtube.com/watch?v=_sBxI5mb_eU
Its socialist, but close enough

Not a bad tune, but Wagner is the best opera composer of all time. Nothing personnel kid.

Why is it that extremist political and religious groups tend to have the best aesthetics?
Why do moderate centre ground groups have shitty aesthetics??

Centrist and moderate groups roll off of more appealing to "common sensibility" rather than emotion.

If you try to please everyone, you please no one.

>So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

youtube.com/watch?v=L6MuBslefto

Niggers and gentlemen, Reichsmusikkammer president Richard Strauss:

youtube.com/watch?v=jbDVk8fwor0

Always remember, when you're listening to 2001: a Space Odisssey soundtrack, you're listening to Nazi music.

Commies positively BTFO.

Some more Nazi music.

youtube.com/watch?v=GXFSK0ogeg4

Can commies possibly be more BTFO? No, they can't.

youtube.com/watch?v=zudFEvTj9H0
youtube.com/watch?v=0JL_upFmUvs
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Civic nationalist music is superior

Nothing wrong with Strauss, he was a victim of the circumstances, not a Nazi.

>Strauss never joined the Nazi party and studiously avoided Nazi forms of greeting. For reasons of expediency, however, he was initially drawn into cooperating with the early Nazi regime in the hope that Hitler—an ardent Wagnerian and music lover who had admired Strauss's work since viewing Salome in 1907—would promote German art and culture. Strauss's need to protect his Jewish daughter-in-law and Jewish grandchildren also motivated his behavior,[12] in addition to his determination to preserve and conduct the music of banned composers such as Mahler and Debussy.

In 1933, Strauss wrote in his private notebook:
>I consider the Streicher-Goebbels Jew-baiting as a disgrace to German honour, as evidence of incompetence—the basest weapon of untalented, lazy mediocrity against a higher intelligence and greater talent.[13]

Meanwhile, far from being an admirer of Strauss's work, Joseph Goebbels maintained expedient cordiality with Strauss only for a period. Goebbels wrote in his diary:
>Unfortunately we still need him, but one day we shall have our own music and then we shall have no further need of this decadent neurotic

figgity fugg

And we're supposed to take for granted that every soviet composer is a staunch Stalinist?

Strauss and Goebbels didn't like each other. Big deal. Fact is Strauss was an official composer of the regime.

Enjoy this superior Nazi music, commie faggots.

youtube.com/watch?v=14VllN5h9xw

>Olympische Hymne (Olympic Hymn) was the anthem of the 1936 Summer Olympics held in Berlin, Germany. Music by Richard Strauss. Text by Robert Lubahn.
>Music by Richard Strauss
>Richard Strauss.

youtube.com/watch?v=7AlEvy0fJto

>But the Jew has stood outside the pale of any such community, stood solitarily with his Jehova in a splintered, soilless stock, to which all self-sprung evolution must stay denied, just as even the peculiar (Hebraic) language of that stock has been preserved for him merely as a thing defunct.

>Thus the Jew, according to Wagner, is capable not of real music but only of the “travesty of a divine service of song,” the “gurgle, yodel, and cackle” of the synagogue.

youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk

>the involuntary repellence possessed for us by the nature and personality of the Jews, so as to vindicate that instinctive dislike which we plainly recognize as stronger and more overpowering than our conscious zeal to rid ourselves thereof.

>Although the peculiarities of the Jewish mode of speaking and singing come out the most glaringly in the commoner class of Jew, who has remained faithful to his father's stock, and though the cultured son of Jewry takes untold pains to strip them off, nevertheless they shew an impertinent obstinacy in cleaving to him.

>And we're supposed to take for granted that every soviet composer is a staunch Stalinist?
You don't get it do you? Strauss only cooperated with Nazis, only because he was friend of the Jews and wanted to influence Reichs policy against Hitler's autism. NONE of his music was nazi music. If Strauss was alive he'll spank your underage arse for this acusation.

Meanwhile song of the partisans is clearly communist music.

>Fact is Strauss was an official composer of the regime.
Not for long, he was kicked out due to his anti-nazi leanings.

By the time of olympics Strauss was kicked out of the office.

>An example of the latter was the composer Richard Strauss, exonerated in his denazification trial as innocent of any ties to the Nazi State, yet condemned by Thomas Mann after the war as a ‘Hitlerian composer’. Proud of his lack of involvement in politics
>Despite these occasional conflicts, Strauss was generally on good terms with the Nazi Party (probably the biggest source of conflict with the Nazis was his ego

holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/reichskulturkammer/strauss-richard/

>Despite being cleared by a German denazification board in June 1948 his music still carried a stigma. Like Wagner’s, it was banned in Israel and repressed, rejected, even reviled elsewhere, due to unease about the official role the composer had played in Germany under the Nazis.

About Strauss' forced resignation:
>It was, indeed, a letter from Strauss to Zweig that led to Strauss’ forced resignation from the Reichsmusikkammer
>In one of his more shameful episodes, Strauss backpedalled furiously, writing to Hitler to assure him that his missive to Zweig had “not represent[ed] my view of the world nor my true conviction”. Hitler never replied.

HE REGRET IT! HE ALSO NEVER DENOUNCED NAZISM. COMMIES BTFO.

bbc.com/culture/story/20140610-richard-strauss-a-reluctant-nazi

Commies would like to be able to compose this kind of music:

youtube.com/watch?v=DDZoPWgp_Bw

Regreted*

You are American, aren't you? You don't know how were collaborants treated?

>“I made music under the Kaiser,” he supposedly told his family. “I’ll survive under this lot, as well.”
If something, he was a spineless cuck, not a nazi.

Soviet music possesses nothing of the profoundity and grandeur of German music. Their souless choirs praising materialist production and big brother are dead and empty.

youtube.com/watch?v=AQOfIENN2tk

He was the Reichsmusikkammer president. Enough said.

And he was against Nazi policy, nuff said.

Yes because he denounced Nazism so much after the Reich fell right? Uh oh.

>Strauss attempted to ignore Nazi bans on performances of works by Debussy, Mahler, and Mendelssohn. He also continued to work on a comic opera, Die schweigsame Frau, with his Jewish friend and librettist Stefan Zweig. When the opera was premiered in Dresden in 1935, Strauss insisted that Zweig's name appear on the theatrical billing, much to the ire of the Nazi regime. Hitler and Goebbels avoided attending the opera, and it was halted after three performances and subsequently banned by the Third Reich.
>Do you believe I am ever, in any of my actions, guided by the thought that I am 'German'? Do you suppose Mozart was consciously 'Aryan' when he composed? I recognise only two types of people: those who have talent and those who have none
>In November of 1933, the minister Goebbels nominated me president of the Reichsmusikkammer without obtaining my prior agreement. I was not consulted. I accepted this honorary office because I hoped that I would be able to do some good and prevent worse misfortunes, if from now onwards German musical life were going to be, as it was said, "reorganized" by amateurs and ignorant place-seekers.
>In 1942, Strauss moved with his family back to Vienna, where Alice and her children could be protected by Baldur von Schirach, the Gauleiter of Vienna. However, Strauss was unable to protect his Jewish relatives completely; in early 1944, while Strauss was away, Alice and his son Franz were abducted by the Gestapo and imprisoned for two nights. Strauss's personal intervention at this point saved them, and he was able to take them back to Garmisch, where the two remained under house arrest until the end of the war.

He was just a collaborant looking for safety of his beloved ones, who were found unworthy of breathing by the Nazi regime. Not a Nazi.

As a fascist, i agree, commie music is actually very good, i like it because it expresses authoritarianism and order
youtube.com/watch?v=4dHqKZpi2jw

Absolutely

Fascists have better state art but absolute shit bottom-up creations

There's only one noteworthy German film from the 12-year Nazi period, and it's a propaganda flick.

Next thing you know people are gonna start claiming Max Planck as a Nazi because he didn't personally try to shoot hitler or something
His son did though, hitler was a dick

Because the nazis banned the creative freedom of the weimar period, you couldn't even listen to certain music by Beethoven because of some obscure censure reasoning
It was like letting some autistic from Veeky Forums decide what constituted """German""" appropriate music

>being a filthy secularist modernist
yuck
anything composed after 1720 should get N O W

youtube.com/watch?v=cVLEg5YEaAA
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Socialist Realism is better than anything the Nazis ever created. Prokofiev and Eisenstein >>>>>Strauss and Riefenstahl

>not beating the whites with the red wedge

That's post-modern liberalism masquerading as the left.

Universities push this specifically to undermine Marxism and its critique of political economy.

Fuck those people, you had shit tier friends.

Art is gay as fuck though so you deserve it.

>pushing marxism to undermine marxism

okay

reddit refugees are so easy to spot