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What is your favorite map theme?
Mine is towers of doom.

Battlefield of eternity.

I really hate that map just because people are retarded and spend the whole game defending instead of damaging the immortal.

If you don't have superior race, you need to defend.

shit game

i already have the superior blue elf valla

should i reroll

I prefer to split up unless its really needed for the comp. If you spend all the time defending the enemy will eventually take it since they be close enough to keep reviving. Usually you put a decent damage dealer on the immortal while you have the tank and others keep the enemy off your immortal.

>rerolling an orange
No, you retard

Shot post

dva is best cute voice

Dead game

this is embarrassing


why does the blizzjew have to ruin everything

200 sec queue too

i just want to get my daily quests done so i can skip this game for 3 more days

>play HL
>sometimes win
>sometimes lose
>end up in a division where most are at about my skill level

Nice game hotstards LMAO

why are you looking for other players to do quest AI games

no u

At this point I don't even know who's shitposting or not anymore

ikr it's so fucking stupid, i can't even blame the team

Dude what's in there lmao

thoughts on hanzo?

>>MOIRA

Why even include numbers

bets

Hard but good
OP on a few maps, sucks dick into poke resistant teams

Depends if Murky and TLV are not feeders against Butcher and Tracer.

No chance Blue wins.

>QM

murky and vikings fed a lot, vikings always grouped. we were actually winning early on until like 10 when they started getting free meat from lamb. vikings and murky were impatient too and didnt want to just push a lane to the core

also this was draft with first pick vikes and murky into butcher

Usually the good strategy is to def as 4 and poke while your strong AA'er eats the immortal.

which carries stand the test of time by sheer design alone that one should consider learning?

do we have a fap roll chart for the females? if not who should i fap to guys?

>enemy medivh takes polybomb
i love my free win

Valla, Greymane, Li Ming, and Falstad have been good since pretty much ever.

Illidan comps are still a thing, you just need proper enablers on your team.

Even though he's new I'd also place Malthael in there, since what he does is pretty much always going to be useful unless his numbers get absolutely butchered.

Wasn't saying "everyone needs to defend" was just saying that you do need to defend.

Surprisingly, Raynor. A lot of people meme that he's bad... and you do need to position well with him, but he's long ranged, safe, has a self peel (with optional stun) and he can adequately deal with certain heroes like Ming or Valla, as well as more obnoxious ones like Tracer.

He isn't "the best" but what he is, is remarkably consistent - if you're good. Hyperion is great for pushing, Raiders are good for focusing down carries / supports (they're about a 75% dps increase for 22 seconds if they don't die).

Very high skill floor. Possibly a little undertuned. His highs are very high, his lows are very low. Absurd pve on "bosses".

Does it feel like Ragnaros can help bad teams more to anyone else?
Just provide safe firing support in Molten Core or send a lava wave where the team is failing to cover, Rag holds his own in most 1v1s (except against hypermobile jackasses like Tracer, Genji, or Li Ming), and has incredible waveclear even without Lava Wave.
I can just play the macro game and it feels like I carry a lot of weight.

>JackFox
>tfw salty enemy Leoric player on Sky Temple who lost his shit 8 minutes into a HL game and afked under one of our forts was a hotsg attention whore the whole time

Not surprised desu.

When you say defend that usually implies everyone. You have to specifically state someone stay on the immortal or the retard damage will not touch it.

Can someone give me a good Azmo build? I got Azmodunk and I love Space Jam, so I wanna git gud at him. I've been using the one Icyveins build but I heard that site sucks. I don't know how good I'll be at the other level one globe quest where you have to last hit, however.

>take lava wave
>successfully stall the match by another 20 minutes with 1 click every 100 seconds
yeah sure is hard

Azmo actually has surprising talent diversity.

Laser build can be used to harass teams without (many) stuns, or be used to aggressively push structures. Taste for blood (requires help stacking - D.Va, jo or kael are great at assisting) or sieging wrath actually do a lot of damage.

Demonic invasion can either be dropped right on structures (with level 20 upgrade you can kill core in like 22 seconds with it) or you can drop them far back in a lane to get some powerful passive push if their team doesnt respond.

heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#kbUS

This is the typical build, usually people opt into globe at 7, but bound minion is *extremely* powerful currently, so I'd actually recommend it.

>1
Sieging Wrath, maybe Taste for Blood if you have people to stack with and have practiced it

>4
Army of Hell, lets you spam those W's

>7
Infernal Globe or Bound minion. Depends on the map, comp and flow of the game although it does eventually become harder to pull off Bound Minion.

>10
Similar to 7 in that it just kind of depends. They're both good at different things but Pool is more versatile in that you're able to waveclear, siege and team fight with it whereas Invasion'll just slam down one lane while you push another.

>13
Hellforged Armor unless you really, really need to throw Q on CD and don't have a Malfurion

>16
Battleborn. Just throw unpooled Q's at minion waves to keep them shoving, the range from sieging helps here. Also decent chip/poke on structures.

>20
Usually Forced Retirement for the immense lane pressure, Fifth Circle if you're Q build and feel like your team would benefit from the attack/movement speed slows, Bolt of the Storm if they have something like a Leoric that has been entombing you and... Perishing Flame for more oomph when you drop it on a keep/core.

Ye, as he mentions. If an objective is spawning top you can drop your invasion bot/mid, throw a Q at the wave then D a melee minion with Bound and they'll shove to keep or core. Just a bit of an underwhelming team fight presence if you go invasion and bound so keep comp/flow of the game in mind.

WHERE THERE'S SMOKE

There's a friendly family barbecue!

This was more or less what I was taking besides using Battleborn instead of Demonic Smite, actually. Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed analysis, friend. Do you have any strategies for Azmo? I've noticed that I try to splitpush but I prioritize any teamfighting
(except on Haunted Mines if they're fighting in the mines and I have the entire surface to myself) that breaks out and my siege damage ends up a little lower than I would like.

Bound Minion is actually ridiculous with the new changes

In a nutshell you just want to be pressing multiple lanes/places simultaneously. Top shrine spawning on Infernal? Rotate from bot to mid, drop your D bot, spam W and autos mid and throw your Q top.

Often you'll want to group just long enough to win/lose but always have your D somewhere, ideally where it'll go uncontested. Bot lane when the second objective spawns on Foundry for instance.

Ye.

>Just a bit of an underwhelming team fight presence if you go invasion and bound
In other words, it doesn't ever work past plat because people are not retarded enough to never rotate and waveclear, and you're essentially a 4v5 in teamfights because non-black-pooled Qs do jack shit damage let alone if you throw them with a 3s delay

Bound Minion can get value sure, especially post minion changes, but when it does it means the other team is so shit you would have won with full Q build anyway

I'd say closer to around Diamond II.

Sitting middle of diamond and I can tell you FULL PUSHMODAN still can show results, but not on every map. It shines like a star on Battlefield of Eternity and Infernal Shrines, but isn't really worth thinking about on Dragon Shire, for example.

>teammates criticize my performance in QM
>in QM
Why are people complaining about bad if they're actively queuing for QM.

>the amount of tilt in draft when picking Azmo on battlefield or braxis
I really do wish they'd revert the Sieging Wrath nerfs, though.

How did we die so hard
Like two weeks ago we were slammin

still the best girl after all these years, prove me wrong you can't

No in dev video. Christmas. New year soon.

They "announced" Firebat but didn't give us a fucking video on him so what are we gonna say? Wait a week.

>
being a long time terran broodwar player i will be buying FB day 1

It's holidays is all, we'll pick back up in like a week.

>10th image in your hots folder

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>having a hots folder
il just post the 10 pic in my memes folder

How do you play Hanzo to actually contribute to your team? I've had him in my games before but I've never noticed him do anything unless he throws out the dragon, which does 0 damage, or gets the finishing blow with his stun.

Q build
W pve dmg talent
clear mercs
wombo with ashe ult

I think he's pretty okay desu

Depends Q is the way to go unless you got an Aba on the enemy team. W talents should be for clearing waves. Make use of your wall jump to get them at different angles. As for the ult the Stun is usually better unless they are all forced in a spot. Just make sure you don't make it obvious.

I don't have a HotS folder. Here's the 10th pic of my generic clutter folder instead.

When does the event end? I need to know if i have enough time to save up shards

>hots folder
pfft

9th

it was enjoyable but they spent way too much time focusing on random shit, it really felt boring since NOTHING happened 90%. you could also feel the cheap outsourced chinese animation in basically every single episode

it's either this or some porn, i have a bunch of sub folders

Why is Li Ming such an unapologetic super slut?

bets?

>Playing Anub'Barak for the first time and having less health than the Rehgar and Valeera I'm supposed to be tanking for

Man, the fuck? I'm just throwing out stuns and then pressing W and running for my life because my health gets chewed through in seconds. Good cc for ganking I guess but I keep looking at the enemy Muradin's own cc and survivablity and sighing. Why does Mr. 5'6'' get to have it all but the giant scary bug the size of a house who looks practically indestructible is made of paper?

because anub was fucking busted when he had health and damage

red, theres no way blue can soak all the lanes with dehaka on the other team

You have an on demand shield, natural resistance to abilities, and mad cc and mobility. It requires some finesse but anub is very strong.

Literally one of the best escapes in the game in the form of Burrow Charge. Stop using it as an entry, it's an exit.

>Meme teamfight comp on "whoever can pay more coins wins" map
Red

First time I've seen W talents on Alex.

Blue getting obliterated but I suppose anything could happen.

>Alex goes W
>game takes an extra 10 minutes
ree

The W build isn't strictly speaking bad, it's a late game powerhouse (that 16 talent is preposterous on top of the others), but I would absolutely not take it against ETC as he can kick you right out of the heal field..

>friendly family barbecue!
You could have just said "THERE'S ME", since Firebat would never pass up the chance to attend something like that.

Ye, I just haven't seen it before.

Might've been able to end in like 8 minutes if I didn't use ult to wipe them just earlier. Again after getting two kills but you know how indecisive people can be with making calls when your lanes are rotting.

I don't have a hots folder.

i love this webm so much

>enemy fivestack doing sky temple boss
>they kill him
>our hammer uses Y to sprint to the taking circle and deploys there adamant that he will steal the boss even though literally the entire enemy is standing around him and we are all dead
i never seen someone explode so fast

guess you missed the x-month stretch where anub had *slightly* more hp and so dominating he eclipsed every other tank

his base kit is so good he HAS to have some sort of weakness to be balanced

oh and cocoon still wins games

What hope is there for QM is the most positive guy ever chimps out over the game mode too? Should it just be removed?

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eh might've been less shitty if he was 20 for the other ult

>stitches taking him to safety
yep

biggest issue with qm is that people don't treat it like brawl

God sc2 nova is ugly as sin

ded

Lul I'm fukked.

ree

>Hanzo misses point blank
Someone post the webm