Why are there """adults"" who haven't grown out of libertarianism?

Why are there """adults"" who haven't grown out of libertarianism?

I'm glad I did

Now I'm a True Constitutional Conservative™

I, reaching peak possible emotional, intellectual, and ideological maturity have also rejected [thing you don't like], and became [whatever OP is].

What's so hypocritical about being against child murder?

You didn't read the first part of the statement, did you ?

What's wrong with moderate libertarianism?

Yes?
Pretty sure most Libertarians still want the government to handle certain crimes where murder is included.

Does every ejaculation need a name ?

There are no real libertarians just those that want liberty for their specific niche

What's funny that "American Libertarianism" is really its own outlying breed of libertarian. Far more chauvinist, individualistic and 'right-wing'. If you actually read the philosophers and those who first pushed the ideas, libertarianism is almost all the rest of the world (an obscure but) lefty ideology.

Im 32 - and i prefer classical liberalism. Im 2 old to learn new way of thinking.

What is your argument against libertarianism ?? Is it based on keysian arguement?

>t. statist collectivist socialist

>support israel goy.

considering she supported Israel and cashed social security cheques that's really rich

Daily reminder that Ayn Rand was dismissive of the Libertarians, referring to them as plagiarizing right-wing hippies with no ideological backbone to speak of.

Why is American politics so different from the rest of the world? In your election you could choose between to neo-liberals and yet your left wing cries because one neo-liberal won over the other.

>muh neoliberals
Buzzword of the century

The problem is that American culture dictates that once someone becomes sufficiently wealthy and powerful, they'll turn on their fellow Americans and abuse them, their property, and the lands that they share together. That's why libertarianism is flawed, because there's nothing to hold back the people at the very top. If you think that the people on top are making a constant drive towards human progress you're an absolute sheep. They want to poison your river and enslave your child in their factory.

So was she an ancap

No, Ayn Rand expressly disavowed anarchism, describing it as rule by mafia kingpins. Throughout her career she never doubted the importance of a government, merely one that, to use a saying from Atlas Shrugged, "has a wall of separation between commerce and state".

Ayn Rand considered herself an Objectivist and nothing else. She was disdainful of any other label.

> Rich, powdered-wig political fops trick farmers into fighting The King for them.
>Unironically declare all men equal while owning humans and using the underclass as cannon fodder.


"We should look up to these guys!"

>while owning humans
>humans

Up to debate.

>ancap

for /pol/tards and just about no one else

You obviously must not know what that statement means. When referring to "all men are born equal" it means that they are born with having legs and arms and heads not that hey are on par with us proper people.

>homo sapiens I don't like aren't homo sapiens

> COME ON GUYS TAKE A JOKE
> IM FUNNY
> MY ARGUMENT IS VALID

Where is the line between libertarianism and just classical liberalism? Even libertarians want the state services to exist to some extent, but how much of it is still libertarian?

>"all men are equal, but some are more equal than others"

You just unironically animal-farm'd us.

I wasn't joking. If you ever lived in South Africa you'd have the same doubts.

Some of them were bretty good. But Jefferson needs to be cast down desperately.

The question isn't what qualifies as "equal", but what qualifies as "man".

post ancaps

I'm still a libertarian. Less government intervention friendo, that's all I want.

I never doubt the cruelty and stupidity of humans.

But I also never doubt the humanity of humans.

Humanity is a genetic fact, not a medal of honor you get to bestow arbitrarily to people you like.

Also I'm really not getting why/how you expected Sub-Saharan Africa to develop at the same rate as, say, Europe, which had a moderate climate, plentiful resources, and the ability to trade easily with North Africa/The Mediterranean, the middle east, and Asia.

Sub-saharan africa had none of these things. Polynesian cultures had none of these things. Isolation results in slow growth of culture/technology. It also disincentivizes a lot of the behaviors conducive to a well-connected civilization. This has less to do with a person's "worth" than it has to do with your civ rolling a 1.

What kind of government intervention?

Safety regulations? Environmental regulations? Tarrifs on foreign goods? Wage caps? Minimum wage? Safety net? Taxes? Public schooling? Police? Firefighters?

Libertarians always talk about less government but they really suck at the specifics.

>implying Ayn Rand had anything novel or interesting to say
honestly shows her own ignorance.

Well-adjusted people grow out of it

That's hilarious considering the exact same thing can be said about her.

Lolbertarianism is the entry point to the true redpill™

someone post the other ones

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democrat/socialist/leftistscum: libertarianism is terrible! why are they so stupid? limited government doesnt work

neocon/altright/neoreactionary: I couldn't agree with you more!

>alt-right originality at its finest

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What is reddit/leftypol

nice, thanks

All this is good except the thing next to the title that implies the maker of this comic actually considers it a fair representation of anyone. Why can't people just accept that caricature is an inherently unfair form of argument just take it as comedy.

So basically all this artist does is make straw men of things he doesn't like

>oh geez, why does everyone agrees my ideology is just plain retarded!?

>not being a classical liberal and civic nationalist

I love, just love, whenever marxists decry others for not being pro science.
Nevermind that marxist economics, radical environmentalism is complete garbage. Also nevermind how quickly they jumped on the psychoanalysis train and refused to come off it for decades.

It's literally because of autism.

if you find yourself agreeing with the far left or a neoeactionary you should probably take a step back and reconsider

Yeah, techno-commercialists don't go far enough.

Most rational, intelligent people are classical liberals. Try reading an economics book sometime.

>people who want to stick to our country's founding values and principles have autism

>sociology
>psychology
dropped

I want collectivists to leave

feminists like calling anyone who disagrees with them autists too.

Its like anyone who presents a systematic argument is suddenly autistic. Funny that

Isn't that what all political cartoonist do?
I agree this one is among the worse though.

>Jerry Falwell is closer to anarchism than Karl Marx
Literally wut?

If you aren't a libertarian, you are probably low IQ, ignorant, or a bootlicker.

>Wholecaust
Kek

Takes one to know one, I suppose

>it's a "libertarians pretend their ideology didn't fail worse than communism" episode

>Nolan charts
When will this stupid meme die?

well it hasn't since its just a more extreme version of classical liberalism which is probably the most successful system

collectivist statists btfo

Daily reminder that the only logically consistent conclusion to libertarian thought is neo-reaction.