What made America so religious in comparison to other western nations?

Nooo! Only white Christian heterosexual males can be intolerant! Stop shattering my pipe dreams!

Yeah, no.

They were basically Salafists. America was founded by the equivalent of hijab (bonnet) wearing no fun allowed Muslims.

Same thing is happening around Europe

Don't even get me started on Japan

Or all the ethnic conflicts in Africa and Asia

People are fundamentally intolerant, it cannot be helped, nor can it be expected otherwise.

Freedom of Religion bit in the Constitution and the type of precursor laws really permitted anyone to create their own little denomination or rogue one without getting condemned by a prevailing national one. Combine with the fact that many of those wacko churches that weren't tolerated in Western Europe moved to America to practice more freely and that many of them even deported their undesirables here (like with France giving the option to prisoners to move here and be free and get forcefully married to a prostitute they arrested off the street to take with you, or remain in prison; hence why New Orleans and Cajuns are so degenerate).

Along with this, they remain persistent today as they can pander to reactionaries for whatever media craze is going on, with no authoritative central organization restraining them in order to keep their moderate members or convert others.

Well, every religious weirdo was shipped off to America, so thats that. Also, The US is rural for a vast part, and this rural communities are a perfect safe space for religious people where the modern world doesn't has that much of an influence.
You can find the same kind of people in Europe, but likely they are living in some remote mountain valley and are insignificant because of their low numbers.
Next thing is numbers of denominations, Europe knows state churches (Lutheran, Evangelical Reformed Catholic) and they just don't keep their stuff together as the myriad of free churches in the US that preach fire and sulphur every day of the week.

puritans only founded New England.

There were multiple social movements throughout american history that spread a evangelical forms of Protestantism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Awakening

>escaping religious persecution
They weren't escaping religious persecution. That's the narrative schoolkids are told now because it sounds better, but the Puritans came to America because they were frustrated that England (and later the Netherlands) wasn't willing to let them establish an ultraconservative theocracy. They were never persecuted, people were generally tolerant of them, they were just angry that they couldn't make everyone else live like them, so they decided to make their own society.

The Purtians came to America because they wanted to establish a society that was as religiously intolerant as possible. Their attitude towards religious freedom was pretty much the same as many fundamentalist Christians in the US today, that freedom to them is the ability to dictate how everyone else lives.

>hijab (bonnet)
Whoa, really made me think a little bit there.

Fun is a sin

>willing to let them establish an ultraconservative theocracy
They tried that and banned dancing.

Puritans are not the only ones, you know? And not only English people migrated to the US. Mennonites and other Anabaptists where persecuted for real. So where French Protestants and many more.

I think this is not far from the truth. It's the same as Muslims that complain that they are "opressed" in Western nations when what they really want is to establish the rule of sharia law.

Europe had Ultraconservative Theocracies in place, the Republic of Zurich for example
>dancing forbidden
>colors forbidden
>City gates shut on Sundays
>Anabaptists get drowned in the river for heresy
and so on

the holy spirit

Yes, maybe, but the fact remains that they perceived themselves as persecuted.

>white man can't dance

youtube.com/watch?v=dR-F_FvfWa4

>ywn be american

youtube.com/watch?v=rOH37W0jPpA
youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ

>republic of Zurich
The fuck you talkin about

>be European
>never seen a TV Evangelist
>never seen a Charismatic Christian mess
>never seen a street preacher

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zürich#Early_Modern_history
I'm talking about a Swiss city state.

youtube.com/watch?v=cwBVcsWYJd8

>America
>Religious

Nope you aren't

really makes you think

and new England dominated

>have become some of the most intolerant people on the planet
LOL

Thanks be to God.

What time frame?
Also:
>Protestants
>religious

Apart from the founding aspects that others have already touched on America also turned more towards religion as the reds were against it. Not to mention televangalism and the war on drugs in the 1980s both pounded the ether with religion.

New England were the ones that spearheaded the revolution

Church and state were separated from the beginning.

Depends on your definition of tolerance, my lib. Tolerance requires not liking a party.

Ironically, I think that because the country was built on secularism, it became more religious. Countries in Europe have a long history of theocracy and absolute monarchism to draw from and learn from, and so therefore secularism became more desirable. No such history exists in the United States, so religious intervention in public affairs is a lot more enticing.

>Lee resolution pushed by Virginians
>Continental Army led by Virginian
>Declaration written by Virginian
>Constitution authored by Virginian
>Bill of Rights championed by Virginian
>four of the first five presidents were Virginians
>new england made america

I bet you thing Thanksgiving is about the Pilgrims in New England as well, how cute

>people buttmad about based ollie ironsides 'every mick on a stick' cromwell on my Veeky Forums

GET OUT REEEE

compared to most european christians they are

That's what I was taught, and I've never lived anywhere near the Northeast. Did they make up some special snowflake story down in Dixieland so people wouldn't get triggered every year?

Knee-jerk reaction to communism.

Had there been no devout Christians, America would have turned into a bunch of White/Black/Hispanic Nazi states.

God bless America. E pluribus unum.

Because a lot the shit we did, ie. manifest destiny, we justified as being divine in purpose. Just like the Catholic Church's Doctrine of Discovery was used to justify the colonization and imperialism of Europe.

If you think Americans are the most intolerant people you really need to travel.

Fellow Yuropeen here - you are lying in order to appear better than the Americlaps but basically you are full of shit.

We have these fuckers on tv aswel with most digital television having one or two dedicated channels and basic cable providing partial coverage.

There are several countries running around with majority/minority Christian fundamentalist parties

And there are door-too-door aswel as street preacher types all over European nations. The only difference is the flavour of Christianity that they preach.

For a self professed European you are very ignorant of the status of Christianity on the continent and we are hardly any better that the 'Claps...

My personal theory

America experienced extreme prosperity throughout the 20th century, had no reason to go against the status quo and thus stayed conservative.

Europe on the other hand experienced two of the most devastating wars in history, and the extreme economic decline caused by those wars. This caused them to turn to things like communism, fascism, socialism which all tried to destroy or co-opt the Church. The Church's wholehearted support of the wars also helped disillusion people with them.

it really depends on the country

also i'm an ausfag and the only practising 'christians' i've met irl are jws

Alexis de Tocqueville attributed the strength of religion in America, compared to its decline in Europe, to the separation of church and state in the US, which contrasted to Europe where you generally had a strong tie between temporal and religious authority. Thus the process of freedom and destruction of tyranny in Europe was opposed to religious zeal, whereas in America he claims the idea of liberty and Christianity where essentially one concept. …

“The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other”

Is it really though? Not even half of Americans go to church every week, whereas more than 50% of Poles and Maltese do.

What country are you from user? I have never seen televised preachers (Unless you count mass at special occasions i.e royal wedding, christmas etc.) in my country.

The dead of god in europe happened due too many devastating wars which made people question their worldview and the catholic church being overcome as an organised institution.
Islam and protestants work more decentralised, so they could hold on stronger.

>the most intolerant people on the planet?
Get a grip on reality

fellow european as well, gotta disagree with both anons. I've never seen televangelists and christianity is obviously less intrusive here than it is in America, people hardly go to church outside of holidays. There's a national religious channel and there's jehovas though, so it's not like I live in total seclusion of religion.

Though southern Europe is probably worse what religion is concerned and Scandinavia/former USSR are almost completely religion-free. Keep in mind that Europe is a diverse place dudes, not all of us have the same culture.

In some places which are not total atheist strongholds such as the baltics and eastern germany there are now protestant americans preying on the decaying social fabric.
Some countries have state subsidized catholic TV but I dont know of people who listen to that a lot and it doesnt get shown in your face.

I dont know about the orhtodox countries.
Also italy is very pious, but its more of a part of life and culture there making it much less obstrusive.
We got mormons and jehovas witness going around, all of american descendence.

No, really not. What country are you from? Because I seriously never saw such things here.

The social decay is there because you abandoned religion. Now your societies are being preyed upon by wackos like Muslims

There's certainly a strong streak of intolerance based in religion in America, but overall America is one of the most tolerant nations on the planet. Not from any particular sense of social justice in the national psyche, either, but rather because America has embodied the concept of corporate pragmatism for the past century.

>The social decay is there because you abandoned religion.
t. lonely Christfag

I met one though

youtube.com/watch?v=50oiJZAOWjE

felt bad taking the piss out of this led

>16th Century
>"Explorers" are literally all just pirates and goon.
>Everyone who goes to the New World dies in a month.
Things carry on like this for ~100 years.

>Proddy bullshit gets real.
>100 different types of madman Christianity pop up.
>Salafist jr. weirdos are despised in their home country and run away to America.
>After a while they get better at surviving in the New World.
>New World colonies become so profitable that other religious minorities from all over Europe move there.
>Immigrants and settlers are so diverse that religion becomes a hardcore identity marker.
>As people push north, more and more group carve out their own niche.

Here's a fun game, match each religion to a corresponding ethnicity and the social/racial/economic strife that brought them to America!

Yeah, Jefferson, Washington, and Madison are just southern fairytales to make them feel better

>tells story
>is asked where from Europe
>doesn't answer

Yeah, amerifat christfag posing as European again.

No, Thanksgiving is just an old Anglo tradition of thanking God for the years harvest. The pilgrim story was added on during the 20th century by New Englanders to feel special . If it was about the pilgrim then why would Canada even celebrate it?

>Wanting to preserve your culture by limiting (mostly illegal) immigration
>Intolerance
No.

Also, the same exact thing is happening in Europe (outside of Germany, that is) with far-right nationalist parties like UKIP and Front National.
In fact, Front National is far more radical than Trump, and they have a very serious chance of winning. You could even call them Fascist.
Is France a bastion of intolerance, Leftfriend?

>Is France a bastion of intolerance, Leftfriend?

Not the guy you replied to, but yes. The idea of Europe being SuperWoke is a 2000s era liberal fantasy.

american detected
the american religious devotion is pretty much unparalleled in the west
>not even half
you should see the average turnouts in most western european countries

Puritanical origins and belief in God.

>have become some of the most intolerant people on the planet?
What did she mean by this?

and subsequent great awakenings whilst europe secularised

I'm sorry your mom made you go to church.

It has a constitution based on the notion of "God-given" human rights. It's outdated nonsense, but it works.

the english colonists were puritans.
the founders were deists.

ebin communisms

God is with us.

What are "Christian" and why are they not part of Other

>so religious
You realize most latin america is like 40x more christian than you, right?

I think he was talking about 1st world countries, in that respect the US takes the cake for being overly religious.

Too many stupid people

If you're happy and you know it it's a sin!
If you're happy and you know it it's a sin!
If you're happy and you know it
and you really wanna show it
If you're happy and you know it it's a sin!

It's a survival mechanism, take it away and watch people die out. At least it's just shitty white people dying out and paying for their sins.

>Smartest country in the world until minorities overran it
Idk man I'm not sure that's quite right.

I'd say times of hardship increase religiosity, rather than succes and prosperity.

t. Falseflagging Americlap

I have literally seen two Jehova's at my door, never a street preacher, no television preachers, the Christian parties are among the lowest in my country. Fuck off.

Not a bad theory mate

Unrelated to the topic at hand, but I find it amazing just how effective, if unpredictable, these reactions are. I've been to a few different events where there's tons of people in an auditorium or stadium, someone will be talking about the word of the lord or some other mystical event, and some people will just behave completely bizarre.

I remember my gf who took me once burst into uncontrollable laughter for no reason, several other people in a few rows ahead broke down sobbing. The air of suspense and intensity in the place was palpable. I really wonder how much research has been put in to the psychological affects of such practice, just from an interesting standpoint.

> 614

No. NO. I live in Columbus, Ohio. There's way more secular people than religious, though there is a fair share of religious folk too.

>Trump is le ebil intolerant man

He is the most tolerant GOP president and candidate in decades. Even if he were a standard Republican, such "intolerance" as you deem it is nothing compared to the racial complexes felt amongst East Asians.

Christian Scientists?

>such "intolerance" as you deem it is nothing compared to the racial complexes felt amongst East Asians.
Are you talking about East-Asian-Americans or East-Asians in East Asia?

Just because GWB was stupid doesn't mean he was massively intolerant.

It's kinda what happens when you turn an entire sect of fundamentalist Christians into a settler class. The land they settle ends up being more fundamentalist.

Probably a fucking leaf