Why did fascism despise intellectuals?

Why did fascism despise intellectuals?

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Because Marxism is the opiate of the intellectual.

Authoritarian folks often are. Don't like being questioned or critiqued if it doesn't fit within their world view

Fascism had many famous intellectuals. Giovanni Gentile comes to mind.

Ever tried to argue with a fascist? Then you know why they hate intellectuals.

Since all actual fascist are dead and what remains are syncretics or "neo-fascist" i'd imagine op never argued with one.

>intellectuals
The meaning of which is? Are fascist thinkers not intellectuals? Have they not developed ideology they feel contributes to mankind? Or are only those you agree with "true intellectuals"?

because fascism is a true movement of the people, unlike Marxism, and the people want their people to subjugate and enslave other people

Intellectuals are queers and destroy culture

t. Mishima

>because fascism is a true movement of the people, unlike Marxism, and the people want their people to subjugate and enslave other people

Can't tell if this sarcastic or not but your in denial if you think we don't live in a dog eat dog world.

everyone despises intellectuals

Because most "intellectuals" in Germany were either Jews or Jewish sympathizers.

Because most intellectuals became shills for neoliberalism. People are tired of being told that they are stupid or bigoted for not wanting massive amounts of 3rd world immigration or for not wanting to go into massive debt, especially when the ones telling them this are taxpayer-funded university professors living in mostly-white communities. That's more of a recent phenomena and wasn't as big when the Nazis came to power but that general strain of thinking among "intellectuals" has always been there.

Because they are disconnected from the people and usually live a life of wealth and comfort. They represent a small circle and only have a very narrow world view, as well as using hard to understand language which in their opinion is only used to further disconnect from the average Joe.

They hate critical thinking since they are authoritarian.

>hating Malala

Because Fascism isn't independent ideology and it tries to act like one by killing those who disagree with them

Everyone in this thread is wrong, Fascism is the most intellectual adn artistical political movement ever made.

/pol/ are probably fascist and they are always open to argue with anyone

her claim to fame was being shot in the head.
She shared the nobel prize with an activist who has worked for decades against child workers because India and pakistan were playing cricket with artillery shells.

Because intellectuals are Polish.

>/pol/
>open to argue with anyone
maybe a few years ago, nowadays you just get called whatever buzzword is the current meme for having a conflicting view of things. The entire board is one big meme echo chamber where conflicting opinions are protected upon people hated by the board. Not saying that I always disagree with /pol/, but saying it's open for arguing is pretty delusional.

She's braver than you nigga.

Calling someone a cuck is not arguing with them.

>somebody called me a word on the interneeeeet

How about you ignore them and actually discuss with the rest.

>The entire board is one big meme echo chamber

This is how I know you don't go there.

Any ideology that demands unquestioning agreement is automatically anti-intellectual. That includes fascism but isn't limited to it.

so what?
Her greatest accomplishment was being shot in the head and then getting a cushy house in the UK.

Many Pakis have a mixed feelings about her although not for the reason you think

Not the guy you're responding to.
>How about you ignore them and actually discuss with the rest.
It's straight-up impossible. Here's how every discussion goes on there, and I mean every fucking discussion.

>Poster A makes an unfounded statement.
>Poster B makes an unfounded statement.
>Poster C challenges them with facts and sources.
>Poster A: Fuck off, CTR.

Or with:
>Poster A: (((facts and sources)))

Or:
>Poster A and B: [radio silence, thread dies]

That's assuming you're not from one of the countries which guarantee even the most meticulously-sourced 3 para post explaining a topic will get met with "SWEDEN YES" or "POO IN LOO PAJEET" or "A FUCKING LEAF" or "DO NOT RESPOND TO AUSTRALIAN POSTERS" or ...

>This is how I know you don't go there.
You are delusional. It's the biggest echo chamber on the site.

>argue with anyone
drowning your opponent in bullshit and memes isn't arguing

It was usually mutual, and reflected a difference of values. Intellectuals are at least notionally concerned with 'objective' truth and morality. Fascists are concerned with the unity, prosperity, and survival of the nation or people. Some 'intellectuals', mostly marxists, take it upon themselves to evangelize their views to the uncritical masses, and I think that's the biggest source of conflict.

>wahhh mommy why can't I down vote shit posts and make them go hidden like on reddit

It doesn't take bravery to get fucking shot

Your board is rightly considered a joke. Sorry to break it to you. I'm not crying about it, I just don't bother going there anymore, it's a waste of time.

Veeky Forums is Veeky Forums, but on most boards, 10-30% of posts will be shitposts, and the rest will be substantive. /pol/ is the exception. Real discussion there is impossible.

Because intellectual tend to value Liberty and individualism

Why did Mao Zedong hate teachers? The answer is the same. They pose the same threat to their power.

Why did radicals in the XIXth century despise priests?

Same answer.

90% of 20th century intellectuals were communists.

Because asking questions is sort of antithetical to dogma-based unswerving centralization of power.

> Posting mishima when there is a much better Japanese hero

>Why did fascism despise intellectuals?
Because at the end of the day "Intellectuals" are people who never actually contribute to society in a meaningful way.

Sure you can use superfluous language to tell me why the world has no meaning... BUT HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT ACTUALLY HELP ME. How does that help society become better? People who seek knowledge for the sake of knowledge instead with a goal to better oneself or society are at best
>pseudo aristocrats
or at worst
>Autistic edge lords who enjoy making others feel bad about themselves

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifesto_of_the_Fascist_Intellectuals

>"fascist" utilitarianism
Pseudo-reactionary get out.

>/pol/
>fascist
Epic.

>Pseudo-reactionary?
Please explain.. Id call you a name too but i don't believe in insulting the mentally disabled

The hyper-pragmatist ideal that some attribute to fascism inherently goes against its original futurist ethos. You must fundamentally misunderstand the modern ideology of fascism to use it as a means to achieve the19th century ideal of utilitarianism.

>Real discussion there is impossible.
it is a rare site but I enjoy digging for diamonds in the rough

intellectuals critique

Because fascism isn't based on any new or developing intellectual thought. It always hearkens back to texts that are loosely connected to fit some grand intellectual foundation, the validity of which is determined by the leader of the movement. (((intellectual))) fascism doesn't exist

>Because fascism isn't based on any new or developing intellectual thought.
>F-FUTURISTS WERE REACTIONARIES!!!!!11
(You)

Explain how futurists weren't reactionaries

>Futurism was a rejection of the past, and a celebration of speed, machinery, violence, youth and industry; it also advocated the modernization and cultural rejuvenation of Italy.

TL Note: "Reactionary" means "anyone that's not a communist"

>Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshiped technology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditional spiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of the capitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of 1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

Reactionaries existed before communism, bud.

So?

> an ideology based upon Blood and Earth (Blut und Boden)
This applies to Nazism only, not all of fascism.

Did Mussolini not romanticize the past greatness of the Roman Empire in relation to the new Italy? Futurism doesn't necessarily negate nationalist nostalgia

He was doing this based on ideas from Sorel and the emerging "science" of psychoanalysis. It's not reactionary so much as it's using classical motifs in new and radical ways. Fascism was modernism applied to politics.

The reason fascists don't like intellectuals has more to do with, as Nicholas Taleb would call it, "skin in the game". A middle class intellectual who constantly theorizes but never acts isn't someone to be admired, at least in the fascist sense. A youth who picks up a book full of bold ideas, then picks up his gun and charges into the world ready to inflict those ideas and test their value against the real world is.

Rejecting evidence when placed before them, resorting to memes and calling you a cuck isn't an arguement

what evidence are you referring to

It didn't.

Early 20th century fascism built off the distrust of the Jewish and communist "intellectuals" in the universities and positions of power.

It mirrors the modern world today actually. Plenty of people have lost faith in the education system and see the supposed intellectuals that are pushed in media as nothing but hacks. I think people are misguided in this but it's difficult not to be when any kind of popular media is reporting that "experts say 95% chance of winning for Hillary" or "experts say immigration is great for the economy" or "intellectuals support BLM" or "expert philosopher has opinion". It's not difficult to see how people quickly become tired of the whole "we're free-thinkers but we all think the same things and we believe in scientific evidence, not authority but here's my credentials, I'm right and not you"

Time and time again you see that the Nazi party tried to rally the working class against the predominantly Jewish and Communist institutions that were in conflict with the German's national socialist ideals.

You can see the same thing happening now with how the religious, especially evangelicals or traditionalists, see themselves as under attack because they don't believe in evolution and think atheism is a satanic conspiracy. It seems to jumble up legitimate grievances with the "intellectual" establishment along with propaganda or delusion.

Because authoritarianism is the opiate of the uneducated and useless. Having a strong ruler takes away the individual's personal responsibility. They want a strong ruler to look after them and lead them because they can't look after and lead themselves.

This is why capitalism is shat on by socialists and fascists. They are unable to live their own lives, find their own education and job. They prefer to have their complete lives assigned and not having to bother with anything but follow and execute.

Because all totalitarian regimes despise intellectuals you stupid cuck. We don't need 4 active Nazi threads on Veeky Forums at the same time. Especially with stupid questions like yours

>echo chamber
>Your board is rightly considered a joke.

They're undeniably one of the forces that just got Trump elected president of the United States.

You don't "go to the kitchen" anymore because you can't take the heat, simple as that.

Only joke here is on you, stay delusional though.

>Because authoritarianism is the opiate of the uneducated and useless.
>Having a strong ruler takes away the individual's personal responsibility.

Hmmm. That does explain all the niggers choking the US prison system at the moment.

Who knew that any ol' random prison warden was a black Hitler :^)

That was an actual opinion of Mishima, when he adopted anti-intellectualism. Which is usually used in a derogatory fashion, but is in fact a perfectly legitimate philosophical stance.

wait a minute...

So everyone in this thread agrees that an evil white society which despised intellectuals, were racist and wanted to kill all Jews was inventing rockets while Africans could barely figure out mud huts?

Even I feel embarrassed for how stupid blacks are. lol.

intellectuals=/=scientists dumb animeposter.

Despised Intellectuals that did not agree with their point of view

An intellectual is a special class and does not refer to all academics. Physicists and Historians do not make up the "intelligentsia". That group is a bourgeois liberal clique that operate inside the universities, in the media and newspapers, and in the cultural space. These people are parasites, and that has been recognized by Socialists and Fascists and Democrats alike. With boundless arrogance they deconstruct and they mock, rotting a culture from the inside, telling people they have no culture, or that if they do they should be ashamed of it. This all starts in the Enlightenment, and sprawls out into the Free Ones, and then the French salons of the 1950s and 1960s. These people are parasites and pseudo-philosophers. Insolent and immature, contributing nothing.

Everyone hates intellectuals except intellectuals. Just look around the west today and you can see how people, academics included. are turning on the intelligentsia yet again. And I say good riddance.

Fascism combats ... not intelligence, but intellectualism... which is... a sickness of the intellect... not a consequence of its abuse, because the intellect cannot be used too much... it derives from the false belief that one can segregate oneself from life.

—Giovanni Gentile

>They're undeniably one of the forces that just got Trump elected president of the United States.

The worst thing is /pol/niggers actually believe this.