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yu have been warned
I think DBFZ might be shit bros...
Can Failed to initialize network beat Jiren?
Play Sniffdroid 18
What game will "kill" jive next now that dbfz is confirmed garbage?
fatesluts fg when
is every character available in the dbfz beta?
No, only 11.
playing a game that is 99% men and 1% robot
yall niggas gay
Who do i blame for this?
Fox ears instead of cow horns?
servers so overloaded that you can't even get into a match
and this is only the pre-orders
Why are you sfvfags so threatened by the DBFZ hype? Your game isn't going anywhere, don't cry.
honestly i would've preferred a naruto 3v3
who is the dhalsim function in dbfz?
staying up late for beta
I made a mistake bros...
Would've been a monumental waste of Arc's time.
only a god can kill another god
Server down for maintenance before I could start a second game. Going out with an undefeated 1-0 record.
dbfz looks like shit
pcfag so can't get monster hunter til august
DID YOU SEE THAT? HE JUST LANDED A FIREBALL INPUT THAT WAS TOO SICK BROS!!
bought a 200$ fightstick just for DBFZ
don't like it at all
Who /so excited there's no need to shitpost about other games dying/ here?
why do street fighter retards say this about every game
Jive is Street Fighter, so nothing will kill it no matter how shitty it is except for a sequel.
yuropoors wake up
dbfz starts getting shit on
only capcom games are allowed to be praised
At least the cast would have different powers
DID YOU SEE THAT? HE JUST LANDED A THIRD SHIMMY THAT WAS TOO SICK BROS!!
So is the DBFZ beta up yet? How many GB is it?
That's like any fighting game vappa
does my team order matter
planning on frieza, piccolo, krillin
You can dwonload it now, but you have to wait like an hour for maintenance to be over.
I main Lightning
The stick or the game? The stick will grow on you and there are always other games you can use a stick for. If it's the stick, play around on some platformers/bullet hells or something you do enjoy to play. It will get you more comfortable with it.
Any fighting game's mechanics consist exclusively of fireball inputs
Guess no streams for DBFZ yet?
tfw I can say this and it's literally true now
like 2.5 gbs
It's up if you pre-ordered.
Pretty small, like 2 or 3 gigs. Servers are fucked, though.
Yes, look up point/middle/anchor.
it's another "eufgg seethposting and other gay shit" episode
time for bed
What can you do after grab in a combo?
Trying to get something working with Krillin but after air 2H, vanish, grab what should I do? Just super?
What happened to high IQ 1v1 fighting games?? Why is everyone making tag kusojs now??
wat was meant by this statement?
man if you retards cant take dragon ball and it brioke you retards minds this much just imagine when the next mortal kombat gets revealed you idiots might end up killing yourselves out of anger
i dont hate marn like others but he is so disgusting to look at
You know, I don't usually mind super fat guys in the FGC. Most of them, despite looking ugly as fuck, are okay guys, like Kizzie Kay in GGXrd. Even Justin is okay.
But Marn just comes off as a disgusting piece of shit for some reason. I can't quite put my finger on what it is about him that just gives off sleazy vibes.
No one is impressed because someone did a half circle or dp. Very simplistic and retarded vappa meme
Nobody can actually play it yet so no.
a game is complete garbage because it only has fireball inputs
Wew so basically you can only win at fighting games if you can twist a little plastic stick around faster than someone else?
No wonder you memers hate Smash.
based yuros working this mark into a shoot
that condescending attitude over a video game
what a cringy fatass
probably upset he had to fire more staff who wouldn't sleep with him
Mortal Kombat is more in-depth than this shit
Smash is also more in-depth than this shit
Actually, turns out we can play it. You load up the game, try to connect, it says servers are down so you can't connect but would you like to fight a vs. CPU trial match with random characters instead? Then you click okay and have a CPU fight.
they saw the success of mvci and are following suit
It's what happens when high IQ fighting games go unsupported
Wait, do you need to have preordered in order to play?
Literally turning on my ps quadruple to main Lightning right now
what game is worth getting good at currently? I've casually played fighters over the years but I'm looking to go tryhard mode now.
why does a game need to have crazy complex inputs foe you people
I hate this game so much!
also im gonna play it
the capcuck mentality
Where the fuck is all the parrying? This is supposed to be Dragon Ball
preorders get it a day earlier
did you ever watch the SFV excellent adventures where he was on? Parts of the video are muted in one of the segments, with a caption saying "edited out at marns request"
he also talks about how he got some girl to quit her job at a bbq restaurant and work at his internet cafe, then fired for not fucking him
he's absolutely a sleazy fuck
Do you even own a dog breek?
did you stop jiving brick?
"SFV Pro Player"
"Heading to Vietnam gathering to play MvCi. Should just stay home and finish this show... But bodying people with some Zero sounds good too."
"S-Stupid shills h-heh heh"
whatever you think looks the coolest/most fun.
sf5 has server issues due to amount of people playing
"nice servers crapcom!"
dbfz has server issues due to amount of people playing
"BASED ARC SYSTEM WORKS"
I don't think I'm gonna be able to pull off these fireball inputs under pressure bros...
it's another "everyone on Veeky Forums is one person" post
Capcom games if you're just in it for the money.
Guilty Gear if you're in it for manly fun.
saibamen disappear on tag
hellzone grenade disappears on tag
ummmmmm isn't that the whole point of a team game
Gonna get monster hunter instead. dbfz is lame button mashing trash.
This literally never happened. Fucking retard
what a contrived tweet. sad!
both very disappointing, hope they change that
he is legitimately seething
Two threads in a row angry SFV fags have made up imaginary things I never said. Wew.
Still absolutely seething.
I main Y'shtola
Hello Marm, we know you can't sleep and are shitposting here for attention.
HOLY FR*CKIN BASED
I didn't use my PS4 much last week cause I am too lazy to switch the hdmi cable from my pc but when I buy a new DVI cable I'll probably play it more. Still, I stopped playing it ""seriously"" and playing ranked and stuff.
I didn't think real people actually communicated like this. Is this peak incel?
thanks boyes. I was leaning towards SFV anyway.
Every air combo looks exactly the same.
Imagine being a Dragon cuck right now. You paid 60 dollars for a beta and it doesn't even work. LMAO!
game release in TWO weeks
servers can't even handle a few thousand people attempting to play it
THE STATE OF DOOBERS RN
Might as well just make the game one button at this point
I can't wait for the week after DBFZ release when it dips below MvCI numbers.
tfw doobers goobers and boobers are all in a state of panic and im just over here jivin
SFV, everything else is dead.
This, I honestly can't believe it
If you hold down 236 l/m/h with Beerus instead of kicking the ball he just summons it
sfv was a full priced game
this is a beta to test online
There's like one or two people who are shitposting rampantly in this thread. Jesus Christ.
Dbfz living in marns head rent free
This thread STINKS!
I was gonna call you a liar but it actually worked. Holy shit. This is all I wanted in the beta, too bad it'll probably stop when the servers are back up. Unless it works when loading the beta while your console's offline.
UH, THAT'S KI BLAST TO YOU, CAPKEK
TOO MANY people playing
PC version will be the Goldilocks edition bros...
Will Dissidia be at EVO? DBFZ isn't looking so promising after this beta.
Does the DBFZ beta have Jap voices or do I have to use the shitty English voices?
anyone else here completely naked
It has both.
his name is Hit
literally fucking who?
marvel shills literally melting down
Valle using JP voices instead of the dub
Is he our guy?
he hits people
imagine spending all that time on a game that gets killed by dbfz
I am literally bored whenever I'm not watching a super or a transition.
One of the coolest new characters from super you dbz fartbaby
is there any point in even watching now?
Dooberz doesn't have anything like this yet though.
Wasn't he also the guy that had some fucking Nurgle shit going on with his legs?
legendary assassin who has that as his nickname due tor being famous for killing his assassination targets in one hit. has time-skipping power s and shit.
Her parents must be proud
Dodged just in time.
people that got to play DBFZ at beta events say it's good
people are super hyped during the closed beta
/fgg/ gets its hands on it and now it's supposedly shit
Fchamp was right, not only should tournaments be invitational, but games as well, it seems. I can't believe these idiot masses can't handle such a great game and these guys that never leave their houses have convinced themselves that they're game experts as well.
I just ate 5 cookies and now I feel guilty.
dodging low-key japanese players that would expose him in pools
Finally they made inputs easier, there was no need for fighting games to be that complicated. There's a reason nobody plays them.
*only good character from super
Keeps losing shit
Chickening out of evo japan
Being forced to play Doobz
what happened to young daigo?
Source? I don't remember this ever being mentioned anywhere.
NOOOOOOOOO ISDD SAYS DBZ IS SHIT
can i feel u up
/fgg/ gets its hands on it and now it's supposedly shit
They hardly have. Shit's been down for like an hour and a half. At most they've been able to trainboar and do 2 or 3 real matches. Then they probably don't even know mechanics on MAx's level so just shitpost.
wtf i love dbfz now
Stay IRL tranny
people are super hyped during the closed beta
This never happened, there was nothing but a massive amount of disappointment from everyone during the closed beta.
Europeans are fucking weird.
Do you really think he was born with the name Hit?
didn't think it was possible to fall asleep during a 20 second webbum.. now I know better
Will may wife Android 18 get lots of costume DLC? Summer beachwear?
no one he can spam booms with
Her children must be proud.
even a fucking brainlet like isdd can tell that dooberz is shit
Can't wait to watch an air combo bros...
It's Dragon Ball, there's a character named Nail and another named Bibidi.
can kamen rider have a legit 2d fighter now
Remember the guy who used to post pictures of flan?
I still don't get it.
there's literally a dedicated projectile button, he can spam booms with the whole cast
i never got it either
how can goobers EVER recover from this?
What did he actually say?
But you can't dash through booms
Getting monster hunter instead of this dbz shit
Can't wait to hit another canned v trigger combo bros...
Make the most beautiful DBZ game ever
it's a completely braindead tagteam kusoge
Capcom wins again.
But Marn just comes off as a disgusting piece of shit for some reason
If his tweeting is anything to go by then that reason is that he unironically acts like a Veeky Forums shitposter in real life.
If a textbook example of edgelord is the best DB Super has to offer I don't know why people put up with it.
Revisionist history? I recall a bunch of people going crazy over it after getting to play it. And no, not just that Max guy that goes crazy over every game.
What? I just love the character Bulma. She has been my "wife" since I first laid eyes on her 20 years ago, as she looked better than any other girls in my country.
washed up shitter thinks his opinion is relevant
too scared to compete in jp evo
says game is shit and isnt fun from less than 1 hour of playing
plans to play it anyway
It's utterly baffling how stupid capcucks are.
jesus look at those tiddies
I love how much the clothes move in this game to hide the fact that the characters are completely motionless 90% of the time.
dbz and mhw come out on the same day
why would anyone buy this third rate marvel clone over the literal GOTY?
How do we stop Capcom from winning again? They can't keep getting away with this.
Hit's not really an edgelord. More of a quiet and character.
tfw no big tittied, big nosed soprano gf
every combo in dbzf literally looks the same LMAOO
I'm a pcfat. Still not buying dbfz.
European Union /fgg/
can't wait for the usual goobsquad ie. jiyuna obama biscuits etc to quote or subtweet this while absolutely seething
punkdachad don't give a fuck
falling for the first white slut that you see
Mexican or Brazilian?
capcucks falling back on something that isn't even a fighting game
Alright, after playing it a bit more it's actually pretty entertaining. But all the combos are getting extremely repetitive.
HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN
did you see that combo bros...
DBFZ is so bad and braindead it makes people not want to play fighting games
Capcucks ASSURE you that you have to play a Capcom game for at least 100 hours and wait for the meta to develop before you are allowed to say you dislike it
Capcucks believe they are so intelligent that they can determine how good a game from another company is after looking at it for about 5 minutes.
Funny how that works
Well yeah, I thought we all determined that they were crazy a while back
Are you new?
funny enough mh has more spacing and neutral than both jive and diaper ball
SFVAE + MHW
who needs anything else desu?
dbfz is by far the worst fighter I have ever played
Not enough throw/button 50/50s to carry him
Is that a boy or a girl? Either way it disgusts me and I demand you never post it again.
Oh fuck off SF is garbage but Monster Hunter is GOAT.
Just bought Tekken 7, it's the first Tekken game I've played since the PS1 days. How fucked am I going to be? Only ever really played Arcsys fighters and some SF, how does Tekken compare in difficulty to learn? And will people hate me for playing lucky chloe? I want to enjoy the salt factor so the more people angry at me the better and she seems great for that.
God damn this game is bad.
legendary assassin who has that as his nickname due tor being famous for killing his assassination targets in one hit
not an edgelord
I'm almost sure his first line is "behind you" or something like that.
That's because he actually is disgusting. Did you ever see his legs? He walked around with a biohazard on them and went to events wearing shorts.
Capcucks think that antiairing is unfair these days?
Why do people complain about anti air jabs so much? Literally every game has anti air jabs.
This. He attracts the edgelord crowd, though.
Punk must not play many games if this is the shittiest one he's played. He's obviously just trying to trigger dooberz, as the game is ultimately just bland, not a travesty like some other fighting games. Did this guy never play Hokuto Ken? I don't think his balls dropped when it came out, but that's easily ArcSys's most broken and retarded game.
Objectively speaking there is nothing wrong with auto combos.
I would argue that gameplay wise this game is actually shittier than mvci.
doesn't have the final patch because it doesn't come out and is not applied until 16th
lets pretend this is final anyway
doobers are fucking melting right now lmao
His job as an assassin sounds edgyy, but in the show he's just quiet until he warms up to Goku. IF you want edgy, then you'll find it in Goku black.
they expect to get free damage and pressure off a crossup jump
when they get jabbed out of it they get salty
Whoa bros I just mashed my crush counter button and did a 4 hit combo again when they guessed wrong...so hype doods...
Because it prevents you from doing the epic 50/50 pressure jive is known and loved for whenever you make the high IQ hold up forward play.
because they're braindead and beat good jumpins
And crouching jab antiair just takes it to another level
every post that's about SFV AE is now from doobers
how autistic are you?
make post on /fgg/
it's another blatant shitpost
japs still have hokuto no ken tournaments so they still find it fun, even though it's a total piece of shit
dbz is not fun
I wish dbfz had milkers like this bros...
Got him in the corner now, gonna go for my 5th shimmy throw
He'll never see this one coming...
No they didn't, they said it was fun but matches lasted too long due to damage nerfs across the board and that certain combo paths were useless due to this. As well as people saying
how simple it was but letting that slide as it being in beta and hoping the game would have more depth on release.
DBZF will be exactly what anyone with common sense expected, a fun game but the majority of the FGC will go back to their preferred game and in a month leaving only DBZ fans playing the game. The game doesn't have the depth of a proper Arcsys game and won't have the crazy reset/mix-up potential that someone who enjoys tag games wants.
Finally someone with enough balls to call obama out.
maxishillian dude streaming dbzf
viewers dropping FAST
SF players think that antiairing is now braindead
He's waiting for the maintenance to end.
You say like it's in large numbers.
Why not just leave if you're such a salty bitch
i think i hate this game
i've been saying this since last year, jiyuna too
they're fucking clowns
crazy reset/mix-up potential that someone who enjoys tag games wants.
Not all tag games are like that.
Are you basing this off of playing the CPU? I didn't think anyone could get in right now.
jiyuna got banned for shitting on sfv while doing cpt commentary, how is that remotely the same as the mvci shills
Why do you people suck Marn's cock when he is willing to sell out the FGC for his league of legends team and fuck with brackets?
crazy reset/mix-up potential that someone who enjoys tag games wants.
Why does nobody play MVCI if that's something people want?
Infinite has more mixups and resets than UMVC3 ever did.
Pressing mk to antiair with adon was fun
Mashing 3f jab to antiair after you whiffed something and get a 50/50 reset is gay
go to /v/ thread
people having reasonable discussion about the game while patiently waiting for maintenance to be over
some giving decent opinions like too many auto-combos, or that there's tricks to figure out but the auto-combos get in the way
come to /fgg/
passive-aggressive shitposts, some clearly being made by the same person
Am I in bizarro world? /v/ is usually the shitty place to be.
marn is the protector the fgc doesn't deserve
He's based now for shitting on vappa's game
This place died with SFV.
he was on joe's stream talking a bunch of smack.
Oh no another anime girl avatar I'm scared I'll become a tranny now
/v/ is shit but Veeky Forums has been a co-ordinated shitposting den for years.
go to /v/
Mystic. You weren't just on XB1 lobby 8 for WC for DBFZ were you?
Dbfz will have an extremely successful launch, but it will have a massive drop in the coming months. Not because it's a bad game, but because the normies that got memed into buying it don't know the hell that 3v3 can be for noobs. They will drop it faster than Tekken and jive combined. I hope I'm wrong though. I want this game to succeed.
what the fuck he's gone full alien nut
Whenever there's news about a fighting game this place turns to shit. I still am not sure if it's invaded by retards, if regulars just turn on shitpost-mode or a combination of the two.
stay in /v/ with rest of the non-skilled plebs, fagbutt
How do autocombos get in the way? Just stop spamming the same button.
is the online playable yet? come catch these hands b
I think they are equally shit. like i can't even decide which is worse
He looks like that obese hawaiian dude that some user spams around here, except if that obese hawaiian dude was a smelly drug addict instead of a sunbathing Jabba the Hutt.
/v/ loves the game
Not surprised. DBFZ panders to the lowest common denominator.
Now? He's been fucking Guilty Gear for years.
telling /v/ to stop mashing
lol riiiiiight. it's like blind people trying to discuss sunsets over there.
Remember to tune out the Marvel shills shitposting
They're a dying breed
finally my dude is streaming
That's what I thought
vappa getting nervous
yeah the ultimate irony of the clowns wanting people to stay out of the anime scene is they are perfectly content reaching into the honeypot then calling other people shills because they dont spend their free time pandering to r/kappa
having auto combos being optional is nice.
Also interferes with hitconfirms.
tfw i actually agree with him
i would be down for some alien pussy because earth girls are nasty
why the fuk nobody playing dbzf on twitch
interferes with hitconfirms
Same reason people don't play alot of fighting games that offer what they want. People say they want shit then realize they don't when they play it.
You can apply this to any genre and any form of entertainment.
NOOOOOO HOW CAN DBZ BE BAD
THEY COPIED THE ANIME ATTACKS FRAME FOR FRAME, THEY'RE MAKING THE GAME WITH LOVE AND SOUL
there's gonna be some nasty shit in this game with no push blocking desu
using more then 1 light?
Valle and our dood are
what are the combo rules for dbfz anyhow?
i think i might leave this place for awhile, you guys are out of control
Lightning's voice is different in this game
Why cant you just admit you like jive beause it is easy?
Dont you want more out of a fighting game than grab-or-heavy punch mixup?
get a HDMI switcher, changes between two systems with one button press.
you know if you hold back they don't come out right
who unironically does 5/2A instead of 1/4A
jive is easy
post ur tournament wins
Alright, this game is going to need a LOT of bitches. Clearly, the mechanics will not save it, so you're going to unironically need Bulma, Videl, and Chichi in bikinis to make money off of this game. Also, Caulifla will need to be a top tier and the first DLC character.
will be available on dlc
That never happened
BBCTB May 31.
And still doesn't detract from the point that it should be optional just like KI's "combo" assist.
Smash 4 is easy, doesn't mean someone from here will beat a pro player who plays 10 hours a day and knows the frame data and combo of all 50 characters.
broke up team RWBY for dlc cash in. this game is ded to me
142 channels currently playing DBFZ. Let's go give some of the 0-viewer streams some audience.
Who's the Guile of Dissidia?
well now that dbfz is confirmed shit I guess it's just AE and monster Hunter for the year. what a shame
Damn, Brick looks like THAT?
If I do, you won't stop playing jive anyways
I was able to play MvC2 decently when I was like 8 years old. Why are people shitting on DBFZ inputs?
But what about the blazblue tag game?
they shouldn't be in because im bad
all these blonde people
sigh.. this game shows why diversity is important..
So, an obvious license cashgrab mashing game intended for kids turned out to be less than stellar and this is somehow surprising to who exactly
dbzf looks fucking trash lmao
I don't really mind that, I just hate when someone projects what they personally want to "people" and try to make their personal wantlist some kind of objective argument.
NOOOOOO STOP LAUGHING AT US WE WERE FINALLY GONNA KILL SF BROS
40 characters including dlc
half the game will be dlc
can they be any more jewish
You don't want some of this man. I'll whoop that ass and give it minus five stars.
He got called out because a dude at Capcom doesn't like him, nothing to do with him shitting on the game, same reason he doesn't cover Arc stuff as much and he's been forced to shill Tekken. Otherwise numerous commentators would be blacklisted for saying shit about SFV.
Listening to Jiyuna the drama queen
The most popular fighting game currently is just that but with a lower budget. People don't give a shit about quality, just the company that made it and community personalities.
everyone hates AE changes
mvci dead in the water
Feels fucking great bros
RWBY IS DLC
WHAT THE FUCK JEWSYS
Damn vaille looks like that now? Is... Is he married?
no, just hispanic
Nothing to do with that. He didn't get to commentate some ASW events either because apparently someone at ASW hates him too.
MHW will save Capcom
everyone hates AE changes
not Kolin mains!
nothing to do with him shitting on the game
lol just lol
same reason he doesn't cover Arc stuff as much
literally just finished commentating asw awards AT ASW headquarters
i love the changes
hispanics age like shit.
it's just a beta
But what if it's gonna suck like SCV?
I'm pretty excited, but also kinda worried
C'mon guys. Let's not hate each other's preferred game of choice.
Tekken, street fighter, guilty gear, dbfz. It doesn't matter. Let's all be friends and have fun playing fighting games.
correct because idgaf about your opinions binch
He couldn't commentate some GG tournament either, he said so himself. Apparently he threw his drink at mori during an ASW party.
Everyone freaking the shit out of on theoryfighting alone and they have to *gasp* adjust and maybe get a fucking grip that it wasn't just their main that got dumped.
Wait what, did they put littlekuriboh to voice freeza in dbfz?
did they just show a trailer and gameplay for dlc characters when the game doesnt even come out for 3 months
POONGKO STOP PLAYING THESE DUMB RETRO GAMES AND PLAY STREET FIGHTER GODDAMIT
i want to user, but everyone keeps making fun of me
i know the lobby you're chillin in, kid. better hope I don't catch that ass online.
playing 18/kid buu/cell so when you get scraped by that team you'll know you deserved it
I think a big problem with FighterZ will be that people are gonna be too lazy to look at all the mechanics and will just mash like retards then complain. Valle's somewhat doing this by trying to play the game like a traditional fighter and not making use of shit like vanishes or swap combos, but he's at least not bitching at all.
Skullgirls still looks bad
Literally the character I wanted to play
RWBY fighting game
Half the RWBY team is DLC
Enjoy your dead game
those psychotic eyes on sakura
lol just lol
Numerous other commentator have talked shit about SFV, don't see them getting blacklisted
literally just finished commentating asw awards AT ASW headquarters
He also did commentary for SFV tournies after he said he'd been blacklisted.
Listening to Jiyuna the drama queen
even the new SFV art is still this shitty
How the fuck? Doesn't even have the excuse of being rushed out like the base game.
But Blake's a cat??
based arcsys gatekeeping brick from playing bbtag
bbtag confirmed for alive game
add rwby characters
only 2 of them are on disk
Karin is kawaii in this art so fuck you
Sure thing buddy
lmao he's at almost every English stream in Japan. How do streamboars believe such retarded shit
there is no excuse for retardation
either japs don't give a single shit about the artwork or the retarded fuck who drew this shit has blackmail on somebody at capcom
it has to be one of the two
spee meems in fgg
Pulled a whole match back with Krillin
This game is
does the same combo over and over
DBFZ is deep
Consider the following:
Every other fighting game is exactly as scrubby at launch.
ISDD gets a match
delay: 7 frames
yeah i'm not buying this trash
why is there no open beta on PC
I guess i'm refunding my copy on steam. Haha what an awful game.
You've been reposting this shit for like an hour.
New tech was always being found every minute in MvCI.
mvci and dbfz fucking sucks
combos = depth
same reason as why it has denuvo
We've been cucked
But watching max ride this bull ain't so bad bros
BE VERY AFRAID CAP(C)UCKS
Wait for tomorrow to get the official Brick opinion on DBFZ
If by "new tech" you meant shit from the previous titles on different characters.
shills get training mode 6 months early
NEW TECH EVERY MINUTE BROS
You like Toradora, your opinion couldn't be worth any less.
Playing DBFZ is ruff.
run into lowtiergod while searching for a match in dbfz
brick what's your opinion on the pasta vs pizza debate
I must be blind. Where are you seeing him.
Orie is here. You can see her hair ahoge and dress.
Based ISSD plays Android18
a hyped game on beta still can't beat the glorious SFV in its deathbed
ltg doesnt play salad dodgers
Pizza wins easily
only 36000 from all these people playing
daigo's stream gets more than that lmaoooooooooooo
why would i want that
oh you can see yang there next to makoto
need a webm of that part too much overlapping from the stills
Thanks user for pick.
Left character is YANG 100% awesome Yang bros
how much viewers did the AE preview get?
KAME HAME... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Who undefeated in the beta so far here?
There's no way the TOP WAIFU would be out.
Here's hoping for S2 costume and bikes.
See me on release day my guy. 16 isn't on the beta and I can't dunk you over and over without him.
because I haven't even downloaded it yet.
Why is no one using Yamcha? This nigga is sick.
less views half of half the views of a fucking mario game
TRASH GAME LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
but sml2 is better than every mario game after 64
vappa so scared they're using fake news websites to feel secure
This, who takes that faggot's opinion seriously? Is it because he's the best Melty player in uh... Italy? Only one character reverse beats in this game.
The funniest part of Marn tweets is that they read like a post from a /fgg/ shitposter.
I've won like 15 matches so far with 18 on my team. It's taking a while to find some mtches for me.
Dbfz I'd not fun.
I'm willing to bet cash money that that fat diseasd fuck would get his ass kicked by randoms from /fgg/ in any game
How do I into Android 18?
Is it just me or did they increase damage in DBFZ considerably?
there's no doubt in my mind he shitposts here. he fucking looks like a caricature of an internet troll.
Brawl had better connection than this.
this is sooooo dumb
it is marvel3 all over again
fuck this stupid game i'm not buying it
They did, feels about right now
Half the game is DLC
Can't believe people said this kusoge will kill jive.
is this nigga nakkiel transitioning? lmao
capcucks comparing twitch numbers at 6am
Beat a guy who lets his intro play but skips your intro and skips your win screen
lol, doesn't change shit buddy
Post android 18.
I'm already sick and tired of the cutscenes.
nerf launchers or this game will flop
Who is he?
which stream are we watching bros
watch max dood, dood
fucking kill yourself
Characters available in open beta:
Characters not available in open beta:
Dashing cutscene after a character gets KO'ed is getting old fast. I get it they don't want people to do setups but goddamn.
holy shit DBFZ looks fun
only reason to buy anime mugen
half of them are dlc
COME FORTH, SHENRON!!!
Not watching our guy in the year of the lord twenty18
Times have changed since I left.
I'm having more fun doing auto combos and tagging, doing random supers than I ever have in Jive
My connections have been really good so far, especially with my internet being shitty lately
i wanna drink mommy's sweat
Have to pay for the worst RWBY
i told you
It gets old fast.
Do you have some mommy issues or something, bruh?
watch max dood, dood
It's annoying that we probably won't be able to turn it off but it doesn't come up nearly as often as danger time.
lol can't believe it looks good. whatever i'll get it and drop it in TWO weeks instead of 1
Oh well, at least Nappa is cool. By the way, are the Saibamen only meant for oki, or do they have other utilities?
I'm dropping it after the beta
For a few years now, yeah. His girlfriend is hot too.
DBFZ have perfect voices
that Kid boo scream echoes through eternity
that FINAL FLASSSSHU
Why did people expect a shitty dragonball cash-in to be a real fighting game?
hit not in the beta
I wanted to play someone who doesn't do full screen beams all the time. Damn, son. At least I'll try Beerus tomorrow.
watch spooky , he doesnt care about anything but playin and its nice and chill
I hate Dragon Rush or whatever its called
R1? Is it supposed to be a throw?
nah i just think its funny asf to say
It's more of a fighting game than fucking KoF14 and MvCI combined
Does the game inform you if the opponent is using auto combos?
combos feel the same for all fucking characters
netcode is booty
only one sniff
low fps animations make it hard to tell what's going on in scrambles
Yeah game is trash and not even fun can't believe I wasted 90 on it fuck me
Imagine being this bitter
Imagine being this scared of your game dying
I paid over a HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS... FOR THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!?
ARCSYS, NERF LAUNCHERS NOW OR ELSE
tfw best android 18 in fgg
Why the fuck is Android 18 frail as shit
i dont like it when you guys act like this...
get a come from behind victory as Gohan
What should I be doing as her? Can't seem to land the command grab often since everyone is a retard that rushes in all day with the super dash
Of course the crapcom general would hate dbfz it's predictable
You guys are worse than r/krappa
She's a woman
first dissidia game
5 of 6 characters are lightning
goty all years
everyone is playing DBFZ
I'm practicing focus cancels alone on USF4 PC
I am high IQ, right capbros?
Do you legitimately believe Street Fighter will die to a fucking bland DBZ game with pretty graphics
dissidia ends up being a better and more fun fighting game than dbfz
as long as u aint jivin there
I dropped the garbage doober beta after an hour and I am not completing remaining sfv trials on fucking alt accounts. Even that torture is more fun and productive.
i'm sad bro
can i get a non shill non hater opinion on dbfz?
I love Lightning so much bros...
I like to stay back and throw distructo discs. But also, I use her on point with goku's assist since it's a straight beam. Other than that, I'm really just using the mechanics the best I can and caling my assists at the right time. Don't really have any specific advice to share on her right now. Does down+heavy beat out the homing dash? I thought I remember hearing that you could counter homing spam and I think that was it.
It's only mildly entertaining once you get over the snazzy transitions and cutscenes and it doesn't feel that good to play either.
Wow another guy spamming fullscreen kamehameha and mashing dragon rush so epic I'm glad I had to wait 15min to fight him.
It's okay fun and great fanservice, but I don't really like team fighters.
the menu for dragonball has more detail than the entirety of sfv
It's simple and boring as fuck.
Wait for tomorrow and our guy Brick will give you the absolutely 100% correct opinion
like mvci, im going to reserve judgement until a few weeks after release
Very mediocre gameplay terrible netcode.
all of the characters play exactly the same
cash grab shilled out the ass
why would i want that?
Max is fighting dank right now.
DANK VS MAX DOOD
As someone who knows nothing about Dragon ball but is watching DBFZ why does every character look to have the same moves?
These BP numbers are too big for brainlet like me to read
netcode is bad
on a stress test beta
Amazing. Kill yourselves.
no it's not true. every move is unique, done from scratch and made with love and care
dank getting destroyed by max
I thought the beta was supposed to have training mode??
the netcode seemed good in dbfz boys I was only getting 2-3f delay
It is fun so far
Connections have been good (outside that maintenance)
There are more to combos than people made out but it isn't mvc
It feels like you have a lot of options but being universal makes them a bit less special
Overall I'd say I like it
DABK IS IN THE BIG LEAGUES BROS
HE MADE IT
Posting opinions on DBFZ without waiting for the correct one (mine) tomorrow when I can actually play it
When you hit'em with the Father-Son Kamehameha Full Power
caring about dbfz when the real fighter of the year is coming out at the end of the month, final fantasy dissidia nt
does sf carry the fgc?
Max's piccolo is pretty sick bros
I called in a Vegeta assist to barrage my opponent so I could power up to 3 bars and finish him as a super sayain 3 Goku
It's peer to peer you clueless retard. You're thinking of matchmaking.
Consistent very low lag is better than random teleporting and stuttering every few seconds
I played half the tutorials (I main Lighting!!) and the game seems interesting but team games are inherently bad
doink is shit at games
well color me surprised lmaooooo
delay at its best is better than Capcom's heinous attempt at rollback netcode
Okay, and? Just use good rollback like Marvel?
think the other guy is really good
don't notice he filled the 7 autocombos by himself
I guess i'll just mash like everyone else
sf and capcom carry everything fighting game related, even this shit ass general
Lightning is built to carry to be honest, she can do almost everything.
DOODS how is max already so good at fighterZ
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And Yang is dead last
Even the best roll back will have issues at times, same for the best delay. It is implemented well enough here that I have no complaints. A good rollback netcode would at best make a slight improvement, so it really just sounds like you are complaining for the sake of it
literally just paste sprites into the game
all of them are dlc
WHAT THE FUCK
What's the Arena Match thing in the middle of the lobby and how do I use it? Is there really only player/ranked match available?
Not about Blake being DLC and no Yang, but that Blake and Yang being DLC means there's that much smaller of a chance for JNPR or other RWBY characters.
whoa is that a Brieza colour scheme!?
lmaaaoo dlc out the aaaaaaaasssssssss before the game is even out
full nickle and dime mode based arcjews and bamcocks
Lots more practice than most people due to closed beta experience and various Bandai Namco invitations?
why would i care about your opinion?
is dabk /ourguy/ now?
We're reaching jewery levels that shouldn't even be possible
How long until official crossover game?
dont know why but watching dbfz make me wanna play cvs
Nope, rollback means you can do super technical stuff online as if it was offline, delay makes that significantly harder, you're just a scrub.
I've been watching for hours and haven't seen shenron once. Could vappa have been lying?
announced next year but bamco cancels it lol
The only people that are actually playing dbz are people that are mashing light attack and hoping for the best or people that played the closed beta every second it was open and doing perfect setups with their gohan, goku, vegeta team
The difference between having to play delay 2-3 and playing delay 0 is huge.
blake and yang are really dlc
holy shit the greed is unreal
Max did it.
Are sprites really this expensive???
They seriously need to put towa in dbfz. I need to complete my team.
SHIT AIN'T GONNA RECOLOR ITSELF
Yeah for the stream while shitting on some guy
they are when you need to fund a mobile game
No chance fer my cute toaster team now
His girlfriend is hot too.
I LOVE CHADHAN EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HIS POWER UP DOES BESIDES LOOK COOL
what mobile game?
spooky shitting on niggas with pure fundies and autocombos
reverse beat, damage boost, makes his over head/cross up move a teleport
/our guy/ calling out that slimebag Marn
Is there any chance of fighterz surviving with basically rising thunder tier specials?
Everything is a fireball
List of things Jiyuna definitely isn't:
Jiyuna objectively posts here.
isn't our guy
Hello Marn, how's the leg?
Execution is not something that most people care about
Who the fuck cares if something is a fireball, a DP or a pretzel motion? If you practice its more about reacting and using the move at the right time than fighting your controller trying to do the move
marn's been heck of a scumbag but he's damn right about majinobama
t. a goober
anyone sf5 eu?
I'm a super advocate of "i like fighting games" and "fighting games are so great" but this shit is disgusting. I also don't see Tao in the silhouettes.
DBFZ doesn't look too bad but after my experience with SFV betas I'll just wait for the release game to come out.
I just wish fighterz wasn't a team fighter
That is my only wish
sorry but you didn't have 7 meters, no wish for you
ISDD likes dbfz now
Wtf I love dragon Ball now
Will dbfz replace Melee as the party masher king?
It sure would have been nice to just give us single player versus with character select so we could actually practice with characters other than Goku, Krillin, and Gohan.
Anyone EU Jive?
There really isn't a 1v1 mode?
confirmed low iq
yeah he's where the money goes all right, getting rich off of goobies
kid buu is the brainlet main confirmed.
Marn ain't wrong though even if he himself is a cunt.
I hate when pro anime players play casual match and bully people all day
wtf i hate marn less now
everyone in the FGC is scum
except for THE SAVIOR
this ISSD chat
the state of capcuck streamboars lmao
DBFZ is actually a fighting game though.
not a new IP
falseflagging capcuck exposed, guess you got tired of shitposting and actually decided to play a game, huh?
"I can't tell if he's good at the game or if he's button mashing innit" -imstilldadaddy
I get that people would spend cash for DOA or DBZF dlc, but who the hell is that Cross Tag Kuso's target customer?
Who would buy 20 dlc characters for that game?
Make a lobby.
Why do you watch that retard?
sounds like Marvel desu
no Yomi Counter in diaper ball
English Dragonball voices are shit there I said it
What is Arena Match for?
that one goober who's talking about how easy dbfz is and how GG is the hardest best game ever, and making up lies about dbzf combo system
I don't, I just checked the stream for a second because he can sometimes be quite amusing.
You are wrong.
I kinda like cell but wakamoto is goat anyway
To be fair this is a correct assessment of the game at this point. Can't even tell if I'm getting better or if I'm mashing harder kek.
Being a real shill who gets money and commenting game he dont likes >>>> Being a hidden shill who advertising shitty game for personal profit
broskiFGC is where I hang @
can't wait for AE and the nerfs that will destroy my main
watch max play doobz
he's just getting neutral hits that launch into j. L, j. M dj. L dj. M dj. H into ungassists into repeated launch into repeat said combo above
both players run from each other and just spam beams until someone fucks up, gets hit by a beam into vanish into same combo as above
or someone dives too deep with chase just to be anti-aired into combo above
Not bad, did you draw this nibba?
whos your main
20 character base roster
20 characters DLC after launch
LMFAO HOLY SHIT
HALF THE GAME IS DLC
tune in ISDD stream to see what you guys are talking about
19 Frame delay
WHY ARE TRUNKS AND GOTENKS NOT IN THE BETA
ARC SYS ALWAYS JEWS, BAYBEEE
what the fuck is arena match
Continue to book, everyone.
All of the non-RWBY characters will just be sprite ports anyway
This is advanced kuso
buying consoles for not NHL/FIFA on the continent of Europe
you realize after season 3 SFV, that half the cast will also be DLC?
dbfz confirmed high IQ
A match with people in the same lobby I think
What's not cool, yes. My Yang is DLC
b-based arcsys working my wallet into a shoot
at least I don't have to pay for it.
t. got all characters with fm
If you've been playing since launch you'll have made enough fm to buy them all free though? I know you're used to a company that puts out a 20 dollar balance patch for a game that was barely a year old but some companies are just based.
No it isn't. Still based Liara Tsoni.
buy her game (and her dlc)
Why did I waste 15 bucks on SFV during christmas
spam projectiles until they're in range of the knock them far away special before more projectiles
Ultimecia. She's in the next wave of the beta on the 15th.
So you can play the full game FOR FREE in 3 years.
becuz it's a fun and in-depth game that's getting an overhaul in a few days
Dang ISDD getting btfo by that french player from the youtube vids
MAX JUST SAID MVCI HAS A BETTER GAMEPLAY THAN DBZ, IT'S OVER
There's nothing in-dept about doing st.lk into throw or doing 4 s.MP's in a row
please elaborate, preferrably with stuff that what makes a game have depth not "it doesn't have x and y"
Then don't do that
No I refuse
Xenoverse 3 when? DBFZ is NOT my waiting room.
No I refuse
His opinion is worthless after shilling mvci so hard desu
where's the clip you stupid fuck? you don't just get to claim shit without proofs
Wait the beta is only on ps4?
I-it's not fair bros, I thought we were the masterrace
preferrably with stuff that what makes a game have depth
what makes a game have depth?
does it have to be super execution heavy like sf4?
does it have to include a billion kuso mechanics like anime fighters?
does it have to be filled with 30 second long combos like mahvel?
playing the same game for 10 years with zero changes
OFC It will be better. Look at first videos of MVC3
They're just stress testing it for us PChads
By having difficult decisions that don't boil down to 1-2 options everybody and their mother know about?
fuck off :)
What does the scouter say about Max's power level?
Play android 18.
no one plays mvci because no one plays mvci
implying dbfz will last more than a couple of weeks before falling victim to the same self fulfilling prophecy
sf hegemony isn't real
punk declares dbz the worst game in history
bbtag revealed to be 50% dlc
holy shit bros it's the goobageddon
dabk on suicide watch
by that logic laura is the most high IQ character in jive because she has resets into left/right/high/low/throw mixup memes lmao
he said it was a shithole
too bad it's dead lmao
Welcome to the world of Sony marketing.
Boycott this shit game and trashy company. Simple.
Tfw i never played DBFZ but i'm definitely best Android18 player here
Not really because going for that pure guess reset is almost always the optimal play so there is no hard decision involved.
still waiting for that clip of max
The fact that you need 7 bars to summon shenron makes it a pretty smart mechanic desu
give some example from a proper 'deep' game
he said the same thing months ago you obsessed weirdo
says the guy making shit up LMAO
Say it with me:
yrc into air dash into yomi counter
Capcucks are on fucking suicide watch
Is it time for a separate thread? It's like pulling 5 year olds apart.
is ourguy going to sweep the 30th anniversary tournament and take home the sportscar like he did five years ago?
BushinStyle and WNF bros early AE stream was pretty comfy desu. The game looks way more fun to play than the current version.
Blazblue cross tag battle
20 of them are DLC
fuck this, i'm gonna play SNK new game
only the smartest players can keep up with the immense depth of fantasy strike
capcuks trying their HARDEST to create a narrative
i need you 30th anniversary collection....
max just said mvci gameplay is better lmao
literally dead on arrival
It's our time.
expect japs to be SEETHING after a korean wins three mainstay tournaments
i know right?
So now that dbfz is confirmed blunder, what game will vappas cling to now?
20 dlc chars(half the cast) is next level shitery. even you cant defend this
Cut out 2/3rds of the roster to sell them as dlc
And you guys wonder why non-capcom games are dead.
Let's say you blocked a jab in Tekken.
You can try to dickjab to interrupt what he's doing next and get the frame advantage back but the opponent can dickjab too and he wins.
You can also backdash which is the safe option but basicly lets the opponent do whatever they want but might give you a whiffpunish opportunity.
You can also do high risk high reward stuff like press magic 4 or duck without pressing a button or sidestep which all reward a combo if the opponent did the option that loses to these options.
These are some universal options you can do, there is of course character specific ones too and ones that are not generally as useful but serve as hard reads on really specific stuff(like hopkicking after a blocked jab)
it's still not as bad as SFxT where they locked 1/3 of the roster on the disc for 8 months.
30th anniversary tournament
u gonna claim to play this game and not play it too?
20 DLC characters
most of them will just be lifted straight from P4U
sfxt was a complete disaster yea
i hate where fighting games in general are heading
Would you like to play me in KoFXIV right this very second?
this is what im talking about
what? im not defending that shit
im asking for proof about max saying mvci has better gameplay on his stream because capcuks are SEETHING at the thought of someone not liking their game
lmao max just btfo of dbfz
DBFZ is boring casual trash
BBTAG is DLC kuso
Flex is straight kuso
Soulcalibur just lmao
The current state of vappa
Here's to a new year /fgg/
Yeah I don't get that line. Maybe it'll come to have some importance.
Gonna switch to Magic or something since fighting games are dead.
Based Chadcom making trends other people follow.
vappa spammer spamming about dbfz nonstop
damn this guy is mad lol
36 of them are reused sprites
Half of those reused sprites are DLC
i'm waiting for him to end stream to post the vod time stamp. Also he said that every character is very simple, only character being different is hit, but even then he is simplier than any characters from other fighting games
I think the game is based on their webcomic isnt it?
Kukri is 2lewd, making the girls dress up
watching DBFZ streams all day
never seen 1 shenlon
ill be waiting for you to never do this
you dont have to wait for the end of the stream, just click videos and click the first video
thats because shenlon is perfectly balanced. barely anyone is going to save up 7 bars just for that.
guys how do i counter the dash move?
Now this is the main point. I wouldn't mind 20 dlc characters if they weren't mostly reuset assets. As it is, I guess I'll drop fighting games for a while since everything is looking bad.
Yeah it's a blatant tie in to the comic, which is kinda neat. It's a silly side story where Kukri has them trapped inside a mansion. Because of that, the roster is pretty much already decided though. I'd like to see some oddball choices, but I don't think the base roster will have any.
i will just to meme on scrubs
I don't even like Marvel, but whatever. If you enjoy fighting games as they are today, more power to you, user.
So how exactly do you summon sheng long after you get the balls and meter?
thats pretty much the exact same in jive though
after you blocked a jab (or any plus on block normal for that matter) you can try to jab him out of his pressure, but you will lose if his frametrap is tight enough
you can backdash which gets you out of the way of some followup buttons and grabs but loses to shit like sweep and long range stuff
you can do high risk high reward stuff like DP through his pressure or neutral jump in anticipation of a command grab
theres more stuff (v-reversal to get them off you, delayed tech to beat throw attempts) and of course lots of character and matchup dependend stuff too
so what makes any of this particularly deep?
I'm done. Only stupid niggers will play DBFZ
What the fuck, Max?
If I remember correctly, you have to do an auto combo to completion.
crouching heavy is a universal anti air. It's the only thing in the game that counters it without meter for vanish or a beam super.
There's a comic? With emergency light hats and oversized glasses and everything?
L auto combo with 7 meters
I expect it to be a testing ground for 3D models for other games, like Sam Sho and Metal Slug
And I bet one of the new DLC characters for 14 are also in SNKHTTF
Cool so DBFZ will be /fgg/ game
And i thought marvel was lazy
after you blocked a jab (or any plus on block normal for that matter) you can try to jab him out of his pressure, but you will lose if his frametrap is tight enough
not that guy but tekken has a crush system in that some moves will always avoid either lows or highs (or both sometimes) so even if you press a button at frame disadvantage and the other guy also presses a button it doesn't mean that they'll always win
and backdashing in sfv is a hard read on a grab or something really slow or it's suicide while in tekken backdashes are almost always safe unless you do them at -9
Haphazard Odyssey is the comic. There's no dress up component to the comic, it's just goofy character interactions with the KoF girls.
Honestly I think it's more for the customization and tagging stuff than it is for any of the models. The engine appears to have been upgraded from XIV but it's not a huge update, they've got some nicer shading going on with the models but it's still got weird lighting. Being able to keep 4 characters in memory at the same time though and be able to switch out to them on the fly with zero loading however, that's a HUGE improvement from KoFXIV. Also the customization thing has a lot of rigging and model work so it's probably good practice for that. If I had to imagine, they're learning how to make the engine more robust to be able to do more things with it.
thiis dude played some of the highest level dbfz last beta. right now hes playing adult gohan as point and doing some interesting stuff, like using his unleash potential very often and at the beginning of rounds
The problem here is that jab loses to tickthrow and frametrap which are the only 2 real options you use because throws are ridiculously strong and there are a ton of plus buttons in SFV.
Blocking a +1 jab is way way way more common situation in Tekken than it is in SFV.
inb4 STINK Heroines pulls the exact same shit as BBCTB
Also jabs are so slow that you can actually recognize one and make an informed decision on what to do after blocking one.
Good luck making a decision during a cancelable 3f jab.
I wasn't hype for adult gohan at first but now I wish they just skipped teen Gohan
Fast fall seems extremely strong
GODhan is the strongest character in DBFZ
Not him and not a DBFZ hater, but he really said that at the end of the stream before he wrapped it up.
this is the first stream ive seen tonight where the game has looked legit.
yeah it turns out the other people streaming are just bad
the game is going to look A LOT better when people start utilizing assists effectively, which will take time to practice and to discover. high level dbz is going to be dope as fuck. its like comparing high level sfv vs silver scrubs
I can't tell what Gohan levels do
Like yeah I get that it makes his moves better but I don't even know what the normal version is so it's hard to tell the differences
tekken has a crush system in that some moves will always avoid either lows or highs
both exist in jive too
many slide moves go below projectiles and cant get hit by many standing attacks, and many airborne moves go over low hitting moves (particularly kicks) without getting hit
jab loses to tickthrow and frametrap which are the only 2 real options you use
actual tick throw requires you to be at absolute point blank or the throw wont connect
its much more common after a blocked light to do a small walk forward into throw, which will lose against reversal jab every time
it upgrades a lot of different things. like his over head it goes from slow -> faster -> full screen instant overhead teleport at max level
I'm not playing the beta right now so I don't know about their effectiveness, but auto-combos would be fine ONLY if they aren't rewarding.
Main reason I didn't like watching SFxTK high level play was because characters had some fun combos but you wouldn't see those at that level, just magic series into Tag switch. Especially the Tekken cast had really fun combos and gameplay ideas (Jin's fireballs, Steve and Hwo's stances etc.), those elements just never happened to really have a play at the game's highest performance.
in sfv that's just hitboxes avoiding each other, tekken's crushes are completely invulnerable to certain attacks past a certain frame