Why does the guy on the left earn less than the guy on the right?

Why does the guy on the left earn less than the guy on the right?

because any able bodies human can do what he does and not anyone can do what the other guy does.

In Australia he would likely be making twice as much

The majority of middle aged white collar workers here probably make 90k a year or so while lots of entry level tradies make twice that

No they fucking can't? I'd like to see you build a house

guy on right sucked off his pledgemaster in college.

guy on the right learned you that by "managing" you earn twice as much money for half as much work.

Because the guy on the right tells him unions are an evil communist plot while calling him racist when he complains about millions of Mexicans undercutting his wages.

And how is that fair? It isn't

And that's why we need an alternative, Marx provided us one

Because someone is willing to pay the guy on the right twice as much for what he can do.

>Marx
>not Kropotkin

Kys

Ok, give me the same amount of training as him and I will. When you slack off and end up in a shitty job then you just got what you deserved.

Everybody just killing themselves is also an alternative.

Not everyone doing a minimum wage job ended there because of their own fault

And not everyone earning a shitton achieved that because of hard work

Actually, the most important factor is luck and circumstances

And I would agree with providing everyone with equal opportunity to achieve their goals but that doesn't mean you should get the same reward for completing completely different types of work, one requiring far more specialization and skill.

>Actually, the most important factor is luck and circumstances

Prove it.

The guy on the right is supposed to be who? Lawyer? Corporate CEO? Any faggot can put on a suit.

Burden of proof is actually on you

Because, in spite of America having been known for embracing "the little guy", we've experienced a total shift in those values:

Today we often see a general disdain for the working class, and an admiration for the college educated classes. We see that today with everybody and their brother attending college these days because we all want to be the guy on the right. The thing is we can't all be the guy on the right. Having a low regard for those that work with their hands, keeps wages low, in spite of it being physically tougher and still often mentally demanding.

I've read this problem doesn't really exist in other countries where trade schools are more common and less "shameful" to attend.

Tell me why life has to be fair.

Do you humanities cucks actually believe that constructors or miners are on minimum wage? They very likely earn more money than you. Talk about being detached from reality.

You would want life to be fair if you were in a bad position

why doesn't the guy on the left save up his money so he can go to school and end up being the guy on the right.

>going to school in your 40s
he will be bullied you know

Because he's less intelligent

>he will be bullied you know
no he won't

t. college student with middle aged classmates

Because everyone who is not a paraplegic can hammer a nail, or at most learn how te jam in a set of nails. Not everyone wants to go to the tedious years of learning boring shit like law, and not everyone is capable either. It deserves to be rewarded based on the sense of investment put in - I studied medicine for six years and am not even finished yet, and I learned how to weld in a month during this summer. Academic competence and ability to master a trade are vastly different, and only the lowest of plebs deny this.

Same thing could be said about the man on the right.

Why does the guy on the left earn more than the guy on the right?

Depends what the guy on the right does.

I wear a suit and tie to work sometimes and I work in a call centre for minimum wage like a Pajeet.

Construction work is a skill. Especially for tradies like that guy appears to be.

It's not just mindlessly picking things up and putting them back down somewhere else.

kek where? The only places where laborers and trades guys make a "good" living are in major cities with unions that have the city by the balls.

What are you talking about? Skilled tradesmen tend to earn more than white collar workers. At least, they do here in Australia.

>he isn't NEET

>be american
>be working class
>be anti union
kek

>Australia
Australia isn't exactly typical.

Hence why all the tradies from here in Ireland fuck off over there at first opportunity.

>we've experienced a total shift in those values

Did we? When in history did we valued manual labourers over inteligentsia?

Starting salary for a coal miner in WV is 60k.

>teenagers are going to bully a 40 year old guy

Lel

>a guy refusing to massively improve his life, based on what other people might think of him

Double lel

When intellectuals took over socialist movements.

>teenagers are going to bully a 40 year old guy
Teenagers are cruel.

Not if you're a skilled laborer. Most journeyman tradesman make between 30 and 40 dollars an hour. Specialized people like crane operators usually make six figures. Even flaggers (the people who hold signs telling when to stop during construction) usually make at least 20 dollars an hours. Those figures might vary somewhat in different parts of the country, but skilled work always pays a decent living wage. The only people who get paid shit are unskilled laborers, or people who bought into the "unions are bad" mentality and work for shitty employers who they let treat them like crap.

That's a pro union post us ya dingus

In the cities they just hire illegals who do it for cash, do it for ALOT less than union workers, and build it up quicker. Whereas unionized construction companies take their sweet fucking time (a unionized worker taking a whole day to paint two doors is not unheard of), cost ludicrous amounts of money and are can just be straight up cancerous to work with.
On the other hand they care about workers, pay well, and offer great benefits to their workers as opposed to the companies that hire illegals. So it sort of balances out

Like I said, detached from reality.

I think he was commenting on the American working class being retarded and believing in trickle down and the job creators meme.

American working class was smart enough not to vote for a woman who wanted their jobs shipped abroad.

>Specialized people like crane operators usually make six figures.
I'm pretty sure it's quite literally impossible to be a crane operator in the US without being in a union. Elevator guys too.

But it's something you can do anywhere, and the pay is consistent. user I responded to said the only places skilled laborers can making a livable wage is in major cities, and that's false.

I have kids, so that's not an option.

They were also dumb enough to vote for a guy that supports right to work.

No, they voted for a businessman who has a record of trying to skip out on paying his workers, treating his employees like shit, hiring illegals, and has lived his entire life in a world that values profit above all else.

Thinking Donald Trump is going to do anything for labor in the US is beyond stupid. He comes from the same generation and environment as the same people that shipped those jobs abroad in the first place, and has lived according to the same principles that let them do it.

You do know that construction requires more that just knowing how to use a hammer
And taking to account the on on the right works 10 or 12 Hours a day and the one on the left works some 8 it all evens out

If you have kids you're in a better position than anyone to be a NEET.

Parents on welfare, especially parents with multiple kids, can be supported relatively comfortably for life. At least here in the UK

Who says he does? Guy on the left could be making $500,000 running his own building company, and the guy on the right could be completely and utterly bankrupt.

Funnily enough the Democrats are the same Democrats as in the 1850s, they want to keep their slaves around to reduce labor costs. It's not even a racial thing for them, it's purely economics, the fucking lengths they will go to defend illegal immigration are comical.

Depends. Friends of mine + me uncle went to school in their mid 20', 30's. You get kinda separated from the rest but bullying is an overstatement. Same with the army (i am 27 and most were 18) etc etc. Having conmon sense will save you in many situations :)

So since the socialist movement begun its existence?

I don't live in a nanny state. Besides, how much welfare can a NEET get? Must be a fucking pittance.

>Democrats are the same Democrats as in the 1850s
LBJ would like a word with you.

NEETs don't get much.

Parent NEETs get a shitload. Mostly in the form of automatic free housing and generous (to say the least) assistance with finances aside from the obvious NEETbux.

Pretty sure he endorsed Hillary yeah.

Depends on how manu kinda of wealfare are you on
Were i live wealfare is criminaly low bu t we are also one of the poorest States in the western world

Auto-correct is so fun

Poortugal?

>Whereas unionized construction companies take their sweet fucking time (a unionized worker taking a whole day to paint two doors is not unheard of), cost ludicrous amounts of money and are can just be straight up cancerous to work with.
I hate this meme. Union guys work slow and steady but chew people out for being a lazy pos. Non union Messicans work at the speed of the light when the boss is around but when his back is turned conspire to work slower and "juice" a job for hours.

Both usually take a lot of pride in their work and try to do a good job.

t. worked both

this applies for ausfags as well

in some european countries you can live independently off it, just be prepared to live pretty frugally, though it is possible to survive without working a day in your life.

so u b sayin' all I have to do is get a girl pregnant?

It has to be consensual

Yeah.

It's not uncommon for people to have babies just for the bennies in countries like this.

in australia it's called the baby bonus, getting paid to reproduce

Indeed
Poor but happy

are you NEET?

>fair

>getting paid to perform a basic human function
Where did humaninity go so wrong

Why does the cuckold on the left not defend his property, but instead defends the property of his master on the right, when the only thing the man on the right can offer in exchange is slips of paper, which only hold value because the man on the left believes them to have value in exchange for the property which was initially his own?

he doesn't, the guy on the left is a unionized elevator repairman while the guy on the right is a realtor

talk some sense

No im 20 i hope i wont be NEET for a while
Plus here in the land of the cod we dont exacly have NEET per say its more a couple a mediocre social benifits like that state paying for your kids school meals and books but not mutch more then that

Because the majority of people represented by the left of OP's pic simply want to be subordinate to others. As you rightly point out they hold the power to overturn the system, they just reject this power either consciously or by being ignorant of it.

Being college educated and being a marketing drone or something along those lines isn't exactly qualification to be intelligentsia.

probably because the cuckold has a senpai that he is trying to feed and is happy to have some work

because someone wants to pay the guy on the right more?

Namely the guy on the right himself?

Proles are ignorant of their power, but it's not their fault. The world order indoctrinates people to think that the current world order is the only one that can possibly be

Don't forget my senpai's son.

he is accountable to investors and advisory boards who may veto his salary.

I know their ignorance isn't their fault.

What is their fault I'm saying is that proles, like the majority of people, actively seek subservience. This isn't just for economics, but really everything. People all too eagerly forsake their own selves.

...

But he is the shareholder.

this is what heaven truly looks like plebs
lol

Not even trying to be edgy but I think that's why trump won. People don't want to think critically to help themselevs, they want to trust in someone else to do everything for them

this is why any president wins dolt

Then he makes enough people happy by selling them what they want to pay himself his enormous salary.

This thread is pretty euphoric

>trades inside
>pumps and dumps
heh

That's why any form of government designed to empower the people will eventually degenerate into tyranny. At this point worldwide democracy is little more than naked demagoguery.

Naturally, hence why universal democracy is a farce.

Don't try and shame, please and thanks.

Shame is a very nasty emotion.

I will shame thank-you

Mr Rosenwitz,

I'm Proletariat.

Why does rights employer pay more than lefts?