/civ4xg/ - Endless, Stellaris, Civilization, and 4X General

I have +115% attraction to my government ethics, why the hell Egalitarians still has 6-10% attraction in my empire

Pacifist doesn't mean peaceful. It just means they won't attack first.

>not actively conquering everyone means not fighting at all, and not beng pacifist means to purge the whole galaxy, only extreme points of view exist, anything in the middle is dumb
hey wiz, fix your fucking game you turbodlc jew

thats what I said, or you wanted to reply to the guy above?
the universal attraction gets weaker the further away you are from your capital and the closer you're to another empire border, use planetary edicts

Pacifism doesn't mean that you refuse to defend yourself. Pacifists like the Ikko Ikki in Japan were more than willing to go to war when they were threatened

im stuck on an old laptop, is endless space worth playing?

>Ikko Ikki
>pacifists
Okay my knowledge comes from Shogun 2 so it's probably not much but WHAT?

1 or 2?
the general consensus is that 1 is pretty mediocre with a terrible battle system and the system sieges take forever

It's early access, so I don't know. I do hope the final mission involves turning into giant insects and eating people, but the game seems to be intended to be realistic.
But I can dream youtube.com/watch?v=CFbq86AAOp0

>1 is pretty mediocre
No, it's bad. Not worth playing.
2 is pretty decent, but the AI is way too passive and I feel like there isn't enough variety between different games.

A platypus with -16 opinion of me just gave me 2500 Minerals and Credits.

We've been friends for a while, but he hates a guy in my federation. I kind of want to kick out the guy he hates somehow. He'd probly join me.

Am I gonna have to yesmen my way out because Stellaris can't handle diplomacy?

>favorite faction to write is horatio
good taste
the endless day hero looks pretty fucking sick this year, can't wait to get my hands on the webm of him

why would it work any other way? don't tell me you also expect to kick the guy without him (and any other federation memeber that liked him) hating you for it

okey, i guess nothing else out there for me, right?

I love the Spockboy

For the user asking about portrait mods for DW, there's one for humans in the paste.
There are several more on the matrix forum, but they're more like total conversions than just nicer portraits.

>That archivist
HOT
AS
FUCK

>total conversions
Are they really?
Last time I looked at DW modding, it was strictly confined to graphics.

Endless Legend is good, assuming your craptop can run it.

Did they make the Shroud RNG worse?
I swear it's a lot harder to get the unique techs and pacts than before.

they were kinda. Their spiritual leader Rennyo encouraged pacifism whilst building fortifications and an army to protect themselves. But, the peasants who rebelled never seemed to give ashit about pacifism. I was grasping for a group of people who believed 'If you want peace, prepare for war' but were still pacifists

No, I don't care that he'd hate me. I just want to subvert him and kick him out.

you need technological ascention. it's a 5 ascention perk investment

>you will never live in a comfy cabin on an Aurigan tundra

not technological ascention you know what i mean, the 2 fuckin perks to do robot shit after 3 ascention perks and that require the droid research

so by default you're investing a few hours (5 ascention perks worth of unity) into a game before even starting at what you want

just take your big hot steamy doomstack out and show him who's the boss

>tfw already 17/01/2018
>tfw still no sign of C# Aurora

Just end my pain senpai...

you'd be making enemies, either fix your relationship or spam insult

also the rest of your federation is going to vote no because ecksdee

pic related is the last surviving pop (1 pop) of a fallen empire which, despite waging war 8 times on everyone, was somehow immune to any real repercussions, and which my federation refused to grant a clean death, even with the reward of a ring world.
federations are massive handicaps and immersion cockblocks, you make them out of desperation or to instantly achieve the federation win condition in a stagnated late game

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Maximum comfy.

man the 96 dev diary is just stupid
>oh you manged your resources better and ended with a bigger fleet
>boohoo too unfair

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>You will never have a nice chat with Spock in a snug cabin on Auriga
Might as well off myself right now.

>4xg starts to post /comfy/

Niice.

Repair Cybrex Ringworld Section or build a bigger fleet? Just smashed my neighbor, so I'm not in danger right now. Feel like I should focus on settling things. Could also settle nearby worlds.

Rebuild the ringworld section.

I want to fuck wiz till he stops having bad ideas

I want to spank Wiz.

i want to wiz on wiz

Thanks user.

>tfw real time automated Aurora screensaver with only colonies and civilian shipping never.

This is certainly necessary to make Megastructures more valuable.

Perhaps not the Infinity+ Resources, but they certainly need to be rarer, harder to repair and much more useful

>allayi and drakken in the same place
>not murdering eachother
impossible

You can still have a big fleet, just split into different portions, which sounds more interesting to me.

you should upgrade your subscription

All those coastal cities to the right are going to be suffering for a long time.

So forever?

>not using meme populi

if I have to

>tfw capitalism simulator on the A4X engine never
>you will never manage a stellar east india company, shipping goods too and fro around the various colonies to make oodles of money

>graduate from Admiralty Academy at the promising age of 36
>fight a losing war at two fronts against technologically superior foes for more than a decade
>gain your 6th star forged by the fires of war in your 5th year of service
>lead the nation to a victory against the first and force the second to a bloody stalemate
>cleanse 3 planets
>liberate 4
>undefeated and unrouted for dozens of battles
>completely obliterate 3 different major enemy fleets
>found egalitarian party

I guess noone is perfect

>egalitarian is somehow bad

oh fuck off

Do you want skilled leaders not doing their jobs every 10-20 years?

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I might switch to Oligarchy for the Citizen Service civic, but not before I get the +1 civic tech

Not that guy, but what does this mod do?

wot

civ-5-cbp.wikia.com/wiki/Civ5_CBP_Wikia
scroll down to "What is it? What is included?"

Better not fuck with them, they mastered cloaks.

Oh hey, they added a thing where if a empire colonizes too close to another people communicate, like in that one trailer.

I hope when NPCs do this we get the chance of telling them no too.

there is nothing there
2 regular empires to each side and the centre of the fucking galaxy above

Sorry I should have looked it up myself. But thanks user.

AW SHIT DUDE, THEY LIVE IN THE CENTRE OF THE GALAXY

>being so much of a cuck that you cant get proper people elected everytime

kys

When are they going to release all the Free Weekend content for Endless Space 2? I don't want to sign up for G2G it's been a month since you released it in beta just do the regular update already reeeeeeeeeeee

Maybe they're waiting for endless day to release it.

>elections
>just popularity contest where actual leadership and authority stopped being relevant a long time ago
>where you get votes only by being either a populist/socialist cuck, a politcal correct idiot that never voices what he really thinks, or an edgy faggot, and all 3 of them do it for personal monetary gain
migh as well turn elections into a tv reality at this point, there is a reason democracy is a decadent system

just sign up for g2g you donut it takes like 5 minutes and you can shitpost the devs

>there is a reason democracy is a decadent system

Yes im sure that unelected dictator that rules with force or someone rulling over you by the virtue of being born in a "right family" is much better than this decadent system that is the rule of law and consent of the people.

Fuck off you tryhard edgelord.

it's already up, you have to make a G2G account to claim it

You make it sound like anyone can be elected
>democracy
>a person groomed since his teens to be likable to a bunch of half-illiterate retards
>oligarchy/ dictatorship
>a person groomed since his teens to rule effectively half-illiterate retards

>>oligarchy/ dictatorship
>>a person groomed since his teens to rule effectively half-illiterate retards

I love that naivete that authoritarian/monarchist fags have about "muh efficient authoritarian rulers because masses are dumb" and that every authoritarian ruler is somehow a semi-divine being incapable of screwing up, being a massive raging cunt, fucked in the head or have any other normal human weakness.
Worked soooo well in history, just look at the list of deranged Roman Emperors, medieval kings or other authoritarian rulers and the countless stream of atrocities, wars and misery they brought on common people.

that person can grow to care about it
in elections you need a guy that fucking cares about governing and make a cold decision if he needs to, and not just passing to history as a nice guy by making as little people as possible angry
and then you need to get him actually elected

>that person can grow to care about it

Or, as history shown us - its more likely that it will grow into a spoiled cunt who views fellow human beings as a property, pawns on a chessboard and is perfectly content with killing them en masse to preserve his well being or power.

>Monarchy is bad guise
>which is why it lasted until XXth century, give or take
>also people appealing to the lowest common denominator and who are openly bought by corporations are good

Eh, making the wrong choices is better than doing nothing because you are afraid of the political cost and how might affect your re-election
>looking at you global financial crisis

>Or, as history shown us - its more likely that it will grow into a spoiled cunt who views fellow human beings as a property, pawns on a chessboard and is perfectly content with killing them en masse to preserve his well being or power.
sound like most president to me, they just make you believe you have more choices now

>>Monarchy is bad guise
>>which is why it lasted until XXth century, give or take

In representative function only.
And curiously enough abolishment of monarchies/relegation to ceremonial duties only marks the begining of longest peace period in the history of mankind ( or at least Western world ).

Yes but those bad decisions/no decisions at all in democracies fall under public scrutiny and will be judged by the next elections.
In authoritarian regimes no matter what your overlord does - you cant dispute that, you cant change him and if you dare to object you can get killed or imprisoned.

Thats bullshit and not even you believe that.

EL
>putting all your pops on the last couple of turns to produce influence for an Empire plan
>Auriga hits you with the malus to influence event and fucks it up
>just finished building my first navy
>Auriga spawns Kraken on top of it
>send garrison to blitz an enemy, leaving my capitol vulnerable
>Auriga spawns a Guardian that beelines for my city, have to call off the offensive
>send garrison (again) to blitz an enemy, leaving my capitol vulnerable
>Auriga triggers the hateplague event, rapes my villages
>start buying up strategics to produce an elite doomsquad that I can send out while having a garrison at home
>Auriga starts the event that doubles the price of Strategic resource costs
>beat all odds, try to go for Science victory for variety's sake, boost science production to max
>Auriga pulls a pic related
mad does not even begin to describe it BITCH I'M BRINGING THE ETERNAL END TO YOUR WHORE ASS!

First time playing as Cultists and I have to admit they are super comfy and my new favorite faction, I can't imagine all this bullshit with any other faction.

Although I have many strong authoritarian ideals, I won't support authoritarianism because no person should have that kind of power.

Even if they are an absolute saint, it just takes one incredibly bad day to have them adopt a more selfish way of ruling.

It's like communism, it can work, if humans weren't terrible. Ants are basically communists and it works for them but they are simple minded that don't allow their desires to control their lives.

>monarchy is like communism
b8

Absence of action is judged too late, eg when the economy is already in full collapse

>Is that convincing
>That's as convincing as your tech blurb tree
Haha, glorious! I'm happy to see that they acknowledge their weak points. While Endless lore is pretty good in most aspects, its tech blurb is way below that of SMAC.

>I won't support authoritarianism because no person should have that kind of power.

Yes and that is why democracy with indepedent judical system, non politicised army/police force and independent media is the best system.

>rulling family = Party
>King = Dear Leader/First Secretary
>muh blue blood = "right class" that gets you various bonuses

Its not really that different, just a different type of shitty system where someone born in a right family/place gets more power over you just because of that.

But it is judged. Thing that doesnt happen in authoritarian regimes without full on revolution that often hurts shitload of innocent people.

I kind of wish you would go back to complaining about me posting with a tripcode.

Anyways I managed to get into a discussion with Aspec, and I've asked him why bombers over fighters(as well as other questions) but he never responds specifically to the bombers one.

Why is bombers considered superior? Yeah they skip shields, but bombers vs fighters and the fighters destroy the bombers and unless the shields remain up when the target dies, theres no point in skipping them if they'll be brought down anyways.

Also I feel like point defense turrets > flak artillery

Why? Aren't they both Auriga's good boys?

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Allayi hate all Endless because of what they did to Auriga, while Drakken worship Virtuals.

the drakken are the endless' good boys - they were uplifted and taught by the endless to corral and guide all the other species on auriga to adhere to the endless' will, and to fight off the allayi
the allayi are the first sentient spawn of auriga, who act as its stewards. they fought geurilla wars alongside the guardians against the endless in a feeble attempt to prevent the subjugation of their planet as a research laboratory.
both species have the best intentions (though one is far more likely to shank you than the other), but they are both opposed to eachother by design

it all boils down to "lowest common denominator" vs "somebody born to rule should be good, right"?.
tfw it's all for naught because Auriga is dying