Hey guys, just working on a tierlist. Just thought i'd post it to see what you guys think before finishing...

In terms of raw numbers sure, but they did commit genocide.

gonna remove text till I get a final version

napoleon was a nice guy

>rational and psychopath are diametrically opposed

psychopaths are hyper-rational, user

I agree. Psychopath should be replaced by mad man or something

>Mao "Four Pests" Zedong is rational

Nearly everybody from before the 1800's is in the bottom right

I'll maybe move him later

i'd slide bush down a little on the y axis and more al-asad decisively onto the psychopath side. it's a Veeky Forums meme magic thing to say he isn't.

>diametrically
>opposite ends of one of two metrics

Hitler was a very pleasant person to those around him, including subordinates and just ordinary Germans. Robespierre, however was a gigantic asshole who thought that terror and ethics were inextricably linked.

Pic related should be full psychopath, slight asshole

What genocide did Dubya attempt? Was Katrina an inside job?

Remove the genocide part, replace the psychopath/rational axis with Dionysian/Apollonian, and that would actually make a pretty decent chart.

>Henry V

Literally what.

I need help deciding where to place Reagan.

Also, yes LBJ is listed as more feelsy than fucking robespiere. I am going to remake this chart with less clinging to the axises so I have more room.

Started a war for power and executed thousands of POWS.

shock and awe

why remove genocide part? Maybe if the chart gets bigger and more ideological in the future.

>deny climate change
>accidentally a hurrican
Literally no different from Stalin and famine

Ehhh, LBJ should probably be listed as nicer than everybody here.

You forgot someone.

Also check meme list, if you missed someone.

Henry killing POWs isn't realy equivalent to genocide, especially when it was done in response to the French killing noncombatants.

Why is Hitler on the list?

Tito had caused the death of less than 140000 people, there is no to be on that list, he also reforged six former colonies into a great power with a stabilizing role in geopolitics via the Non-Aligned movement, how does that make him an asshole?

What is with Veeky Forums using such loose standards for genocide recently? Like if someone in power kills somebody its a genocide to you people.
Is this an alt-right plot to make genocide seem commonplace to therefore make the acts of prior facism look less disgusting? Or is this just your run of the mill stupidity?

Either way, stop.

Hi tankies. There are thousands of solid leaders with less than 50 unneccasary civilian kills.

>Pinochet
>rational

Guy was actually dumb as a rock

Why can't a psychopath be rational you fucking nitwit?

That's also wrong you fucking faggot.

>fascism
National socialism*

Genocide is killing any large number of people, SUPPOSEDLY enemy combatants don't count.

Just because the word is stigmatized doesn't mean all perps are instantly satan, although i'd like to get source on the French first offenses since my knowledge of that war is questionable.

>140000 people
>not a lot
He also deported the Italians that had inhabited Istria and Dalmatia for centuries.

Yeah, I know. But you know that doesnt mean that >50 kills = genocide. Thats not the definition of the fucking word and you guys are deliberately misusing it. Not every battle between to people or two groups is a genocide when one loses.

And stop using the term "tankie" its not going to catch on, despite you taking every opportunity to post it in every thread. I have made no allusions to communism or supported it in any way. This is legit why everyone hates you guys. You trample on facts, then when someone calls you out you just yell "THEY ARE A COMMIE NOTHING THEY SAY IS TRUE."

>Stalin
>rational
nice meme

Thats just being more specific, You cant seriously be arguing that Nazis arent fascists.

Why not simply say "humans" instead? That's just being more vague. You can't argue that Nazis aren't humans.

"That fish has scales"
"Fish, I think you mean Trout."
"Thats just being more specific. You cant seriously be arguing that Trout arent fish?"
"Why not simply just say animal instead? Thats just being more vague. You cant argue that fish arent animals"

Thats what you sound like right now. Yeah I could say humans, but I chose to say fascists because I wanted to bring to mind the most famous genocide of the last century. One that was conducted under a fascist ideology known as Nazism. If communism has to answer for stalin, the fascism has to answer for hitler. Its not a difficult concept.

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dat crop

But you didn't say "that fascist had a genocide", you said "fascism is genocidal". The first would imply that that fascist in particular genocided (or that fish in particular has scales) and the second implies that fascism as a whole genocides (or that all fish have scales).

>Stalin
>Rational
Stalin was a paranoid nutcase who died because he was sick and his workers feared they would be taken care of if they disturbed him. Not at all logical.

I said "the acts of prior fascism" obviously alluding to nazis. The qualifier of "prior" also insinuates that not all fascism is genocidal. Despite how you may have interpreted it with your mongoloid brain I never said "All fascists are genocidal" and I never claimed that "fascism is genocidal" although obviously it has the capacity to get there. I simply pointed out that fascists have commited genocide in the past, real genocide, not "killed more than 50 people." I did this in an attempt to get more serious about the use of the term when you jumped in and sperged out about how I may have insinuated that all fascists were genocidal.

>it has the capacity to get there
Like every other ideology.

>fascists have commited genocide in the past, real genocide
And so has capitalism and communism.

What's the point of singling out fascism?

> Like every other ideology
Because quakers, libertarians, and hippies can do that w/o direcly contradicting their ideology...ok

> And so has capitalism and communism
Sources or examples pls

absolute mad man

mr bean?