Communism

Why aren't a communist yet Veeky Forums?
It's the most humane and efficient system. No bourgeois allowed!

>inb4 MUH HUMAN NATURE

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i liek communism, but I like my liberal republican rights and all that.
can communism and human rights be reconciliated?

Human nature is inherently cooperative. It's modern conditioning a la pic related that's gotten people to belive otherwise.

Because all class struggle is one between cucks and bulls. The dominant class doesn't push its way to the top in order to stamp down on the lower class, the lower class pushes the upper class to the top in order to have someone stamp down on it.

Remove the bourgeois and the proletariat will create a new one.

Capitalism is the most humane form of human evolution. Prove me wrong.
>TipProCan'tYou

hasn't been tried

You know where you should go back to?

Now git out.

Nice refutation, jackass. Oh wait, there wasn't one, which is typical of Marxist shitheads.

Despotic sovereign executive power is created the overwhelming majority of the time by the bottom rung of whatever society is creating it. From the time of the Populares to the Russian revolution, you find that people don't take power, they're given it, "To get things done". And then of course, those people don't relinquish power.

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It is the future comrade.

>why don't you want to be a looser like me?

t. butthurt fascist that is still mad he lost ww2

When a hypothetical idea fails in practical application time and time again you're supposed to reassess your idea.

U go grrrrrrrrl

why does marxists think their system is incorruptable compared to capitalist systems

Get out off my fucking board you commies

t. federalist

Get the fuck off my state rights.

t. Confederate

How do you determine the value of a product?

Because it's based on Darwinism.

Since Darwinism is wrong, Communism is wrong aswell.

It's a godless political ideology that, most importantly: DOESN'T WORK.

Fuck off traitor, the people shall be sovereign.

t. Union

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>sovereign
Explain.

Remember when that socialist country that became very great? Yeah me neither.

I hate parties.

Your children are safest when everyone is equal.

The problem socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

>PLEASE GIVE ME FREE SHIT!
OP, we know you're a gibsmedat stupid millenial, but this is not how the real world works.

USSR.
It was fucking first world power during 21st century. You fucking retard.
Probably the most powerful country in the 50s. Literacy went from 10% in 1910 to 95% in 50s.
But enjoy your american education faggot and just 'le venezualala' argument. It was a shitty country no matter if there were liberals in charge or communists.

Idk I just found that political cartoon bretty cool.

Oh, in capitalism you never run out of money.

>Free market
>Some are rich, some poor, most are fine

>Socialism
>Everyone is poor

do you will post some actual evidence of your bullshit or will you just keep posting some infographics from biased facebook pages?

I'll direct you Stalin's Purge, Brezhnev's stagnation, and OH WAIT THE SOVIET UNION FELL IN 3 YEARS AFTER GREATER FREE SPEECH WAS ALLOWED.

People were starving and forming bread lines.

Work hard? Tough luck. The state comes and takes your labour and money.

Disagree? You become missing.

Union was a piece of shit.

Sidenote: know any good books about Hamilton's political views?

I don't think a stateless, classless post industrial society is likely. Or likely to persist.

I don't think that a secular ideology about fairness is a solid enough cultural basis upon which to build such a society (ergo the large application of force necessary to get most socialist states off the ground).

Seems like a mythical wast of time, an ideological red herring, a carrot on a stick but the carrot isnt even it real, it is a crudely drawn picture of one.

Why waste my time? I can dislike capitalism without pretentiously associating myself with a movement that has been irrelevant for 80 years like some fucking LARPer.

>It'll eventually work, trust me!

t. butthurt anarkiddie that has lost every conflict ever

Let's play a game.

If you go to make anti-Communism/Socialism post, name your ideology so we can take count.

t. captialist

>union was a piece of shit
Well its 50 state successor is the one ruling us now so you have no right to complain, Mr. CSA

Also on your note, I have recently looked into his political views and I have indeed managed to find a book that would outline this. jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/content/political-philosophy-alexander-hamilton

Literally just looked up Alexander Hamilton political views on Google and I automatically got a book about it. Isn't that insane?

You have to go back

Capitalism is better.

>You have something I like
>I have something you like
>Let's trade and create commerce!
>Incentive to be innovative and build yourself up
>Country flourishes

Communism:
>Give everything you have to the government
>starve

Atheistic states have caused so much death and destruction.

>natzees
>not religious
The middle east is a hodgepodge of religious states that cause plenty of human rights abuses and export their cancer.

Who did amazing atheist kill apart from brain cells?

This isn't counting the millions of murdered babies due to abortion.

Atheism says life isn't precious so it gives you an excuse to do whatever you want.

Friendly reminder that if you don't sage these threads then you are part of the problem

>Well its 50 state successor is the one ruling us now so you have no right to complain, Mr. CSA
Yeah I do, the Fed is literally stomping out state's rights and taking away sovereignty from every state. Fuck off with your, yank shit.

>Literally just looked up Alexander Hamilton political views on Google and I automatically got a book about it. Isn't that insane?

It's almost like I took the chance of the guy LARPing as Hamilton might know something about Hamilton and could maybe point me in the right direction. Turns out I got an asshole LARPing to be Hamilton instead who just finds the first works and says 'dis 1.'

I don't have a political ideology. Although I do think we ought to be ruled by a god emperor but only one who is descendant from the sun God. He can tell us when we need to sacrifice the hearts of the vanquished to satisfy the god of light and sun and keep him from destroying the world.

It isn't a perfect system but it is the best we got.

You should go back with him.

>It was fucking first world power during 21st century.
But the USSR collapsed during the 90's???????.

>most are fine

You mean most people are accumulating capital? Most people are being paid more than they were the previous year, ahead of inflation?

>Yeah I do, the Fed is literally stomping out state's rights and taking away sovereignty from every state. Fuck off with your, yank shit.

But the Fed is good, they protect and help us, you silly dixiefag.

>It's almost like I took the chance of the guy LARPing as Hamilton might know something about Hamilton and could maybe point me in the right direction. Turns out I got an asshole LARPing to be Hamilton instead who just finds the first works and says 'dis 1.'

Well fine, if you don't like my help you can suck my dick, bitch.

>But the Fed is good, they protect and help us, you silly dixiefag
Good? HA! Quit LARPing as a comedian.

Protect us? What? You really think CSA wouldn't have a standing untied army or are you talking about some other useless fucking "protection" the Fed is doing?

>Well fine, if you don't like my help you can suck my dick, bitch.
Kinda like how the Union sucks daddy government's dick?

>Good? HA! Quit LARPing as a comedian.
Protect us? What? You really think CSA wouldn't have a standing untied army or are you talking about some other useless fucking "protection" the Fed is doing?

>Kinda like how the Union sucks daddy government's dick?

Sh-shutup you fucking Dixiefag, REEEEEE

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REE harder.

I'm LITERALLY offended by this picture

I'm going to go complain to my university and tell them to ban all Confederate flags now!

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Cooperation motivated by emotions is not true cooperation. Technically your end game is to turn the other person into a jizz rag for your feels.

i swear these commie threads come in waves

seems to be on every board that means something, smells like psychological warfare

well?

>>>/leftypol/

Veeky Forums is independent from both /pol/ and leftypol and subscribes to no ideology in particular, if you disagree you're probably a foreign agent.

>Nazi germany
>Atheist

Truly, pick one.

I unironically agree with this.

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>who is Tengri

[Insert picture of third world capitalist nation here]

Communism/socialism is supposed about human rights. As long as those rights don't include inalienable property rights and the right to fuck over society.

t. cuck

>human evilution

It's like you don't understand how thesis-antithesis and synthesis work in dialectics.

You're thinking about tax-the-rich social democracy. Socialism is about earning the full product of your labor.

But this is actually false. This is actually a topic capitalist economists discuss, the money supply.

As long as it doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics, humanity finds a way, given enough time.

>redditor with folder of reddit screenshots telling people to go to reddit

Not communism.

>Communism means welfare
You didn't even bother to read wikipedia, didn't you?

>Communism
>governemnt

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>unable to defend itself from destruction
>working

Yeah, why don't you realize [COLLAPSE]

>Individualist values
>economics

thats why

venezuelan kids entering a supermarket in Peru

>marcos
>the entirety of the working class

Literally only a handful of sierra niggers, pejechairos pls go and stay go

>be communist system
>supposed to manage resources correctly
>mismanage resources
>collapse

Communism will be achievable once humanity reachs singularity and every facet of our lives can be controlled perfectly by a computer.

Until than, it will never, ever be successful simply due to the inefficiancy and wastefulness inherent in most people

>These specific things that I don't like are not human rights because I say so. Don't question my authority shitlord

Market socialism is a meme

I'm Marxian as fuck but I'm skeptical of full communism.

The state seems pretty necessary. Going totally anarchist is a dangerous risk.

>caught red handed and goes into damage control

Can someone make an argument against communism that is not a Facebook meme?

You pinkos don't deserve anything more than facebook memes. Now go back to plebbit.

Holy shit Marxists it never ends...

Ideology zombies

>Literacy went from 10% in 1910 to 95% in 50s

yeah, it will tend to do that when you kill millions of your own people, and only record the best of your test scores (a la China)

Same

Stormfront of the left.

Woah...so this is...the power of...a reddit raid?

This

Socialism as a whole is a meme.

Because it's a failed ideology only followed by sperglords?