What is the most crime infested city of all time? I'm talking real gangsta shit

What is the most crime infested city of all time? I'm talking real gangsta shit..

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Caracas according to some experts

That's right now tho

Not sue but 100% sure it's in Latin Subhumerica

Latin America isn't that bad.

Kowloon walled city was basically a giant whore house/opium den/casino/illegal noodle processing plant.

It's worse than Africa. Check their homicide rates

>Latin America isn't that bad.
literally 90% of all the threads on bestgore are from brazilian murders

Yes but they had relatively low crime rates

Does this count?

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chicago? they just passed 700 homicides for the year yesterday.

and since the 20's it been called the "City of Gangsters"

here's some shitty rap
youtube.com/watch?v=7EwcbcTlQvg

>yfw it finally gets to the part about a guy running a foundry in that one German documentary about it from the 80s

Miami was the murder capital of the world at one point and they were over a thousand homicides.
Chicago has hit near 900 before.

Alice springs

>they just passed 700 homicides for the year yesterday.

Much safer than any pre-modern city.

yeah but in 2013 Miami had just 71 homicides.

nigga... c'mon now. prove it

>prove it

Lol it's not a controversial statement.

youtube.com/watch?v=M5O6JwY0GJ8&t=109s
detriot

actually no need for experts, Caracas es otro level

>ranking cities by absolute number of homicides instead of by rate per 100k

Fucking humanities faggots I swear

>on the history board
>not willing to back up statement with info
pussy

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nowadays is San Pedro Sula, Honduras
however Caracas, Guatemala, Rio and some colombian and mexican cities offer competition

Just Google "medieval murder rate" you silly faggot.

>find article says 1340's England had a murder rate of 110 per 100,000 people.
>"hmm wow that's kinda high"

>find article of murder rates in American cities
>St. Louis
>660 per 100,000
>mfw

Bullshit

Current rate in St. Louis is 49 per 100,000 you fucking liar.

Probably Ciudad Juarez during a bad year.

You're talking 1,400 murders in a year in a city of 2 million people.

Medellin during the Pablo Escobar era. Murder rate was over 300 per capita, three times as much as the most violent cities in the world today, San Pedro Sula and Ciudad Juárez.
Fun fact the U.S. capital had a murder rate of 80 per 100,000 in the late eighties and early nineties, the only city to surpass that number was New Orleans at 90 per 100,000.

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>can't tell the difference between a rate and a total number

Rome is a contender

a mere village compared to any lat am metro area

The UN was talking about sending peacekeepers and shit.

Apparently there are also like half a dozen different serial killers taking advantage of the chaos to just kill a bunch of women for fun and profit, knowing that there won't be any real investigation.

That's... Little. The probability of you getting killed is miniscule.

It's awful down there.

early hong kong was an absolute crime haven, notorious hangout for tons of pirates.

>mfw I'm el salvador.
We got an armed guard out out front at least

That's nothing new really. Women being raped and murdered on their way back from working in the factories and sweatshops was mentioned in a music video in the late nineties or early oughts i think by some alternative band whose name I can't remember and it's also a subject of the plot in the movie Bordertown.

I read a book about that called 2666

America here.

Sorry about all those juntas, senpai.

Hmmm. Idk should it?

I once watched some sensationalist TV show that claimed that there were narco-satanic sects in Juarez and vampirists killing people. Seemed very far-fetched to me, but taking into account that Juarez is a fucking killzone, who knows?

>70/100,000
>7/10,000
>almost 1/1,000, the same chance you have to be born with Down syndrome from a healthy woman
>minuscule
I tell you what's minuscule, fuckhead, the chance of winning lotto. 1/55!, motherfucker, that is, 1/55*54*53*...*3*2*1.

Jerusalem.

Have you been huffing paint? Some of the Latin countries have warzone tier homicide rates. If the cops aren't joining in on the fun for profit they need armored vehicles to survive a cruise through the slums.

Chicago is very dangerous by first world standards (and would be considered very dangerous in many of the safer 3rd world countries) but it's nothing compared to the really terrible places in the third world.

Syria has displaced Lebanon as the primary hub for the manufacture of synthetic drugs in the region since the state authorities have their hands tied with the war atm and have probably taken to the trade as well for funds along with all other belligerents. There's also the the trafficking of weapons, people, contraband oil, and historical artifacts.

I can't remember his name but there was a religious cult in the 80s lead by a serial killer who worked for the cartels. Had his own ranch, millions of dollars etc. Can't remember his name but shouldn't be too hard to find him

Cuck

England was dealing with the plague then. Maybe people asked to be killed rather suffer?

AYYY BRUDDA, GODDA DOLLER

Tifilis or Baku around the early 1900s.

>300 per capita
lol 300 people were killed for every person living there?

If we restrict this to first-world countries, New York before it got cleaned up in the 80s/90s was pretty surreal looking back on it.

My question would be how in the fuck would we know. Literally a medieval country full of illiterate peasants is being swept clean by a plague and we somehow know the murder rate they had?

Literally everything they did was illegal, also I doubt homicides were uncommon.

Leaving aside that the numbers are bullshit, would it really be surprising that a society in which most people lived all their lives in villages of

Examples?

A lot of large Latin American cities. I know a guy from Columbia and he said that Medellin was a fucking mess. In his words, "If you have a nice watch, a nice bike, whatever a guy may walk up and shoot you in the head and take all your shit. Or if you look rich, or American." Juarez, Mexico, is also a pretty bad one from what I hear.

In the 70s, crime was so high that shopkeepers wouldn't leave the doors unlocked even at noon. They'd buzz you in after they got a good look at you.

You also had a huge number of arsons because people who were burned out of public housing got nicer homes, and because the insured value of buildings was usually higher than the real value.

Also, it turned out that basically the entire NYPD had turned into a glorified drug cartel, as demonstrated by Frank Serpico and the Knapp Commission.

The cops there are really fucking corrupt, too.

You can thank the Mariel Boatlift and cocaine for that.

Google it my dude. NYC was third world tier. I would say he's incorrect about it being the worst city in the world, but it was easily one of the most dangerous in the US. It's amazing how safe it is today by comparison.

I don't know how they took their stats, but it would be reasonable to assume that a guy with his throat slit or skull bashed in had been murdered rather than killed by natural causes. In most places they just tally up homicides and most people point at that when they talk about "murder" rates. There are justifiable homicides, but generally speaking they are statistically insignificant in most places.

Also, my dad was in Chicago at the time the murder rates spiked. According to him, it's because the Mexican cartel came in and chomped out. He didn't say which cartel, though.

England has always had a high level of bureaucracy for their time.

They had fairly regular censuses and court systems that this sort of data gets pulled from

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*chimped out
Fucking typos.

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It's ok I blame Reagan and the CIA.

Carter didn't give a shit either.

It's odd how conservatives remember him as a dove when he enthusiastically supported Operation Condor.

There was no census in the 1300s.

That's the problem. They weren't even examining every single corpse, often they just burned a pile of bodies during plague times. We don't know who the hell had his throat slashed or whatever.

Nobody would've really wanted to examine a corpse that's said to have the Plague.

That's my point. If I murdered someone back then I'd just dump his body on that pile and nobody would give a fuck.

Assessing a murder rate in the 1340s would not even be an educated guess, it would be a total asspull.

The figures were usually taken from local courts.

It'd be a good ballpark figure, I guess.

It's... kinda recovering... kinda...

Depends on what you consider crime?
Violent crime, robberies, murders etc.
Or truly organized crime?

brazil niggers get killed all the time

>illegal noodle
explain, how can a place be so seedy even basic foodstuffs are illegal

medellin during escobar's war against the state

Whichever one has the most brownos and least money in it

Mixed-race people combine the natural aggressiveness of blacks and indigenous people with the creativity and intelligence of whites.

Was it like how bad LA (or all of California) is now?
[spoiler]I just really like to make fun of California[/spoiler]

Oh god, what have we created?

Chicago 1920-1930's. place was wide open & filled with crime & graft

Detroit has nearly as many homicides with less than half the population.

qft
also organizational and political skills
narcos are clever capitalists

Source?

>take sparsely populated country
>add Spaniards, various other European colonies, the existing native population, then add in a almost 1:1 ratio of African slaves
>gestate for 200 years and abolish slavery somewhere in the process

South America is what the US will devolve into if it doesn't get its shit together.

No nigga its not stop listening to Varg and Alex k thanks bye

the US had organized crime and city insecurity way before lat am
eventually gangsters turned to legal business and politics and lat am is going the same way

300 dead for every 100,000

Why did Caracas (and Venezuela in general) became such a crime-ridden shithole under Hugo Chávez and Nicolas Maduro?

Shouldn't socialism reduce income inequality and therefore reduce violence? Cuba isn't really violent, for example.

dunno

Guess it's a tie between whatever south-american current big city

Ancient Rome
Ancient Byzance

US of A (80's NY, chicago, LA, Atlantic city)

Large african city (lagos,...)

Chave, actually distributed guns to some parts of the population, he created the so called 'Bolivarian Revolution guard' or something, to protect his socialist takeover, hence why Venezuela is one of the most armed countries in the world. Also, it was felt that the rich had to protection anymore. Just add 1+1 and figure out how that worked with violent, poor latinos when the police earns about 20 dollars a month

>Spaniards and Portuguese
>White
>Spaniards and Portuguese
>Not naturally aggressive assholes

Venezuela: 25 year rule
Cuba: draconian law enforcement including network of neighbor vigilante commitees

Mixed race here (white+indian). Feels pretty good to be the people of the future.

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