Why does the Ottoman Empire have so little as its scientific, technological and cultural legacy?

Why does the Ottoman Empire have so little as its scientific, technological and cultural legacy?

They banned the printing press until like 1800s

But even so, Istanbul university produced some peeps. The founder of Israel for example

>kosovo
>city

They basically left all the existing governmental structures in place (especially in the areas farthest from Istanbul) so half the time their presence was hardly even notable.

>ottoman thread
>no turkposter
I miss him and his daily autistic shenanigans.

Overshadowed in those respects by its neighbors, Europe and Persia, and it actively fought the printing press within its borders.

The printing press was fought by Luddite clergy who hand wrote books and manuscripts. Funny Ottoman Empire had comparably high literacy until they banned printing press too.

In any case Ottomans have no scientific or technological legacy because it was just a block of bureaucracy ruling over lots of unwilling people who just wanted to get ahead of each other in economic sense. It worked when empire was rich because corruption was minimal and meritocracy was rewarded. When they got hit hard by silver inflation and loss of their traditional income, corruption took over and they stagnated for several reasons, they were making a comeback in 19th century but by then they were too militarily weak to compete with any of European powers so it didn't matter.

Power of Ottoman empire is overrated. Its borderlands were never controlled directly by Istambul, Turks werent majority untill 1918.

Ottomans lasted for a long time, which is impressive. They considered themselves the new Romans (Sultan al-Rüm).

Ottomans are also the last Muslim civilization/empire, after that would follow European colonialism.

because you don't live in a region formerly occupied by them?

found the s*rb

>t*rks
>bunch of fucking morons who leave no intellectual legacy

figure it out

> because you don't live in a region formerly occupied by them?

Even the British, French and German Empires had legacies and influence over lands they never occupied. How come the Ottomans' influence is practically limited over the lands they occupied then?

Ruled by insects

>Even the British, French

because they are exceptional empires whose zenith came during an era of massive globalism. The Ottomans don't seem to insignificant relative to history's other empires.

>and German Empires

wait a sec...

Honestly it makes me depressed

They were ruled by lazy bureaucrats that had a "If god wills it."sort of mindset and leaving your family profession was discouraged in Ottoman society

They seemed themselves as the sucsessors of Roman Empire, and as we all know Roman empire had very little scientific and technological legacy

I used to give him a really hard time.

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Ottoman replaced the Bynaztine empire, which is another empire that considered itself Roman empire.

What happened to him? Now that you mention it I haven't seen any of the turkposters in a while...

They were mostly just concerned with running an empire and keeping the fringe regions close.

They did some developing of infrastructure and administration but stiffled a lot of other things allowing Christians and Jews to become the economic and scientific elite.

he probably got killed by kurds after Erdy forced him into conscription

The Ottoman system largely involved leaving the "provinces" to their own devices and outsourcing tax collection. The subjects of the Empire were so heavily taxed and exploited that they had no means to innovate or move out of their traditional profession. This is just one of many reasons that they Ottomans stagnated.

Source: Why Nations Fail

The Ottomans basically were a European colonial empire.

They brought coffee into Europe and gave music the concept of meter.

they inherited the brute strength, I mean the physical manpower, from the fall of islamic civilizations, they picked up its pieces. But the special spark was gone forever, it was picked up by Europe in what is called the renaissance.

one hell of an engineering legacy though.

In terms of scientific legacy they seem very alike to Rome. Rome was a big power but didn't contribute much if anything to natural sciences (engineering is different).

Why that is probably has to do with lack of interests. There was no House of Wisdom in the Ottoman Empire. If the leaders aren't really interested, then they won't seek to transform a city into a center of culture and learning that draws many people to it so they can contemplate, debate and learn.

This was the same in the Renaissance, where Francesco I Sforza turned Milan into a major place of learning and drew intellectuals to it. Same thing happened with Venice and other cities. Of course the difference with Italian peninsula and the Ottoman empire is that the former was much more decentralized, which has its benefits.

Well they conquered lot of shit while other's were weak but then just kinda stagnated and had the attitude WE ARES KANGS. Banning out Printing press and other things and letting Rest of the west advance was kinda dumb of them.

ottoman had no powerbalance, nothing to be a risk for clergy or monarchy. So they reigned as they wish to protect their wealth and accumulate more. change came from the modern army.

clergy and monarchy had to have a modern army because otherwise they couldn't even hold their wealth, territory and etc. theirs was a dead rule. also it is the reason why turkish people love their army. (or used to love)

They were uniquely good at governing the Islamic world

Look at the train-wreck it is today post-Ottomans...

Because we can't read that Autistic arabic writing
not to mention it was considered for a very long time since the beginning of the country
That using anything related to Ottoman Ideals
was barbaric
Which it was