So I think I made mention of this but I have a friend who's making his way through the series. He started with 4 (beat it, loved it); went on to play 5 (Found the gimmicks cumbersome and gave up halfway through) and Zero (beat it on Merc, working on 100%ing it) and just ordered 6 to play later. He's also expressed interest in 3.
My concern, however, is whether 3 would be at all jarring to play by comparison, given how the the series has been codified in post-04 gameplay. Is it hard to go from the PS2 and onwards games back to the PSX-era ones?
Xavier Rogers
I never found the controls that weird for 3 when I was emulating it, you just need to bind them in a way that makes sense. No idea about how it controls using a controller though.
Austin Reed
The controls themselves aren't a concern really, but something that should be kept in mind is the physics are much, much different in 3 than in other games. The physics imparted on your plane during hard turns is much more pronounced, turns take longer, missiles are more difficult to dodge, that sort of thing. The gameplay is significantly slower, but not in the glacial sense of JA. More like the difference between tempos in music.
Xavier Rivera
Good thread edition
Christian Sullivan
The biggest difference I remember is that if you try and do braking turns like you would normally you stall at much higher speeds that you'd expect. You just stall a lot more all the time.
Jack Hill
Yeah, that's another thing, you'll stall right out at absurdly high speeds, like 400-500mph. Finger on R1 almost constantly is one of the orders of the day.
The F-5 lineage is pretty cool imo. F-5A/B were kinda crap without radar, but the F-5E was like the FAL of military aviation. Then you get the Hornet, and the Super Hornet derived from that, and the X-29 and F-20 as project derivatives too.
Jeremiah Allen
Goodnight, /aceg/. Be sure to always catch the 3-wire.
I'll check the music in a bit but that looks like a FSW Varcolac
Austin Garcia
is osea burning yet?
Nolan Rogers
I finally managed to find a decent reference for the birb's wings, so I might be able to work on it! Have a WIP of its hat in the meantime.
Mason Roberts
Needs a little metal pin badge of whatever nation's Air force logo
Matthew Green
What said.
So so on that music. Doesn't do a whole lot for me.
Ryan Davis
Well, the whole show has a very surf rock/hiphop vibe going on with the music, although it does have more conventional orchestral stuff. youtube.com/watch?v=8CgtRvaQ6_8&t=11s I recommend it because its a pretty unique mecha show. Also they blow their budget on really pretty missile sequences.
Brandon Flores
That's an excellent idea! I need an /aceg/ pin, though. I don't think I would be able to make a good one.
Michael Fisher
>cloud surfing Nice
/aceg/ with wings next to it like the standard, read best, plane related pins?
Liam Butler
Im kinda bored, i'll give it a go.
Ian Stewart
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Benjamin Brooks
>Another British Aircraft that never took off The feels
John Moore
Here's a first shot at it.
Luke Baker
>we nearly had a literal x-wing Motherfuck why
Dominic Stewart
Good morning /aceg/
Dylan Sanders
>Americans There's a 3/5 chance it's due to them.
Levi Phillips
...probably true. Gotta try make sure your allies are dependant on you
Jeremiah Lee
That's neat. Can you try the effect with the logo from a while ago?
The British government apparently has no idea about what it is doing with planes for some reason. As another example, pre-WW2 they cut all funding for Schneider racecraft and by extension all funding to the plane that would go on to help design the Spitfire and the RRR engine that provided valuable data for the Merlin's development. This was right as the UK was about to take the trophy home for good too.
Luckly a wealthy woman stepped in and gave Supermarine and Rolls Royce the money they needed.
But also this for the post war era.
Levi Gutierrez
>Emulating Star fox Zero >Star wolf appears >Fly past Star wolf >Game slows down and gives a fly by view >"COME ON!"
Explain yourselves Nintendo.
Austin Fisher
I drew a f22
Carter Moore
Sure, i'll give it a go. I knew there was one like this, I just couldnt find it on my computer - hence the new-but-similar design.
Time to save this one int he right damn place this time
Lincoln Walker
Nintendo confirmed buddies.
Cameron Anderson
>emulating SF Zero How did you deal with the gyro gimmicks? Accuracy is low as fuck from what I remember and walker mode doesn't even let you aim.
Dominic Martin
The detail and shading is pretty good, but the proportions and perspective are off. The nose looks down.
Someone mentioned it earlier. Also Corneria has Liberation of Gracemeria parts in it. Does it emulate well?
Jason King
Using a CEMU community made mod/plugin that makes the game control in a not stupid way using the sticks.
Christian Gray
yeah I was thinking about that, I haven't drawn anything for a VERY long time, and at that I don't have much experience even doing it
Christian Anderson
Emulates ok, frame drops, but most of the time its completely playable.
William Rivera
Damn, got a link? I even bore with Adventure's horrible first person aiming controls (those fucking sections where you had to fire at switches with a timer), so I'd like to try to finish the series. Reminds me of the "missiles in third person" cheat that Other M had.
Isaac Garcia
Sorry, dont have it with me right now. Posting from my phone at work.
Colton Morris
I still don't get why the fuck they "innovated" those controls.
That might make it almost fun to play
Doesn't Adventure just use NGC Zelda controls?
Did you try to draw from reference?
Aiden Russell
ya
Joshua Perry
I played TP on the Wii, never touched the N64 ports and I haven't played WW yet. I'm considering playing the Wii U instead of the GC one unless there are some reasons not to.
Luke Ward
No clue about reasons but TP and WW work pretty well on Dolphin, and WW has a hack to remove the blur. The only other thing is textures and some streamlining on the HD port like that fast sail or easier treasure chests. TP has the blur tho, but it looks pretty great other than that. I really like the designs. Death Mountain looks stupid and great. I was replaying that a bit last weekend.
General advice would be to first make a really rough sketch so you can see how it all fits on the paper. And maybe the old lines and grids I keep mentioning for advice.
Daniel Hill
>reasons Same reason that Cemu is the Zelda Emulator. The series has a huge and autistic following.
Bentley Sanchez
>the Zelda Emulator I'm too stupid to find BotW so I just got TP and WW for nostalgia instead
But what I meant is the only difference between the two versions are some quality of life things from what I remember. So yeah if you can do the WiiU one you might as well
Isaac Williams
Really nice. Good work, buddy! I'll try to make something more traditional. Hopefully, it will be good.
Sebastian Hill
Aight I did two versions, pretty much for just whichever you want on your little cap.
>original script
Aaron Hernandez
And a non-handwritten script one.
Ayden Mitchell
Really nice. Good work. Do you also have one with the text that is just my original one? I never got around to make it not handwritten.
Jordan Martin
No, but I can go in and turn off the other layers, one mo.
Jace Campbell
Here ya go. Also fixed that tiny little sliver at the bottom of the original where the green didnt fill completely.
Easton Phillips
Thanks buddy.
Asher Carter
It's a real goddamn swish design man, I love it to bits.
Landon Thomas
Originally I think I wanted a crest but at the time I didn't have too much time or maybe no patience so now it's a circle. Although at this stage we could probably fill the whole circle with planefu shapes instead of the few standins.
Jack Parker
>Although at this stage we could probably fill the whole circle with planefu shapes instead of the few standins. Bloody hell this
Luis Anderson
I can give it a go, based on the collage. But you will have to be patient because I won't get to it this weekend or next week since I'm away. Maybe next weekend
Andrew Jones
So, Wraith Squadron with a number of different planes?
And then if you really care, you change it around so your own planefu is the big one on each individual buddy's patch.
Isaac Brown
Something like that
>planefu rotates Speaking of that I had an idea with a shield like this. The plane could vary for the different Anons.
But I never know where to place the text on these and they always end up very cluttered.
Oliver Green
Yeah, they definitely can be. That said, your design there looks pretty good to me.
Ryan Young
Or full Rot
Carter Barnes
The simple one is nice, but it's hard to say no to full blown fancy.
Adam Long
an attempt was made
Jason Carter
Brilliant, buddy. What about taking and filling the outer circle with planes, too?
Jackson Cruz
Maybe smaller ones in white over the green fields, then the personal plane in green on the white?
Gabriel Reyes
Pretty cool. What about trying to fit 404th on the left like that and /aceg/ on the right?
Landon Parker
Exactly. Spot on.
Zachary Bailey
Good call, saves a lot of space/unnecessary detail. I just liked the assymmetry and got caught up in it.
Ill play with that, and the smaller-white-planes thing now.
Can I get a quick list of the things in the squadron montage so far? I cant even remeber half of them rn
Nathaniel Sanchez
I have to admit that it looks like I didn't save the last version of the collage on my phone.
Anyway off the top of my head >Flanker (27, 33 and whatever Tom waifus) >F15 (C and S/MTD) >F8 >Jaguar >XFA27 >F117 >Typhoon >Phantom >nondescript WW2 prop >Tomcat >Dark Shark >Peacemaker >Gripen >A10 >Mirage 2000 >Mirage IIIS >Harrier >Black Widow (Prop) >Berkut >VF1 >EE Lightning >X29 >F16 >Piaggio
Justin Roberts
Brilliant, thanks. I'll just do a little smattering of a couple right now to test the general look of it, then i can do the rest over the next while.
Leo Watson
I'll probably still give the round one a go when I get to it. I like that idea with Wraith Squad.
Ryder Jenkins
Well, threadly reminder to draw for the collage! Draw your planefu, put some effort into it, and we'll add it right in! Absolutely ZERO skill required. The only rules are: >it must be black and white >it must fly from left to right >you MUST have fun while drawing. It's the most important part! Feel free to ask the buddies if you need advice. There it is. >1 Su-30SM >2 Su-33 >1 Su-37 >1 ADFX-01 Morgan >1 X-02 Wyvern >1 F-15C Cipher >1 F-15C air superiority grey >1 F-15 S/MTD >1 F-8 >1 SEPECAT Jaguar >1 XFA-27 >1 XFA-36 Game >1 F-117 or so they say >1 Typhoon >2 Phantom >1 nondescript WW2 prop >1 Super Tomcat >1 XFR-2 Dark Shark >1 Peacemaker AWACS >1 Gripen >2 A-10 (a buddy traded his Flanker for this) >1 Mirage 2000 >1 Mirage IIIS >1 Harrier >1 P-61 Black Widow (Prop) >1 Berkut >1 VF-1 >1 EE Lightning >1 X-29 >1 F-16C >1 Piaggio P.7 >1 Berkut-like beauty (above the 27) I hope I didn't miss anything.
Asher Lee
>and whatever Tom waifus IT'S THE Su-30SM I REMEMBER YOUR PLANEFU, I'D APPRECIATE THE SAME COURTESY
Christopher Wright
Here's the first test with only a small set of planes on.
I basically erring towards halfish of the squad flying bottom left to top right in this field, then the other half doing the reverse in top right field - OR making all of them fit like a fucking fleet in this field. I'll pretty much just have to see how it looks when its done.
Might have to make the AWACs double scale and have it fly behind the others though
Nathan James
Oh yeah, and obviously [your planefu goes here] where the Morgan is, I just used that becuase I didnt want to play favourites and everyone loves the Morgan.
Eli Jackson
Glorious. What if we put something that absolutely and universally defines /aceg/ instead of the Morgan, though? We also need to think up a motto. What about "Nothing else comes close."?
Nicholas Miller
'Nothing Else Comes Close' is already Project Aces' motto, isn't it?
Anthony Ross
Good morning, /aceg/. We had some lovely snow last night.
I'm still a little surprised that there's no Hornet of some kind on that list. But not THAT surprised. Don't we have someone here who loves the F-16XL, too?
Levi Long
I wonder what latin for '[shitposting intensifies]'would be
Joshua Ross
Yes, but I don't have anything else in mind.
Jayden Sullivan
If we're talking latin, what about a variation of 'To the stars, despite adversity'?
>ad frontem charta, non obstante angustia "To the front page, despite adversity'
Matthew Ortiz
>six billion references downloaded Right, time to get outlining.
Shouldnt take TOO long, hopefully,
Julian Smith
Have fun, buddy!
William Rodriguez
Because it bears repeating: >Mori non patitur
Brody Allen
Much better than I could do.
Austin Perry
legancy hornets are cuter than supers ...
Julian Johnson
The proportions are a bit off and it looks somewhat bent, but the detail is excellent! Keep working on it, buddy, and you'll do wonders. Have you drawn for the collage?
Luke Lopez
>There's a bomber monster in the new MH Strange collab for Project Aces