Philosophically speaking, is sex a human right?

kissless virgin here. Prostitute just coyldnt do it for me. Doujins have corrupted my mind for too long and too thoroughly.

there are also real, natural born professionals

No, it conflicts too much with the base of human rights, that being respect for autonomy.

Consumption of air, and food (though, not necessarily procurement thereof) can be considered ethical on the grounds that the thing consumed is non-autonomous/rational, so consent is not required.

Sex between humans on the other hand requires consent if we wish to base a claim on rights.
Further, while some people are certainly prostitutes willingly and enjoy their profession, many others are coerced by socioeconomic, cultural or other extraneous factors. Meaning that the respect for human autonomy is not met, and one person's rights are violated.

Finally, Maslow's hierarchy have never been fully substantiated by actual research, and presupposes a lot of societal conditions which even in Western culture have varied over time.

t. roasty

>Maslow's hierarchy of needs

If sex is a need, then there must be a right to commit rape.

Rodger had decent hair and a cute body

No. The government doesn't hand out food for free either (well, depends on the country). It, however, maintains an opportunity for you to earn money that you can spend on your needs.

I haven't had sex since I was 17 (21 now)
I live by myself, have a house I'm paying off, and own two vehicles that make me very happy inside.
I wouldn't say it's biologically necessary but it does feel nice

>tfw you've gone down the rabit hole of degeneracy for so long that lovey dovey romantic vanilla is the ont thing that does it for you

It's a complicated feel

He really needed that chad dick in his boipussy, desu. Then he wouldn't be so frustrated.

hnnnnng

Falling lmao

I know that feel way too much user.

No.

And I've never given a shit about sex.

So, no.

Sex is a human right.

I do like the idea of state sanctioned prostitutes. But seems like it would be difficult to put into practise without inadvertently turning people into sex slaves.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but in a lot of countries I believe disabled people have legit workers who come to tug them off every month or so?

if sex is not a human right then benis/bagoo would not be part of the animal biology

if sniffing food and pussy is not a human right then the nose would not be part of the human

and the ancients honored sex, just like water, as a right of all humanity

>The Babylonian custom is that which compels every woman of the land to sit in the temple of Aphrodite and have intercourse with some stranger at least once in her life. Many women who are rich and proud and disdain to mingle with the rest, drive to the temple in covered carriages drawn by teams, and stand there with a great retinue of attendants. But most sit down in the sacred plot of Aphrodite, with crowns of cord on their heads; there is a great multitude of women coming and going; passages marked by line run every way through the crowd, by which the men pass and make their choice. Once a woman has taken her place there, she does not go away to her home before some stranger has cast money into her lap, and had intercourse with her outside the temple; but while he casts the money, he must say, “I invite you in the name of Mylitta” (that is the Assyrian name for Aphrodite). It does not matter what sum the money is; the woman will never refuse, for that would be a sin, the money being by this act made sacred. So she follows the first man who casts it and rejects no one. After their intercourse, having discharged her sacred duty to the goddess, she goes away to her home; and thereafter there is no bribe however great that will get her. So then the women that are fair and tall are soon free to depart, but the uncomely have long to wait because they cannot fulfil the law; for some of them remain for three years, or four. There is a custom like this in some parts of Cyprus.

prostitution was considered sacred and done as charity without consideration of money
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution

a nigga gotta shit and a nigga got get his dick wet

whats all the oppression and cockblocking about?

>Further, while some people are certainly prostitutes willingly and enjoy their profession, many others are coerced by socioeconomic, cultural or other extraneous factors.
Doesn't the same apply to any kind of wageslavery? Why is having sex with someone for money worse than giving someone a massage, wiping his ass (e.g. taking care of children or elderly) or doing about any kind of possibly harmful (hard physical work that permanently ruins your body) work?

To me it looks like we're still subject to spooky puritan morality here.

>if food is a need it must be a right to rob food

try harder

In Switzerland, the gov pays prostitutes for the disabeled persons, like the paraplegics.

Don't know if it cover mental disorders tho.

>The west prefersChristianity over this
Really makes you think

I do believe that it applies to other jobs, or jobs in general.

I think having sex for money is just as bad as giving a massage, wiping an ass, working in a mine or any other job irregardless of difficulty or ease if there are factors beyond an individuals desire pushing them to the activity.

No such things as rights m'boy

You have a mouth that doesn't mean you have to suck dick

...

Yh and sociopaths get the most women thats a fact of real life.

>make sex work legal at gyms
>lose X amount of weight
>get some kind of sexual service
>can only receive service if you hit a new low
>obesity healthcare costs plummet
>sex workers have access to regular testing
>wives who don't put out get salty

But not the most cuddling and that's what matters.

>It's all consent based, some prostitutes are forced to do it.
Well legalise it and make it government regulated and basically turn it into the postal service but for sex.
Have background checks on the people or something, ensure it's not because of crippling debt or some shit.

>Doesn't hand out food.
Well you don't receive a sack of potatoes every week but they do give out money in the form of benefits and stuff like food stamps. I'm unaware of any Western government not doing this. Even the US has foodstamps.

expand your rights

get the whole nation covered under national sex service

>i need it, so its a right
you work for what you need lazy nigger

if you wanna work for your needs then become an ant, bee or german

humans fight for their rights. including their right to fuck

>sex is on the level as breathing and eating
lol, that's absolute nonsense.

The Dutch government already does that.

free sex vouchers to a regulated brothels serviced by generous vagina and anus donors assoc. of eastern europe

you guys outsoros'd soros

mic.com/articles/85201/the-surprising-way-the-netherlands-is-helping-its-disabled-have-sex#.3El6GJXTw

It's not a preference when it is simply what is right and just

It sure would be nice to have some mods on this board that weren't from /pol/

the dutch should promote this to be added to UN human rights declaration

It sure would be nice to have posters who aren't from reddit.

So that all ten or twenty nations with legalized prostitution can implement it?

>compares sex to mining
>irregardless

Yep, you are a roasty.

That's why greeks considered woman as reproductive objects and nothing more.
Fuck a dude. No chance of getting him pregnant, no bitching about rape and experience true sexual pleasure.

>people don't want their daughters to be religiously inclined to be defiled by some gross perverted stranger
really makes you think

iktf

>On Maslow's hierarchy of needs, sex is on the level as breathing and eating.
lol that's like, Biologically not true

Why has no one mentioned masturbation? It's not the full inter-personal connection really needed for a happy, healthy, fulfilled life, but it does take the edge off.

If you're to pent up, you don't process information the same way-- you start seeking sex compulsively. Obviously you aren't going to get it, so you just fixate and torture yourself until you get a free moment to wank.

Government should supply free lube-- what you do with it is your problem.

>being life-denying

how do you get food?

philosophically speaking, a "right" is a man-made political idea. it only really exists in the context of social philosophy.

anyone can live without sex. makes you really think about this "hierarchy of needs". i suppose it would increase general happiness maybe? but then you have the religious groups that vehemently oppose that so it really doesnt work.

all that aside, itd be nice to get laid tho

it is

you do it all just for sex
sex is the primary objective, otherwise nothing would exist

>tfw no gf
Does Veeky Forums know this feel?

>not being satisfied with the tender love of your waifu

I have absolutely no luck with women, and I've got to say the idea of hiring a prostitute just strikes me as distasteful. Sex is a collaborative social activity, the idea of having to pay someone to take part in it with me is much the same to me as the idea of paying someone to hang out with me. Even if it means never experiencing it again, I'm not going to pay for it (or for that matter, get someone else to pay for it, as is the case with the OP proposal).

Yes, believe me I do. I find myself empathizing with Nietzsche's Salome rejection induced rants at times.

join the Church of Sex, it is a non-profit religious organization, focusing on helping the sexually impoverished

sex is a graceful, humanistic act that excludes no one

the Church of Sex offers loving nuns to spiritually uplift the lost souls

true desu
Rights are always just dependent variables of the actual social consensus, no such thing as inalianable human rights exist.
if you are facing starvation, you dont care about others rights
if some people have no means to acquire pussy in the socially accepted way, some of them will be tempted to rape

commies unironically agree with this

>animal biology
>rights
Rights are a human concept, you know.

That's because you fuck cheap hookers.
A real good hooker will do a better job than your gf

>degeneracy has become so common that romantic love becomes the rare, yet valuable thing
Have we reached a full circle yet?

this

your penis instincts are your rights

if your sex instincts are denied, oppressed then the only solution is revolution

Yes, it could be argued that there is a right to sex, but to me it would mean that the government could not do anything to restrict or infringe that right. That wouldn't make the government liable to find you a partner

>illegal to fuck in public
>illegal to fuck at the office
>illegal to fuck at school
>illegal to proposition random sex objects on the street for sex
>not infringe

like in Italy desperate guys just stand on the steet corner harassing any bitch that walks past them for sex....and that aint right

India and Africa got it right?

My bad, I meant that the right could be infringed within reason. I hate utilitarianist logic, but this is the only argument I could make against fucking in pubic premises/acting indecently - in these cases the opinion of the public should be prioritised

That's total bullshit though. I have literally no need for sex. Sure I enjoy it but I can do without it. I rejected plenty of women, even good-looking ones, because I just don't want sex with anything that has a vagina.

>because I just don't want sex with anything that has a vagina
Okay that sounded weird as fuck, what I meant is that I'm not sex-addicted.

guess what fat fucks decline a hamburger every once in a while too

"I've had enough of this shit I think I will pass" comes from a position of abundance

Technically I don't think it can ever be called a right. What it is is an effect of a much bigger unaddressed problem.

Of course sex is at the top of everyone's minds and male virgins are mercilessly mocked, often to a degree that doesn't make any sense, so people leap to sex. Anyway, we need to look beyond sex to get to the bottom of this.

The alpha-beta dynamic is very real and exists in most mammals. In the past most men got married so it is clearly not everything, but with all the evidence of behavioral similarities between humans and chimps and recent trends there is no doubt it is a part of human behavior to a degree.

So, humanity has a natural sentiment for women, children and men they consider part of the tribe, but not men they consider outsiders. It is just a fact. They do not look at troubled teenage boys and think "he needs help", they think "twat", "loser", "little shit", "fuckface" etcetera... Most of us have experienced this first hand. They do it because of this survival instinct, they do it to haze "useless eaters" in the tribe, the women do it because they don't want beta male genetics and the men do it to eliminate rivals. It is no wonder people end up like robots.

Feminists want a society where designated beta male "creeps" are socially excluded and kept away from them while they get pregnant with alpha males. Only when they are older and alpha males lose interest in them sexually will the beta males be invited to marry them and raise another man's kids. This is a utopia according to the primal female mind. The solution I think is just to accept that feminism has failed like many other left wing experiments. You can't seriously expect a significant proportion of the male population to play their part and everything to be fine.

The process can be hastened by educating others.

alpha males only exist b/c beta males forfeited their right to violently reject their domination

Anons just looking for a big spoon like (You)

Philosophy doesn't come into it.

Biologically, sexual (as opposed to asexual) reproduction is thought to be the best way of eliminating bad genes from a gene pool (there was an experiment using modified yeast cultures suggesting this, iirc)

As a result, for there to be any point to sex, it needs to be competition-based, i.e. biologically superior specimens reproduce, and inferior specimens don't. Simple as.

>sex leads always leads to reproduction
You got #btfo you can move along now

This desu

>TFW aids exists and fags are almost all degenerate ubernormies

I am just gonna continue nofap and being a wizard. Hopefully my libido completely drops off some day.

I hope porn one day makes sex for fun obsolete.

>positive rights
kek

Just because it's on the hierarchy of needs does not mean it's necessary to survival.

>cuddling
What are you gay?

Rights don't exist friendo

might makes right tbqhwyf

>why wont da gubernment gib me fwee sex!!!

Upboat

Stop drinking your kool-aid any time.

He wrestles with the bloody shopkeeper

>human right

When I watched Elliot Rodger's videos I couldn't help but sympathize with him a little bit. I didn't relate to his obsession with women and sex, but when he was talking about the day of retribution in his last video a part of me thought "yeah, fucking kill them all, set everything on fire", and I'm honestly ashamed of that.

Government subsidizes sex on one end of the deal, why not the other?