Give us the wipe and the map Nikita. Game is dying.
I still dont understand how a bunch of drunk gopniks with pop guns are supposed to be a bigger threat than 2 state sponsored ex-pmc groups. If anything, there would be militia specialists organizing the skavs to fight on their side.
Jose Reed
>last raid of last night >decide it's time to get rid of my gear fear, for good >take out my only Fast MT, Fort and a completely decked out drum mag M4 >go to customs, play with caution, still manage to die slowly walking into the crate warehouse at Boiler spawn >mildly upset, but resigned to the inevitability of gearloss >go to bed >get on tonight, win two separate duels >walk out with 2 Fast MTs an M4, 5 dog tags and a whole bunch of other shit >heart rate didn't increase throughout the whole raid
It worked boys. I'm finally cured. I can live like a regular human being now.
Wyatt White
There is no real cure for gear fear. Only temporary respite through a healthy inventory and ruble count.
Im going to be pissing my pants again if the economy is tightened up next wipe.
Ayden Sanchez
the real cure is coming in with no gear
Kayden Fisher
To you fagmos who were suggested my dumbass glawk is airshit, it's not.
Plus it's just a stupid glock like what. Why fake that.
James Murphy
But then you're afflicted with the hatchling blight. Feels so dirty
Zachary Fisher
I have just started buying a 74u. Makes you capable of killing anyone even geared with some luck or a drop on em (loaded with bp), and easily deal with hatchlings.
This is generally on factory though.
One decent tag buys back your 22k.
Lucas Hall
Yeah ok bro we believe you. >still manage to die slowly walking There's your problem. Tarkov is a racing game.
Hudson Miller
i hope you did a trigger job before all that tacticool stippling and slide
Colton Rodriguez
>Not recognizing a polymer80 I didn't replace anything. That's a build from 80%. The trigger is an alpha wolf. It's okay, for a glawk. Definitely better than a stock one and much shorter reset
Also the "stippling" it's p80s rough texture frame so...
Kayden Ward
People are talking about how players are able to delete textures from the game and see through buildings. I dont believe it, seems like something the launcher could easily verify, or any loading screen. But at the same time I'm reminded its BSG and priorities are weird, so now I'm scared to go to Shoreline, just after getting over the terrible performance.
Charles Morgan
i dont recognize it because i dont care for glocks, only know that every one i ever fingerbanged had a trigger like a brick. i hope it serves you well though, id rather take my cz75 compact any time.
Leo Morgan
Eh they are okay. I just wanted to tackle an 80%. It was fun.
That said, I prefer a hammered gun too.
Oh and fyi, leddit has a big thread crying that the ttk isn't short enough in tarkov when wearing armor
It's literally going to be cod before it's all over.
Dylan Wright
also, might wanna take your booger hook off the trigger if you ever post that to /k/, especially with glockfags claiming that their finger is the only safety they need
Sebastian Johnson
Glockfags would recognize that the trigger is back and therefore the striker isn't cocked.
/K/ is my home board. They are definitely gun autists but I think I'll be okay.
Leo Barnes
at first i thought fort was op too, but after wearing it and getting wasted on plenty of occasions pre-patch, i changed my mind. i think it was in a good place before the nerf now, as it stands its just a barely beefed up paca.
even if they made fort three times as strong as pre-patch, but cleaned up all the netcode bullshit to get it running like counter strike, i wouldnt care. worse than having someones armor do its job, it trying to peek and getting killed a solid second after im behind cover.
Jackson Stewart
I love not being able to shoot a hatchling that manages to sneak up on you. It's so cool how you put your gun up in the air when they're right in front of you. I love having to take out my own hatch and whack him in the head.
Lucas Peterson
(Assuming you're referring to this pic that is)
Bentley Richardson
fair enough, i dont even own a striker gun, i just know that td is the first thing i see
James Myers
Why the heck are people selling dismantled rifles to the fence?
Alexander Ross
The generosity of the economy is the only respite this game offers. If they make that brutal too, I'm not sure if I'll have the heart to continue to main this game. Yes, you can lose all of your shit in a hurry, but you can just go stealth/scav mode to re up on rifles and make half a million rubles in just a couple hours. I hope they don't take that away. If they do, it will literally nothing but the no-lifers who can play the game full time.
Isaiah Nguyen
This game's a hoarder's nightmare. Especially SE
Nathaniel Ward
>545x39_PRS penetration lowered to 19. 556x45_MK_255_Mod_0 damage lowered to 55, penetration - to 26 t.nikita
so PP or PS for 5.45 now if I am too lazy to camp traders?
Brody Jones
I prefer PP when I run out of BP.
Jonathan Williams
Funny, im the opposite. Completely stopped playing once i reached level 30 and had access to almost everything and no fear of losing it.
Theres no carrot left for me in the current economy. pubg is more fun if i just want semi-realistic pvp.
The enjoyment I get is from playing the game in two completely different ways. Either to kill, or to stockpile. If I go in just to fight, I don't even bring a backpack. Just a silenced rifle, some armor, and usually comtacs. And I hunt. Simple as that. I rush to the sound of combat.
After I do that for awhile and thin out my stash, then I shift gears and play for loot until I'm rich again. I'll still take a fight if a favorable one presents itself, but I'll avoid contact unless I'm confident I can win handily. I've been having a lot of fun playing this way.
Thomas Cox
>"penetration damage - technical parameter for internal computation. the bigger - the better chance to penetrate armor and transfer more damage to a body"
>"also to be mentioned - ammo has another technical parameters, which are not included in this chart. Mass, ballistic characterics and so on. Will add it later - for now current parameters give a sufficient picture"
>" fragmentation - this means that bullet can split after body penetration and inflict way more damage"
Christopher Morgan
reminder to backstab mastigoswilkins
it's so fun to see him rage
Zachary White
Will do. Find him on tarkov trading or some shit?
Kevin Myers
but i never rage
John Wilson
i've seen him there a couple of times
Jose Bennett
When will they implement this change tho?
Charles Martinez
it might have been server side
Nolan Roberts
>mfw map has realistic fold lines, stains and to-scale symbology for walls that make it realistically actually fucking difficult to read Which key realistically crumples it up and shouts "fuck this" at the top of my realistic lungs?
Jordan Butler
ded
Easton Young
thread a ded, post gun porn
Gavin Nguyen
Anyone else experiencing low FPS issues after patch? Every map used to play fine for me before, but after patch only Factory is now playable.
Blake Adams
Same here.
And it has been raining a lot lately in game, so the FPS drop is even bigger.
Elijah Rivera
Is this game on steam yet?
Jordan Nguyen
Yeah, seems like 80% of Customs games I do are raining at beginning.
Parker Campbell
why would you want it on the jews store?
Thomas Martin
bad games deserves to be in bad store
Hudson Perry
...
James Russell
It actually happened this time
Jaxson King
Sorry, but I am terrible and I'm going to do this.
Paying $20+ for exploits, let me know what it is and I'll paypal you. [email protected]
Grayson Anderson
Exploits in a game in beta waiting to be wiped...
Parker Long
>PF940C Congrats, you actually managed to have something worse than airshit.
Sebastian Morgan
>being this fucking bad >cant even google a simple search >pays money for glitches there are a few that i wont tell you about
Jack Murphy
>hurr TTK is too long even after the armor nerfs! >BSG proceeds to nerf mk255 and 5.45 BS into the ground Next thing you know we'll be running around with Nerf bows and super soakers.
Aaron Nguyen
PP unless all you wanna do is gank scavs, then SP or HP. You should never use PS 5.45.
Nicholas Clark
I got you. Just google uninstall.exe and run as administrator.
Zachary King
They did it last night.
Gavin Walker
>implying PP is much better than PS 2 more penetration for 6 less damage. I'd honestly rather use PS at that point.
Adam Morris
That 2 more penetration lowers rounds-to-penetrate on Fort from 15 to 11. That's huge.
Logan Rivera
lol spent the last hour doing runs on Shoreline trying to kill 25 scavs for a task. Then I found out that I actually have to kill 25 scavs on Customs. Which is kinda a relief cuz in 1 hour I only managed to find and kill like 7 scavs
Jace Long
Source on those numbers? Nothing's been said about how the penetration value interacts with armor. I have a hard time imaging a difference of 2 makes that huge of an impact.
Eli Powell
>spawns in boiler solo >doesn't get the fuck out of there
???
Christian Mitchell
Low durability, costs more than the value of the weapon to repair, take off all quality attachments and put them on a new weapon
Colton Murphy
Empirical testing and discussion about such on reddit. Yeah, yeah, I know, reddit. But they did it correctly and it's been confirmed by both Klean and Nikita independently. Basically they broke it down in chart form of how many rounds of each type of ammo a Fort would absorb before it had a >97% chance of penetrating. I'll see if I can find the thread.
>I have a hard time imagining a difference of 2 makes that huge of an impact That's a 7% difference, it's not negligible.
Jordan Myers
Post funs or you're just jelly
Nathaniel Kelly
This? That's half the TTK you're describing. You sure you're not looking at super out of date stuff?
Hudson Bell
:^)
Anthony Nguyen
Little newer than that, that was when Fort was dropped to lvl 5 armor class and 40 durability. But I think from the same guy(s).
Ian Martinez
Nah I think this was the post they made after it got reupped to level 6 and 45 durability. The 7.4 table was the one with class 5, and by patch 7.5 the armor class was back to 6, right?
I dunno, man. Honestly, this whole discussion we're having is why I wish we got better info from the devs about ammo and armor interaction.
Zachary Walker
>Honestly, this whole discussion we're having is why I wish we got better info from the devs about ammo and armor interaction Spot on there.
The 7.5 patch was when Fort was dropped to armor class 5. They did an unversioned hotfix at some point to bring it back up to armor class 6, which occurred after they brought the durability back up (but only by a few hours, yesterday had like 7 different unversioned hotfixes). The piss poor patch documentation has this really hard to track down but the way I'm seeing it is: >big patch 0.7.4.972 The one with the patch notes. Dropped Fort durability from 60 to 40. Did not change armor class. >smaller, patch-note-less 0.7.5.92something This is the one where they fixed the oversight of the AK buttpad being back to -15. Supposedly when they dropped the armor class of Fort to 5 from 6, also when they slaughtered PACA. >unversioned hotfix brought PACA back up to 40 durability >unversioned hotfix broke PACA again, moved Kiver to Skier 2 >unversioned hotfix Cheapened Glawk substantially >unversioned hotfix tinkered with 9x39 damage values, moved Kiver to Skier 3 >patch-note-less but versioned 0.7.5.976 Brought Fort back up to 60 durability, changed Mechanic Wcase trade from 5 to 7 BTC >unversioned hotfix brought PACA back up to 40 durability, reverted Fort to armor class 6 >unversioned hotfix Nerfed mk255mod0, 5.45 PRS
And all that happened in about 30 hours.
Parker Hughes
Oh shit we've got a general, how long has that been the case?
Anyway, given I'm a shitter and there are streamer-tier players running around in groups, what is my best hope to survive raids? Hide/ambush? Is a pistol better than a TOZ for low-gear outtings? I heard they nerfed shotguns into the ground.
Andrew Baker
>Brought Fort back up to 60 durability
No
Landon Sanchez
>plastic guns Disgusting
Jaxon Lewis
God dammit, did they revert that too? I LITERALLY just traded for one and got a 60-durability one.
Nathaniel Cruz
>long recoil on a battle rifle the hell?
Zachary Rodriguez
Holy shit, lol. I missed half those changes 'cause I spent a single day playing Siege. Wew lad. Alright, well, I have no fucking clue anymore. At this point, I don't even care about PS vs PP ammo and just wanna stop being fucking confused by this shit.
The AN-94 has some pretty nutty internals. You should check it out at some point if you're into guns; it's pretty cool.
Ryder Foster
I wouldn't take that user too seriously. See Also Kiver isn't Skier 3 like he said.
Nathaniel Gray
Someone started one when CBT started, but we died in just a few threads. He or another user brought us back maybe a month or two ago, and this one was going pretty strong for a while. No new content for a bit though, so we've been dying off again.
And yeah shotguns blow if you aren't going for legs with them (assuming the dude you're shooting has armor on). The TT sucks now too, by the way.
Best way to survive raids depends on what you're good at, how geared you are, and what's going on in the raid you're in. Can't help you much with that except tell you to play more and learn the maps & meta as much as you can.
Noah Hall
You win Gramps
Liam Flores
>Not posting your own Even worse. I own non plastic too.
Jeremiah Gray
Goddamn I wish companies still put that kind of effort into bluing these days. Not even the custom shop guns have that degree of polish.
Aiden Clark
Agreed my friend. It's a 1973
Blake Rodriguez
My '80 Ruger SBH comes close but Ruger never quite got to where Smith was with the polish. I have to stick with high-end shotguns to get that level of bluing. >tfw the Miroku-made Brownings are actually better polished than the FN-made Brownings from the 70's My Miroku-Citori 725 Sporting is actually higher luster than my Belgian Citori 325 Crown despite being a much lower grade. Wood isn't quite as nice (the Crown has exhibition grade wood) but the finish is top notch on what it does have.
Dominic Carter
Noice
Camden Howard
dont die yet
Bentley Evans
The game will die. It's slav trash with one of the most atrocious money theft ToC's that's ever been seen in anything. Battlefield is objectively a better shooter, and doesn't have trash mechanics, retarded movement system, or AI that's somehow worse than Bethesda's. It'll take a lot more than optimization to fix this tryhard joke. Now they're listening to all the streamer codbois bitching about the game being too hard and prioritizing those fixes over gfx or netcode optimization.
They could walk away from this at any second, with zero repercussions, and probably not even bat an eye. And that will become a more and more likely scenario as their community further toxifies.
Justin King
Bfbabby
Ethan Long
Funny story they actually have a history of doing just that.
Liam Ortiz
just run FMJ it's cheap and good
Ayden Ramirez
I used to do that a wipe or two ago, is that really still the case?
Juan Allen
it's 3 times cheaper, only does 5% less damage, now has a 20% increase on armor penetration compared to new PRS 5.45. only "downside" is that it has a 0.6% slower bullet speed, and way higher chance of ricochet (which i think is better?) also FMJ has higher fragmentation probability, so i think it's overall a better round than PRS now. all hail new FMJ masterrace
Bentley Powell
I need to read up on ammo, fragmentation & ricochets are new concepts to me
Michael Long
i made a shitty comparative chart in mspaint
Xavier Mitchell
Just wanted to kill Scavs for Punisher 3 and these fucks had to get in my way
Adrian Cruz
...
Jeremiah Cooper
How good is the TOZ? Better than a mak?
Henry Cook
BSG said they will be releasing an official ammo chart "soon"
James Allen
Toz is worthless. I'd rather take my chances with a hatchet. At least that way you can stealth kill a scav and maybe get away with it.
Easton Cooper
That should be -60% for price, + 400% for ci, +800% for frag Did you break your calculator?
John Brooks
hold up you're saying scavs don't have magic 'you waved your crosshair over me for 0.001s so now I'm going shoot you through 3 bushes 8 trees & the corner of a shed at 90 yards with a mak' reactions anymore?