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The Franks were from Frankfurt in Germany and spoke Old High German.

Reminder

t. Germanic servant

It's pretty obvious where Franks were from

The Holy Roman was neither Holy nor Roman

>giving a single solitary fuck about jewt's "opinions"

He signed himself Karolus Magnus. Besides France and Germany didn't exist jet.

The Dutch are merely Dutchified Frenchmen though.

audible KEK

moot was a fool and got outplayed by stronger interests willing to appeal to the stormfags

he thought being the 'forefront of the anonymous revolution' meant that he could dictate its course too, and was smacked down like the little bitch he always was.

t. charlamané

desu im a bigger fan of charles martel. more significant figure for the rise of the white race.

>The Franks were from Frankfurt in Germany

And the princes were from Port-au-Prince

WE

Well in that case he never existed

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This, fuck off to /int/ with that shit

The French are merely frenchified Germans though.

he wasn't belgae or fleming tho

Well he's a tranny and allowed a board to share child porn for about a year so ... not really gonna take his advice

But was he an emperor?

He was actually a Saxon, that's why he kept on beating them up because he didn't want his mothers secret to spread

Frankfurt = "Ford to Francia" or "Ford to the Franks" you peasant

>he thought being the 'forefront of the anonymous revolution' meant that he could dictate its course too
>decides to make an anime webstie at the age of 15
>only uses it to share naked pictures of asuka
>apparently this means he had some pretention of pushing forward an anonymoose revolution

>Approximate location of the original Frankish tribes in the 3rd century

OK everybody fucking thread closed.

Everybody go home unless you like being trolled by a retard who can't fucking use Google.

Good fucking thread OP now go kill yourself.

>moot

Who?

>not realizing all of the talking points and lectures moot gave at various internet conferences through his tenure especially during the later half when facebook/tumblr/twitter became bywords in american lexicon

nice try moot, your failed dreams win no cachet here.

Might as well say:

Frankfurt = Ford of the Franks" or "Ford where Franks settled", you peasant.

>he doesn't really that those talks were master-level trolling

Charlemagne didn't live in the 3rd century, and that map shows French clay.

Belgae literally got absorbed into the Frankish foederati and Flemish culture/ethnicity came about later
West Frankia is occupying too much clay as it is.

Where's my Lothariniggas at?
WE WUZ FRANKZ N SHEIT

Lotharingia is French. Eastern Francia is French too, but you can keep that shit.

It is not you Gaulish pig.

Such master level trolling they left you without a job in the end!

You sure fooled us all, moot.

>you without a job in the end!
but moot works for google now

All mainland germanic peoples are just romanticised scandinavians.

You tell me

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HUNS BTFO

>not knowing the differences between celtic belgae and salian franks

you're too stupid to live

>Franks
>Not germanic

franks are germans

It is amazing indeed. Gold is a very valuable commodity. You are very powerful and I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal. I totally didn't have plans for independence or world relevance by the way.

>Charlemagne wasn't French
"French" as in global nation is a social construct. In France there are several nations and several ethnics (celtics, mediterraneans, germanics, germano-celtics, arpitans, etc...).

Charlemagne was French in the sense he ruled over the uninterrupted geopolitical entity called "France" which was started with Clovis and maintained through History, dynasties and regime to become what is nowadays' France.

Was Charlemagne French ? Yes, he was a French monarch, of germanic ethnics of France.

Charlemagne was a Frank who was a French monarch and expended east to germany before splitting and creating a german geopolitical entity (eastern francia) which would become the HRE and later Germany as we know it.
His actions as a French monarch resulted in the creation of Germany.

That's the reason he is commonly called "Charlemagne", his French name. Even his story is called Matter of France.

Ne sont que iij matières à nul homme atandant,
De France et de Bretaigne, et de Rome la grant.

he was dutch tho

>french coming from germans
???????

But he ruled over Germany's territory, you fucking idiot

As a continuity of the geopolitical entity Clovis (Louis) created, aka France. It split later of course, but it doesn't change the fact Franks ruled over what is France now before expending to germany and creating the geopolitical entity which would become HRE and later modern germany.
You don't need to call me an idiot, it's very unnecessary and is counter-productive for the discussion.

This is a stupid, useless discussion.

>That's the reason he is commonly called "Charlemagne", his French name.
In French and English, duh. In German, he is called "Karl der Große", and doing a quick look through the names of his Wikipedia page in other languages, the claim that he is "commonly called Charlemagne" doesn't hold up at all.

You're right. I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction.

This reminds me awfully of the Alexander the Great argument.

>Alexandros the 3rd
>King of Macedonians
>Greek

Just as present day Macedonians (fyrom), being french is a modern (national) concept. Doesn't mean he is German though. Germanic would probably be appropriate.

France is no more a continuity of the Frankish empire than Germany. Plus Clovis expanded into France from an area that nowadays mostly overlaps with the BeNeLux

Fun fact: Slavic words for "King" (Korol, Král, Król) are derived from "Karl" much like the way the words for Emperor in many languages (Kaiser, Tsar) are derived from Caesar.

t. Karl der Große

France didn't even exist yet, Charlemagne predates what we know as France. The only thing you can say Charlemagne was is Frankish. So West Germanic. But he lived in France and ruled over France and the kingdom he created gave birth to modern France.

So in reality he's neither strictly German or French. Just like how the HRE is neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire. Fitting, isn't it, that Charlemagne founded the >HRE then?

>he lived in France
He lived in Germany though, and was (probably) not born in present day France either.

Saxons and Frisians OUT!

He lived in the kingdom of Francia. Germany wouldn't exist for another thousand+ years.

>without a job
He's at Google, fool.

And France for a couple hundred.
It having a history that's in some ways less tumultuous does not make it a more direct continuation.

Dutch are blond and tall, thus not Franks descents, they're descendants of the Vikings. .

Modern Franks speaking the Frankish-derived languages.

That's the Dutch and Germans
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconia

Fuck off larper

Only blood matter

>Only blood matter
okay, so he's a german then

>The folks who speak the Frankish language evolution, who live in the Frankish homeland, live in God-Damn Franconia, which came from East Franconia of the Frankish Kingdom, are supposed to be less Frankish than some latinized gauls

Nope he is French you blond haired snow niggers should stop trying to stop our ancestors and go back to Scandinavia

Gauls werre tall blond haired blue eyed
Franks were dark haired, brown haired, brown eyed
French are brown haired and brown eyed

Thus we're the descendants of the Franks, the snow niggers are Gauls descendants that our ancestors expelled from France

>Charlemagne was likely born in Germany or Belgium
>Charlemagne was a Frank
>Charlemagne was King of the Franks
>his country was the kingdom of Franks
>Franks are by your definition german
>b-but he wasn't german

Are you so mad that your country is named after a German tribe that you're trying to convince yourself they weren't Germanic?

>Thus we're the descendants of the Franks
Yes, and the Franks are Germans you dummy. The Franks were a Germanic tribe, this is a fact. You aren't some pure Romano-Celtic master race, modern France is at least half German and like you said, the modern French people descend partly from the Franks.

So Gauls reside in Germania, the Germanics reside in Gaul?

Hello b8

do you have a single fact to back that up

>charles the gross

Various physical descriptions of the Gauls and Franks by Latin authors and the Carolingians illuminated manuscripts portraying Frankish soldiers, kings, bishops, and scribes.

See this for the Carolingian illuminated manuscripts :
See this for the Gauls
>According to Ammianus Marcellinus
The Gauls are generally tall, with white skin, blond hair and frightful and ferocious eyes. Their mood is quarrelsome and extremely arrogant

>According to Diodorus Siculus:
The Gauls are tall of body with rippling muscles and white of skin and their hair is blond, and not only naturally so for they also make it their practice by artificial means to increase the distinguishing colour which nature has given it. For they are always washing their hair in limewater and they pull it back from the forehead to the nape of the neck, with the result that their appearance is like that of Satyrs and Pans since the treatment of their hair makes it so heavy and coarse that it differs in no respect from the mane of horses. Some of them shave the beard but others let it grow a little; and the nobles shave their cheeks but they let the moustache grow until it covers the mouth.

He was Catholic and spoke the ancestral language of the Dutch, which descends from Frankish.

He's closer to the Flemish than the Flemish are to the Belgiae

But Tacitus described the Germanic tribes as blue eyed and light haired, not swarthy

Franks are Phyrigian descendants and merely spoke a German language but weren't germanic themselves as they swarthy prove it, Gauls were more Germanic than Franks in fact.

>as they swarthy prove it

as their swarthy appareance prove it*

Tacitus makes note of what he called the Istaevones, which we know to be the Franconian/Weser-Rhine Germanics.

When did your Anatolians you speak of make it to northwestern Germania?

*Isvaeones

Wait, what am I doing, this is b8 out the ass

Go be retarded somewhere else.