Has there ever been a successful united multicultural civilization - one in which the proportion of each race of the...

Has there ever been a successful united multicultural civilization - one in which the proportion of each race of the inhabitants were roughly equal?

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The U.S.

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What part of "united" and "the proportion of each race of the inhabitants were roughly equal" didn't you understand?

>The U.S.
>roughly equal
Nope.

Singapore definitely counts, although they're not really a "civilization," and they went through a few rough patches before reaching a state of peaceful equilibrium. Ceuta, but that's also just a city, not even a big one.

Any large empire -- Roman, Mongolian, British, Russian, Ottoman, Portuguese ... but of course the ruling bodies in those empires weren't anywhere near as multicultural as the empires themselves.

India, obviously, but although that's a country the only reason it's united is because the Brits happened to conquer it in one big chunk.

There's the Holy Roman Empire, but then
>united
>HRE
>pick one

Teotihuacan was the center of an immensely influential civilization and most archaeologists think it was a multicultural city, with different groups living in different quarters of the city, but our knowledge about it is and probably always will be extremely limited because they had no writing system.

Really, it's just not a very meaningful question because too many of the parameters are hard to define -- "successful," "united," "multicultural," "civilization", I can guarantee you for any example you can give somebody will dispute that at least one of those words applies to it. Or they'll point out that even though e.g. Rome was certainly multicultural/multiethnic, it wasn't without ethnic conflict, and might've been more successful if it was homogenous; the same could be said for any of the other states/civilizations that I mentioned. Parts of Russia and India are certainly plagued by ethnic tension.

That's all a very long and very unsatisfying answer. Sorry.

Switzerland

Ancient Egypt

Most major empires had a mix of different racial groups with different levels of integration.

Singapore m8

>Singapore
It's mostly East Asian though isn't it? Also how many Blacks live there?

Ancient empire X practiced a radically different form of multiculturalism from the modern conception of the word.

Keep this is in mind when /pol/acks blame multiculturalism for their demise and when sjw types praise them for being oh so tolerant and diverse.

>multicultural
A meme term at this point.

A 100% ethnicly same country can be multicultural as is the case with Albania - in terms of religion for example.

The different representatives of the cultures have to agree on a few core principles about how things are run. So there is a balance between everybody being the same and having different cultures.

>Multiculturalism is connected to race
What kind of fucking meme opinion is this
This is we wuz of the highest degree
Do the average white American truly believe he has more in common with a random European nation than Jamal down the street?

>ethnically same country
Just say "ethnically homogeneous". It sounds better.

>The different representatives of the cultures have to agree on a few core principles about how things are run.
The problem with having people who embrace different cultures within the same society is that they, for the most part, can't agree on core principles. That's what makes cultures different from each other.

>So there is a balance between everybody being the same and having different cultures.
This just seems like a contradiction to me

why is having blacks a requirement for multiculturalism? what the fuck is this

>Do the average white American truly believe he has more in common with a random European nation than Jamal down the street?
I do

>Do the average white American truly believe he has more in common with a random European nation than Jamal down the street?
Uh yeah?

One is mein aryan bruder, a comrade in the upcoming race war where we reclaim our motherland Europa. The other is a subhuman untermensch.

>Do the average white American truly believe he has more in common with a random European nation than Jamal down the street?
Last time I checked whites and blacks are not particularly fond of one another in America.

>Do the average white American truly believe he has more in common with a random European nation than Jamal down the street?
Actually, yes. If the average white American took the time to really evaluate the cultures embraced by white Europeans and compared them to that which is embraced by Dindoos, they would certainly find that they have more in common with the former.

I think the rule of thumb is when times are good, states are open about letting skilled outsiders into powerstructures based on merit. In bad times, the other gets blamed for problems real and imagined and the majority takes out frustrations on minorities. See the Roman and Ottoman empires in their death throes.

It's like a third Chinese a third South Asian and a third southeast Asian. Those are pretty different cultures.

It's not, but leaving blacks out of the mix isn't very progressive, user.

How can fatburgers be THIS deluded?!

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Unless Wikipedia is bullshitting me:

Chinese 74.3%
Malay 13.3%
Indian 9.1%
Other 3.8%

If this is false, can you provide me with a credible source?

okay, so when people say multicultural is always by definition bad, they mean multiracial and by multiracial, they mean brown people - and the solution would be? what?
have the majority group destroy the minority group

are you being dishonest towards other people or towards yourself there and is it on purpose

The USA is a country of we wuz, like they believe because there great-great-great-great-great grand father was Irish, it means they are Irish should celebrate St Patrick and send money to IRA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union

sent a guy to space first

they didn't historically import slaves by the boatload like the US did so blacks aren't numerous though

the soviet union tried to stamp out all traces of culture though

Step outside of academia. White burgers can't stand black culture. Why do you think so many whites voted Trump while 90% of blacks voted Hillary? We fucking hate each other.

What the fuck sort of memery is this?
>give me a society 20% black 20% east asian 20% slav 20% white and 20% abo
>also it needs to be "successful"

Correct.

Also did they have any blacks there is my question?

>he doesn't get the we wuz meme
it only works if they actually wuzn't, but if their forefathers actually wuz then the meme doesn't work.

>>give me a society 20% black 20% east asian 20% slav 20% white and 20% abo
Well then how do you define a multiracial society? Can it be 99% white?

>a multiracial society?
there we go

Maybe not "wuz" but saying you are Irish because your ancestor that you never met was while you never went to Ireland and the only "Irish" things you do is wearing green and drinking beer during St Patrick it's nearly the same as saying Gengis Khan was white or Mozart was black.

People of different races embrace different cultures so multiracialism and multiculturalism can be used interchangeably.

Are Muslims a race

I'm not Irish but I believe people whom identify as Irish mainly do so because of their Irish heritage, it's their bloodline they can't escape from and there's nothing wrong for them to celebrate that if they like in my honest opinion.

kek, degenerate burgers

If you believe being 0,000001% of anything is worth basing your entire personality on then you really are a shallow person.

For example: Hearing Americans that are like 1/4 (Insert European people), but that has never lived there or actually had any meaningful connection with the place claim to be "Irish" or "Irish-American" is literally the most cringe thing on earth.

We should really learn from them and actually vet our immigrants better and assimilate the people we have here instead of letting everybody go into

SPECIALSNOWFLAKE HYPHEN EUROPEAN mode until THE END OF TIME

The US is a glorified economic zone, were random groups of people live in relative isolation.

But user, Slavs and Irish isn't white.
Nor is Italians.

But White is the cool buzzword. Lets use a better term: A culture capable of long term wealth to its participants.
Irish isn't really capable of that, neither is the various Anglo groups.

>Jamal down the street?

Isn't your bedroom just down the street?

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>united multicultural civilization - one in which the proportion of each race of the inhabitants were roughly equal?
race isn't the same as culture dipshit. late nineteenth century germany was all white, for example, but there were huge cultural cleavages along political, ethnic, regional, social and sectarian lines. Same goes for all Western European states in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. The relative cultural homogeneity that arose after WWII had a lot to do with the fact that liberal capitalism, the nation-state and secularism (i.e. nonaffiliation/religious apathy) triumphed and social relations were kept in balance by welfare state policies. Late 20th century was an anomaly of monolithic culture. Multiculturalism was the norm before then.

>20% slav 20% white

>Slavs aren't white

>If the average white American took the time to really evaluate the cultures embraced by white Europeans and compared them to that which is embraced by Dindoos, they would certainly find that they have more in common with the former.
this is such a retarded answer because your admitting that, as a matter of fact, americans are only similar to europeans only after a period of study, which is the very opposite of innate commonalities between two supposedly interchangeable cultures.

Maybe Trinidad and Tobago?

Depends how you define "successful" but they have roughly equal proportions of Indians and Blacks and are less of a shithole than the majority of both purely Black countries and purely Desi countries

>Trinidad and Tobago
>leftists need to make up countries to justify multiculturalism

What?


That doesn't make any sense

It really depends on what you define as "equal."

>equality by opportunity
essentially, no one is allowed to restrict access to things on ethnic/religious grounds.

>equality by perceived opportunity
In addition to allowing people from other backgrounds, one must also make efforts to advertise these opportunities to those from all backgrounds, and make reasonable accommodations when prompted so as to avoid any perceived hostility

underlying causes of inequality are also recognized and discussed

>equality by outcome
If a group has a less diverse population than the surrounding geographical area, it is the owner's responsibility to change hiring/membership strategies or the nature of the group itself until the gap is filled.

some underlying causes of inequality are addressed by public programs

>equality by inherent privilege
Any member of a minority group should - by right - be considered before any member of a majority group.

Qualifications for entering a job/organization should be retooled to account for the limited amount of minority groups who qualify

Programs that specifically address causes of inequality should have priority over programs that promote prosperity overall.

Since when are blacks a necessary criteria for multiculturalism

I think op meant multiracial

>American education

Switzerland (don't believe the memesters, German Swiss aren't better off) is one of the most successful countries in the world.

The only thing separating DeMarcus the baptist Alabaman and Cletus the baptist Alabaman is the brand of ridiculous names they call their children.

Hahahahahaha!
good one man

There's nothing "wrong" with it but it's still cringy. Just be American ffs

I actually agree with this. Despite Europeans apparent desire to distance themselves as much as possible from anything remotely American, American culture is based on European culture. It has diverged significantly over the years, yes, but black culture in the US has pretty much existed in a vacuum as it's only recently that white people have started really embracing it. Anyone who's spent time with American blacks can see they really do have a culture of their own that's distinct from mainstream white American culture

Why do americans think multiculturalism is solely based on race anyway? I find it ironic considering the cultural differences between immigrants of the same continent

>black culture in the US has pretty much existed in a vacuum as it's only recently that white people have started really embracing it.
You're fucking kidding, right? Minstrel shows were HUGELY popular in nineteenth century America (and Britain btw). Other musical contributions are huge throughout the twentieth century. Besides that, black politics was always a subset of America politics. Blacks were HEAVILY influenced by Protestant culture. Black and white culture have always intermingled, period. And I don't even particularly care for blacks but your post is just wrong.

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Why does racial homogeny produce peace and contentment?

Because for Americans there are only three cultures: black, yellow and white.

No. Imposing multiculturalism is a completely modern invention.

Because if you're a complete failure you can hate on some minority making up 0.01% of the population and they can't fight back.

>what's Roman syncretism

I agree, if they bothered to learn about other cultures they would see they have a lot in common with European countries like Romania.

>what are European wars

multiculture can't exist for longer periods, as culture defines morals, laws, language, african/middle eastern ghettos in Europe or mexican ghettos in USA is as multicultural as it gets, everyone who isn't part of that particular ghetto culture moves away as they can't live together without violence, and thats how these enclaves are formed in the first place

Americans turn everything into a race topic.

failures would then have a better understanding of these immigrants/refoogees than some delusional low test leftist in the capital as immigrants and refugees mainly live in poorer areas which failures also do, while non-failures live in areas which has no refugees or immigrants

they're essentially trying to deconstruct the door to the nation, while if asked if their gate or door towards their community and house should also be deconstructed, they don't want that

but it's not exactly news that decadent leftists are delusional hypocrites

underrated post

Fifty percent of Americans didn't even fucking vote for president, how the shit do you think you can get away with saying horseshit like this?

Babylon? Dunno about how equal it was frankly..

Rome

It's just a wave of /Pol/acks, it will pass. bound to happen in a thread about meme political BS.

Funny how there are many Americans that identify as white but have a skin tone like pic or like brooke baldwin.

>Not "united".
>United States of America

inb4 before you counter with secessionism from 150+ years ago

Rome.

Belgium.

Half French, half Dutch, yet they stay together.

It also shows you how Multiculturalism kind of fails, because Belgium is not a Nation, it's two nations who see themselves as such.

The only way for a Nation to form is for one culture to become the norm, not for two or three to vie for power.

Nope, everyone under the Roman Tiara became Roman.

It's assuming that white people in Europe somehow share a culture. It cannot be stressed enough how utterly insane this notion is.

Americans are culturally closer to Latin America than a lot of white European cultures. And if you think that the fact that you don't like black people matters in any way when it comes to your holiday, how you approach strangers, if you tip or not, how much you care about guns, your religious beliefs, your view on climate change and evolution, cuisine, or whatever you want to look at, you're simply wrong.

>What's an empire?

Technically there hasn't been a civilization or place on earth was wasn't multicultural because everyone has varying ancestry and racial makeup to some degree or another and is also why legit race wanking and wewuzianism is retarded

nope
singapore is a chinese colony built on SEA malays land, and the malays and indians are discriminated there, demographic wise. singapore is 65 percent chinese, and around 20ish percent malays and indians each

you do realize that singapore happens because of literal race riot? the local malays (though not official, more of unspoken rule) are discouraged and are unallowed to have certain government position and join the army, due to suspicion that they will be more loyal to Malaysia or Indonesia should a war ensues

t. SEA guy

Belgium is a fucking nation.

>But it's artifical.

Cut the crap all nations are "artificial" in some way or another.

Because American is a super vague as fuck thing.

American culture is arguably the least subtle culture in the world.

it's getting less vague.

apparently anyone who comes here illegally and has a child and will worship democrats tog et free money is "american" but if you're a white republican who is wary of big government, your values are very "unamerican."

seems clear enough to me. the elite have decided.

We are very cuck-ish these days, but in all honesty cross culture tension is pretty low in Canada.

it's not cringy. I identify THEM as irish as well

they're literally different from anglos

there's a reason we still have the word WASP. niggers might have hijacked it, but WASPS and the germans are really the only groups that perform that well, overall, in america. the italians, irish, etc make up inner city gangsters and mountain-dwelling drunks. I sympathize with them, but they are NOT smart people. they act like irish.

I identify them as irish, so they self-identify as well.

also, our anglos are absolute cucks. they don't want to be associated with that.

Yup. I got more incommon with the Scots than Jamal. Goddamn I love German food.

Modern day India I guess. Its pretty culturally diverse. That being said I can't really say its successful and most people keep to their own areas except in the metros like Mumbai, Delhi or Kolkata

the Roman Empire

This.

Just fucking face the facts: If you were born in America into American culture, you're American. Not European, not hyphen-American, you're just American. You have American culture.

Likewise, if you were born elsewhere but moved to America, or were born in America but raised with the culture of your homeland, then you're not American. You're whatever your culture comes from.

For instance, I'm 1/4 Swedish, 1/4 German, 1/4 Ukrainian, and 1/4 Polish. I was born and raised in Canada in a completely English-speaking household where we ate things like hot dogs, hamburgers, and things similar to English breakfasts and roast dinners. I am nothing but Canadian. If people ask my ethnicity, that's what I tell them.

That, or "white". But I'm trying to stray away from the term "white", because that's the problem. No one wants to admit that they're actually a product of North American culture because no one thinks North American culture exists. They just think that burgers and fries, the morning cup of coffee, backyard barbecues, pool parties, speaking general-American-dialect English, high school jock-nerd dynamics, normally scantily-dressed women, and dudes in tacky suits and ties with fading hair trying to sell you used cars are all "White people" things. In actuality, THAT is North American culture. It is distinctly a North American scene, both U.S and Canadian, regardless of race.

It's a fucking shame that when some ethnic person sees a fellow ethnic person start assimilating into North American culture, they accuse them of being "white-washed" and losing their culture. North American culture is real, and if it's what you've been familiar with for your whole life, then you're not European, you're not African, you're not Asian, you're American (or Canadian) and there is no fucking shame in that. It's why your parents/grandparents/great-great-etc. moved here, asshole.

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