/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

Mario is literally Sonic but better. Mario would fucking kick Sonic's ass.

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Does Mania have character mods that change gameplay yet?

I'm good with ray 'n mighty but when I like the romhacks of sonic 1/2 that give her the advanced moveset. It's a different dynamic to work with the hammer.

I'll try my best, Mariobab. Let's start by making this thread a Sonadow-free zone.

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Best Bros!

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>bing bing wahoo

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>aren't there already Amy mods in Mania already?
1. They all look like shit
and
2. character mods are just skins right now. the only mod that somewhat changes gameplay is Sonic Tag Team and that's forever an unfinished mess now.

I'm going to miss her so much..

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She was too cute & adorable for this world. She'll live on in fan work & hopefully IDW picks up the post-SGW line for a separate line.

im the biggest sonic fan that ever lived and as much as u like the franchise u will never like it as much as i do

*Max the Chicken

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the gameplay is perfect.
changing the golden classic sonic formula would ruin everything. it cannot be touched.

Naoto Ohshima barely speaks English.

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brushu

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headcanon

How good do you think Iizuka's English is? He seemed to directly respond to a lot of questions during the Q&A without needing the translator.

When he hears fans complain about Green Hills and Chemical Plants, he gets confused an assumes that we all REALLY like Green Hills and Chemical Plants.

He can read and understand it marginally well, but his conversational skills are very limited.

he can understand as much english as there is to know but hell still never understand wat fans want from the franchise

seganerds.com/2018/03/19/sega-clarifies-how-existing-sonic-mania-owners-will-get-encore-dlc-pack/

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He eats toaster. What more do you need to know?

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Boostfags literally ruin everything and they continue giving Sega money and allow Sonic Forces to "perform strongly" alongside Mania.

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>"fucking sick and tired of green hill and chemical plant"
>"Ah, yes! Framous restern sarcrasm"

He's probably learning a lot given that he has to talk to the Mania and PR teams constantly.

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He can hold a conversation and get basic ideas across, but he needs a translator to convey complex thoughts.

Wait still? it's been seven months. Did Denuvo really make it that much tougher to mod the game outside of skins?

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I'll buy the next game day one too, motherfucker.

>buggy
>bad camera
>cringeworthy late 90s/early 00s dialog, poor lipsyncing in english
>stages/boss fights provide little real challenge just trial and error of avoiding ridiculous glitches
The physics are just bad. Hitting the edge of some geometric unit (don't know the proper name) can just stop you in your tracks. Also only Sonic's stages (much like SA1) are remotely interesting. Everything else you just kinda endure to get back to Sonic/Shadow

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>DLC not being free
This is literally nothing new. I don't understand why people thought it would be free.
>b-but Forces
They fucked up with disc locked content, that was their fault and the reason it stayed free. Mania was a full game and this is additional content, which doesn't have to but sensibly costs money.

Honestly for the time period it was impressive.
I think another go at the formula will do wonders.

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>Terrible port with large graphical regressions that didn't age well in the slightest, even with fan mods to fix the regressions
>Pretty alright port, but still aged like spoiled milk
>2 years making a redundant lighting engine/1 years actually making the game, and it shows
>Cream of the wii waggle crop
>Gameplay inherently utter shit, but it had nice environments ruined by terrible renderer choices
>Literally only half the game was good
vs.
>Interesting isometric game bogged down by unfun escort mission as the core gameplay mechanic
>Literally the best game in the franchise this millennium
>Arguably either the best game / top two of the best game of the pre-dreamcast games
>A visually interesting mess to play that to this day still hasn't been ported to anything because of how bad it is
If you're going to point fingers at how bad the classics are (so named for a reason) then at least pick some better games to make your point with.

>Replying to reposts made to bait responses
user pls

Probably. But Forces had a much newer version of Denuvo (to the point the game wasn't cracked for months) & once mods did come out, it's been a pretty decent scene.

I think a lot of people are just taking their time with Mania mods, or they're just lazy.

Classicfags: MANIA SEQUELS?! SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD IN 3D

Adventurefags: SONIC ADVENTURE 3 WILL FIX EVERYTHING

Boostfags: duhh...fast? memes lol XD

>trusting Stealth
>the guy that threatened to quit if his husbandos Mighty and Ray weren't the extra characters for Mania
No.

Stealth can go fuck himself.

Collectively kill yourselves /sthg/.

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Bait posts get copy-pasta responses, I don't see a problem with that.

Was this ever confirmed?

I don't think it's Denuvo, I think it's just that editing sprites in GIMP is way easier than actually hacking the game for real and making changes to the gameplay.

Basically you have a lot of people doing the easy type of mods and barely anyone stepping up to the plate to accomplish bigger, more complex mods.

>Interesting isometric game bogged down by unfun escort mission as the core gameplay mechanic
...that actually got a REAL Director's Cut a billion years after release, which everyone loves.
Meanwhile Adventure's mistake of a DX is universally hated.

How many members of the Mania team will rage quit if Taxman and Stealth decide to work on a modern Sonic esque game?

No, because it was a shitpost that people believe because "it sounds like it could happen," when in reality they just wanna come up with something to shitpost about Stealth.

Only person who (supposedly) hates Modern Sonic on the Mania Team is Slingerland. Everyone else seems to have no issues with 3D Sonic. Even Stealth said that he thinks Iizuka gets a bit too much ate.

If they could just push the reset button and got rid of the "modern" incarnation of Sonic and rebranded his old "classic" self permanently things would be better for the series.

Does anyone even appreciate modern Sonic's snarky character or what the cast has devolved to? Unironically?
I'm not even saying get rid of the new gameplay styles, they just need to homogenize his image. What's a brand that has so many confused offshoots of itself? Cute and cool small Sonic sells, clearly. Why are they so afraid of putting modern on the chopping block like Boom?

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I would but I have work tomorrow.

Thunderbolt, Echo and Von Schlemmer didn't deserve the fate they got.

actually replying to the copy pasta

I hope Taxman and Stealth cause drama that gets them fired.

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Barely anyone's replying to copypasta. People are just spamming them in this thread.

He probably knows textbook English

Boost had one good game and 70% of it was garbage. Its gameplay style is a one trick pony.

I prefer Modern Sonic's design.

Great to see that SEGA is gonna kill everything from the past 20 years.
>No more cool characters like Shadow, Silver, and Blaze
>No more serious stories like Adventure
>No more realistic 3D environments and experimental exhilarating gameplay.

So much for moving the series forward. Look forward to the same game every time with no variety because classicucks can't handle change. Mania ruined the series.

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I didn't mean 3D Sonic necessarily. I meant if the team decided to do Sonic Advance Mania (to get around the distribution issues if they couldn't port it)

So I found this in Sonic 06's internal documents (the place where they said Blaze was insecure about her chest size and basically called Silver Trunks). And it's funny how they hint at Sonic having feelings for her yet he spends the whole game with Elise. I don't understand SEGA's logic sometimes.

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>which everyone loves.
user...

classic fags

signs of autism include:
>Repeats words or phrases over and over
self-explanatory

>Gets upset by minor changes in routine or surroundings
classic fags dont want any changes to the classic formula

>Has highly restricted interests
doesnt like anything but classic sonic

>Performs repetitive behaviors
wants to play the same damn game they played from 1991

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haha it's just as funny today

> Blaze was insecure about her chest size
source?
Does Blaze really want some big kitty titties?

>Shadow, Silver, and Blaze
>cool characters
Ahahahahahaha

>experimental exhilarating gameplay
We haven't seen that since possibly Unleashed when Boost was new.
>Lost World
>exhilarating

>shadow cool
Shadow's an autistic dork. Not as big of a dork as Silver, not as much of an autist as Blaze, but would you believe it he gets at least the B rank in both.
Not as cool as CHAD MIGHTY
Was in two games no-one played and people demanded him back.

If you fags are just gonna spam posts over & over, at least take it to /v/

Again, supposedly only one guy has a problem with Modern Sonic on the team. But I doubt anyone's autistic enough to quit a job working on a franchise they've followed & apparently love because he has to work on a game with a design he don't like.

IIRC, it was supposed to be in an old description for her in 06 Japan.

Who the fuck is Slingerland?

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SONICNEXT_allscript feels more like a journey through time and space than the actual game, reads like a shitpost and none of it relates to any of it
Yeah it's kinda sad in a way

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They use the term "performed strongly" to refer to lots of things in their financial reports. It's business speak for "this thing did better compared to last quarter when we didn't release anything." A cheap tactic to appeal to investors.

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One of the level designers of Sonic Mania. He (again supposedly, no real proof brought forth) hates Modern Sonic.

Why should we when we can just shitpost here? Don't like it, then go to /v/ where we aren't shitposting.
A dev on the Mania team.

>tfw you like classic, adventure, boost, spinoffs, ect. while everyone else argues like autists

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Mighty the Armadillo and Ray the Flying Squirrel

Sonic Mania sold on hype like many games nowadays do.

They might be able to squeeze another game or two before they run out of ideas. Franchises need to grow and do different things otherwise they have no staying power.

I enjoy modern and classic. I would prefer they would not have them crossover anymore, but I'm fine with both existing like nintendo does with Mario.
Wouldn't the actual numbers reveal if they were playing with semantics though? It would be illegal to fuck with those right?

Sonic Forces? More like "Don't make more of this!"

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the boys are back in town
don't deserve to be in over amy and metal sonic
stealth is a manchild
my nostalgia
sega's finally listening to fans
etc.

Checks out

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But the Classic games have hacks that add characters with different abilities. Playing as the Chaotix in a game with not-terrible level design is great.

Awwwww yeah.

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Yeah, it's pretty clear that Sonic 06's story was likely not supposed to be the disaster it ended up being. I don't think 06 would've been a 10/10 magnificent game if it was finished, but it had all the potential to be a fun title, if it got the proper time & polish it should've gotten.

Same with Sonic Forces, funny enough.

I'm pretty sure at this point it's just the same few autists circlejerking their shitposts for a whole thread. Just ignore them.

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This is why I was arguing the other day with the notion that Mania should always remain a one-button game. It'd be amazing if Mania 2 or 3 implemented the Advance 3 team mechanic but did it much better with better levels but apparently it's not necessary because good level design is all that's needed to carry a game. At least that's what the user I was arguing with said. But while that might be fine as sequels for hardcore fans, the average gaming public is going to get tired of Mania real quick if it doesn't do something innovative by the third installment.

I don't give a single shit if he hates Modern or not, he designed well for Mania and that's enough for me to like him.

Honestly Sonic Team would be better off just not making Sonic titles in general. It's extreme but I can't trust them to do anything right without fucking it up. At first I thought it was due to over-ambition but now I understand that it's just complete incompetence. They make the whole idea of a good, focused 3d Sonic title seem like this impossible feat while fans with no experience in the industry are making attempts that are closer than anything Sonic Team has done in years. Mania exposed Sonic Team for the frauds they truly are: old, out of touch incompetent developers who have no idea what their fanbase actually wants.

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Mania confirmed for reboot and separate universe.

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Hey, I asked for proof & user gave it.
I don't agree with his opinions about Modern at all, but so long as he doesn't throw a tantrum & quit if the Mania Team were ever given the chance to make a game with Modern sprites, I don't care.

I looked up what Omegadow content I could find on pixiv, and I'll dump the few things I found.

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it would be a shame if that was true because nostalgia aside mania is a fun, well made game. I'll be happy if we can just get a few games before the normies lose interest.

>Fans make the 2D games
>Fans make the 3D games
>Sonic Team makes the spin-offs so they're not out of the job
Seems like a good solution to me.