ITT: wars where the good guys lost

>corporate greed in Israel
Now I'm not necessarily against Jews, but modern day Israel is shit. Album related

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Well i don't know how to phrase this, it subterfuge their main means of appearing insidious?

Album?

>I agree with foreign mandated usurpation of native land and the subsequent dominance and suppression of native borns.

The good guys are the displaced population by an alien power. The guys who had nothing to do with the international incident that gave the Israelis even the weakest of claims to a homeland and were only trying to repel a foreign horde from getting a foothold that would put the entire region in contention for generations to come.

How about you fuck off for good, faggot.

>The good guys are the displaced population by an alien power.
Funny how the Palestinians saw no problem with trying to take over foreign nations themselves. Funny how the Syrians saw no problems with helping them try to do that.

Egypt was a secular socialist country in the 60's and FGM is only in the really dirtpoor black african parts of southern egypt. fucking end yourself, kike

Doesn't justify Israel. Try again.

No, but it means I don't have very much sympathy for the Palestinians now. Their shitty situation after 1967 is all their own doing. They got thrown out of Jordan because they tried to take over the country, they instigated a 30-year-long civil war when they moved into Lebanon, and they aren't let out of any of their refugee camps now because of what happened in the previously named countries.

It sucks for them, but at this point their situation is more their doing than it is Israel's.

>Six-Day War
>involving the Palestinians

How about you think before you post, cunt. Christ, I want /pol/ to leave.

>being this deluded

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Yanqui U.X.O. by Godspeed You! Black Emperor

i agree
the vietnamese, north korean, and chinese fucking shits should've lost

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>rebels supported by the united states AND soviet union
god damn what did the portuguese do to piss off both sides

>what is pan-arabism?
Standing by Israel is standing behind a foreign invader, regardless of the aggressor in following conflicts

I've never even been to your boogeyman /pol/. Attempt proper argument before dismissal based on preconceived allegiances

Israel's establishment is the root of Palestinian displacement and any conflict that follows

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OP here, oops, I meant to say wars where the good guys won

>the Israelis MADE the Palestinians attempt to take over two different foreign countries

>le opressed right wing man lost the cold war!

By ethnically cleansing them from Palestine.

No ethnic cleansing, no second class citizenship in foreign nations, no attempt to gain civil rights and citizenship.

I agree, Ferdinand should have wiped out all of those Proddy fucking shits.

who are you quoting

But they're not ethnically Arabic. Nobody gives a shit about them. It's just politics. You fucking nigger.

Again they were displaced by the Israels establishment. Desperate people do desperate things. How is Israel not universally viewed as villains

I feel for the Jewish people after all the shit they got but persecution does not justify a nation state

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This also doesn't mention PAIGC torturing portuguese soldiers, can't have anyone know we supported that now. At least now Guinea-Bissau is one of the biggest shitholes in Africa.

>Egypt
>good guy

instead of taking the deal to partition palestine between muslims and jews they said fuck you its all our land we war u. Then they lost that war.

So I don't want to hear about oh those poor Palestinians.

You seem to be going quite far out of your way to justify anything the Palestinians have done, as inherently justified because they were displaced. Why do you give them such extreme license?

>persecution does not justify a nation state
that seems to be exactly what you're arguing in the case of the palestinians. If not then what exactly does justify a nation state, and who made you in charge of making that decision?

ge*manboos need to kys themselves

>they get to put a cross in a box every 5 years so your argument is invalid xd
what a faggot you are

This

France came out strong, all is right in the world. Prussia was a mistake though.

>Bunch of Arabs try to bully Jews
>Get hilariously BTFO
>whine about it on an Israeli scroll reading board
Shabat Shalome motherfuckers

> Standing by Israel is standing behind a foreign invader, regardless of the aggressor in following conflicts

How long must they successfully occupy the territory for their claim to be legitimate? Besides the UN bought off on the creation of the state of Israel when it was under their control.

>Arabs
>good guys

Are you, like, in favor of FGM? Or do you literally not believe that they do it?

I want /pol/ to leave and never come back. The lengths you people go to in order to justify your anti-antisemitism is astounding.

Why isn't the Cold War just called World War 3?

back to pol

/pol/ would support Arabs though

>/pol/ doesn't like jews
>/pol/ doesn't like women
>/pol/ doesn't like degeneracy
>/pol/ want to kill all the people who don't think like them
>/pol/ is full of neckbeard
Of fuck! /pol/ is ISIS!

According to EU4, about 100 years

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Russian Civil War

>fuck you greedy Palestinians not wanting to share your rightful clay with a xenophobic people invading your land.

>You seem to be going quite far out of your way to justify anything the Palestinians have done, as inherently justified because they were displaced.

Only because they had this put upon them and are constantly portrayed as the evil group in the scenario. It's their home and now they're living in hollowed out ghettos and constantly made to bend a knee to Israel.

ntm the persecution of the palestinians is grossly hypocritical of Israel given the nature of the founding of the nation.

So is Angola, quite violent today.

>This also doesn't mention PAIGC torturing portuguese soldiers

Who cares? Shit happens in Wars. Portaguese are just retarded in general. Why do they insist on fighting losing battles is beyond me.

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that image. wtf were they thinking?

WW2. Pretty obvious, senpai.

Dictator of Portugal, Salazar, was trying to rope in US and NATO to fight their war for them. He insisted that they fight to the last man in order to help win some kind of sympathy vote that would convince NATO to help, both in India and Africa.

They surrendered to the last man within 48 hours. Salazar cancelled Christmas back in Portugal as a way of mourning.

Egypt's Parliament recently passed a bill making FGM a felony

Plus it was never anywhere near 97% you crypto-Jew

>Why do they insist on fighting losing battles is beyond me.

Because that's how their country came to exist in the first place.

I mean, just look at a map.

Good to see Veeky Forums is continuing its tradition of MS Paint editing webcomics to create strawmen

>Stops at 1912

Pretty much ignores the last century mired in defeats. Portugal is a 90 year old former prize fighter.

They did win the Colonial War, at least militarily in Mozambique and Angola. It was only the communist coup that led to decolonization.

It's part of our heritage.

>Strength: 4,195 soldiers
>Losses: 4,668 POWs

holy fuck my sides

Not all POWs are soldiers.

Probably included administrators and workers.

I know, that's what makes it so funny.

>97%
>Tries to blame it on .01 of the population

>Soviets so angry at the Arabs being shit at war they refused to give them more planes

You do know that the Soviets where the ones that instigated the war? They provoked a hegemonic war in order to increase influence in the region while America was occupied in Vietnam.

They've done it before. Egyptians ignored it.

>never anywhere near

Oh, fuck off with your lies.

Where do you get your false information? My family are Palestinian Jordanians and they move around and out of the country freely. The only discrimination we got was because we were Christians

A guy who think the Arabas was religious zealots in the 60' in Veeky Forums

>criticising Israel
>"huurrr it's antisemitism, pol needs to leave"
Please fuck off, my grandparents were kicked out of their homes and had to walk to Jordan and my other family were either killed or cannot leave the country because off fucking jews. If that makes me an antisemitist than I'm a proud antisemitist

Well there was the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. But yeah they were not in power just becoming influential. But several years later they would assassinate Sadat.

The good guys won the Soviet-Afghan War. They lost the Afghan Civil War that followed.

>people think states need "justification" to exist

How fucking naive do you have to be?

Yeah, but they were so infuriated at how shit the Arabs were that when they begged for more planes and tanks the Soviets gave them the finger

Unless a war with the country that previously owned the province happens, then you get another 100 years for the core to go away.

Fucking Spain just won't give up on Sevilla.

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you can get them to renounce their claim in the peace deal

>Israel will be obliterated in your lifetime

Can't wait desu

The major lesson of the Six Day War is that initiative, surprise, and operational tempo count for a hell of a lot in modern warfare. The other thing is that crew training and aggressiveness matters a whole lot - the Israeli military was far.

As a way of another example the Arab coalition achieved near total surprise in the following Yom Kippur War but their advance was checked by aggressive Israeli counterattacks that actually saw them lose even more territory than they started with.

>being a Nodfag

If Israel goes down they launch all their nukes against Muslims.

*crew training matters a whole lot, the Israeli military was far more competent on the whole than the Arab ones, especially in crucial areas like the initiative of junior field officers and the expertise of their pilots.

Part of this can potentially be attributed to the fact that most Arab dictatorships maintain militaries as a means of control over domestic populations - Israel's military on the other hand is considerably more motivated by the possibility of being completely annihilated by their neighbours.

So no, subterfuge is not the only way the Israelis can win - they won Yom Kippur even when fighting on the back foot.

>fuck you greedy Palestinians not wanting to share your rightful clay with a xenophobic people invading your land.
more like
>large populations of jews and muslims in palestine
>UN offers a partition plan to share the land between both sides
>reject it saying this land entirely belongs to you
>fight a war over it
>lose everything
>complain about how unfair this is

Once the figure out an easy way to stop nuclear strikes it's gonna be an interesting day

>lmao he proved me wrong
>DONT JUSTIFY THAT REEEEEEEE TRIGGERED

>Jews account for less than 10 percent of the population
> give 75% of land to Jews and make majority second class citizens
This shit could be figured out in a Google search, do the bare minimum before you comment

>proved him wrong
Back to school kiddo

And now they knife pregnant women and expect us to have a bit of sympathy when they magdumped.
Fuck off.

>Boiling a complex situation spanning 70 years down to individual morality in a time of war and stuggle
Please fuck off, and don't provide an argument a fifth grader can come up with. What about the millions off displaced and thousands of killed Palestinians?

>Jews account for less than 10% of the population
from the UN Special Committe on Palestine's report in 1946 the population of palestine was
>muslims - 1,076,783
>jews - 608,225
source: unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

as for giving 75% of the land to the jews look at the pic, does that look like 75% of the land to you? Because I see the jews getting a huge desert in the south and a couple thin strips of land that could be easily cut off, they don't get access to any of their holy sites either.

>and make the majority second class citizens
no one was going to be made second class citizens, the muslim palestinians were getting their own state you see.

This shit could be figured out in a Google search, do the bare minimum before you comment

>What about the millions off displaced and thousands of killed Palestinians?
If they wanted sympathy from the international community they should try not commiting terrorist attacks.

kek

You're Jordanian, you know about Black September.
>but that was the PLO not Palestinians
The PLO was largely accepted to be the Palestinian government-o\in-exile for decades.

The Palestinians deserved to lose the land for the same reason the native Americans did.

They were inferior, barbarian people up against an actual civilization.

You can moralize it all you want, you have the luxury to do that, because your ancestors went out and conquered you some land.