Alright, Veeky Forums. I've had it with this John Green meme. Everyday I come to this slow moving board and everyday I see shitposting lambasting this man and his youtube history shows as ahistorical revisionist cuckery, but I NEVER see any evidence for it.
What is it that John Green has gotten wrong? Where in any of his HISOTRY shows, vlogs, or books has he ever perpetuated any historical myth or misconeption? And provide evidence! Don't just say he did something or that you heard from a friend of a friend--evidence,pls.
Idk but my buddy said he terribly misrepresented Julius Caesar.
Cooper Cruz
evidence
Carter Walker
Well, what did he get wrong about history?
Anthony Powell
Fuck off, John.
Everything.
Brandon Evans
His Alexander the Great video is all anyone ever needs to see to get the gist of the problems with his Crash Course History series.
Nathan Walker
He dismisses often relevant evidence and events in favor of:
-DER THE MUSLIMS WERE GREAT -DER THE BLACKS DID EVERYTHING -WHITE PEOPLE HAVNT DONE ANYTHING GOOD
Justin James
>Russia episode >nearly every date is wrong >says only the Mongols successfully invaded Russia despite several countries doing it successfully He's a retarded hack
Aiden Martin
Got a link
Luis Walker
>Holocaust / black slavery / any atrocity committed by whites Truly one of the most heinous crimes in human history, nobody should ever, E-V-E-R joke about these things, it's no laughing matter. And you're a shit human being for not taking it seriously.
>Mongols / Ottomans / literally any non-white oppressors lol look they built a pyramid made out of FUCKING SKULLS, isn't that awesome and badass? Totally metal! And this guy Genghis Khan slaughtered everyone who refused to become his subject, this guy sure didn't fuck around! Just awesome!
Hi, are those direct quotes or just the John Green meme OP refers to?
Jackson Gomez
Can't get past the first minute. He talks about kim Kardashian in a video about Alexander the great
Robert Gonzalez
I feel that this reflects a "progressive" view of history where people in later periods should know better than to commit immoral acts, when inhumanity and greed is nothing new and will exist long after all of our bones are dust.
Bentley Jenkins
He inserts his opinion into every single video and he makes it really blatant. I gave him a chance honestly but his video about the rise of conservatism as an ideology in the U.S. (something I've studied for quite some time) was so fucking wrong it was unreal. The whole video he pushes the big switch meme but doesn't recognize any facts about how the two major parties in the U.S. had barely any politicians switch sides. He also claims that the reason for the South switching to the Republicans in the 1968 election was because Nixon appealed to racism but he doesn't even mention the fact that the deep south went entirely to George Wallace in that election who was running in an independent party as a Dixiecrat.
He's an ideologue, nothing more.
William Fisher
I said evidence. What exactly in the Alexander the Great video is ahistroical or a misconception?
Please, /pol/historian. What ahistroical fact or misconception has he perpetuated about Muslims, blacks, whites, and show me where he said it. Don't just say he said it, point me to what is wrong and back it up with quotations. This isn't elementary school, unless you are in elementary school? Then, mods pls ban.
Quotations and evidence to counter his assertions please.
In the following video youtube.com/watch?v=szxPar0BcMo , John around 6:40 talks about the atrocities of the Mogols, commenting that they were so brutal that people would often surrender to them rather than be completely slaughtered. From 9:05 onwards he criticizes the Mogols even more.
He ironically lauds the Mongols as awesome, but is sober about the incredibly inhuman warriors they were. He doesn't somehow elevate the Mongols over the Nazis or Europeans who owned slaves.
In his crash course WWII video, he's fairly unbiased juxtaposing the deaths in the holocaust with the civilian deaths caused by Britain, Soviet Union, Japan, etc. youtube.com/watch?v=Q78COTwT7nE
But aside from bias perceived bias, what ahistorical facts or popular misconceptions does he specifically perpetuate about the Holocaust, black slavery, mongols, ottomans, etc?
This is the video, but please point out specifically what is wrong and qoute him.
Cooper Ramirez
>He ironically lauds the Mongols as awesome You don't see him do the same when it comes to nazis or British imperialists though.
Benjamin Ross
>THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS What a completely unbiased person. He also claimed he was a Marxist during college studies so there's that.
Joshua Murphy
Listen, the thread is about ahistorical facts and popular misconceptions, but so what if he doesn't laud the Nazis or British Imperialists? The Mongols are a meme that run through his series and people clearly understand his intentions. He focuses on the aspects of the Mongols that had the greatest impact on history and celebrates some good aspects which he believes are beneficial to modern civilization.
He also points out the good and the bad of German and British history. How much of a difference would it make for the quality of his work, if he were to make a running joke out of ironically celebrating the Nazis as awesome?
Daniel Reyes
That's not a ahistorical fact or popular misconception. And being bias towards something doesn't necessarily mean your wrong either.
As far as being a Marxist, which I'm not sure where you got that, what does it matter for the topic of this thread? Peter Hitchens was a trotskyist and is now a conservative? Does that delegitimize Peter Hitchens?
Christian Diaz
>I'm not sure where you got that His videos.
Camden Foster
In this video he says the reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor was to scare to U.S. from joining the war.
>can't even circle the right guy even when he says that he's a farmer fuck off john green
Alexander Thompson
>mongols conquered russia This is incorrect. The mongols subjugated the Kievan Rus and forced some of them into a tributary system, whilst only conquering some. The Kievan Rus != Russia
Video is supposedly about vikings. Ends up exclusively talking about NORSE adventurers instead.
Did not talk about >anything which went on around the Baltic Sea >the vikings from the east coast of Baltics after Scandinavian kingdoms were made Catholic >"Land of Lake Cities" >vikings before the "Viking Era"
And I suspect that if he talked about those things, he would have probably made the normie mistake of "viking == norse".
Kayden Wilson
You lazy fuck.You want people to tell you the EXACT moment in his videos he gets dates, facts and other concepts wrong? Pathetic. People have obviously seen them, remember what he got wrong and are telling you. Instead of expecting them to REWATCH the videos watch it yourself.
Aaron Reyes
He describes the Haitian Revolution as a noble, inspiring example of a slave uprising against exploitative system. He neglects to mention that, upon casting off French Rule, the revolutionaries proceeded to commit genocide against the white population.
Leo Perez
>mistake of "viking == norse" >makes a video about vikings >doesn't talk about norse in general >actually talks about vikings instead Your post is all over the place, user.
Michael Morales
It was to cripple the U.S response in the Pacific to Japan's expansion in addition as a total 'fuck you' for cutting off the Japanese Oil Supply when the USA was perfectly fine with selling it to them during their entire Manchurian Invasion and Polynesian conquests.
Josiah Garcia
I would like him to tell us who the non norse vikings are
Hudson Kelly
Literally the only good thing about this video is his entrance at the start. After the first couple of seconds it's nothing but pure trash.
